Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-dev] [Tagging] Super-relations or not

2010-11-02 Thread Matthias Julius
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:02:37 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Peter Budny wrote: >> As far as I'm concerned, the difference in what's required to tag things >> is minimal between these concerns.  Therefore, wouldn't it make the most >> sense to choose whichever

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-12 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski writes: > On 9 April 2010 15:30, Matthias Julius wrote: >> Val Kartchner writes: >> >>> 3) Prefix, body, suffix is available from the TIGER data, but what about >>> streets that have already been added (or corrected) by users?  As we'v

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski writes: > On 9 April 2010 15:06, Matthias Julius wrote: >> Val Kartchner writes: >> >>> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 12:23 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: >>>> i don't think anyone would argue with this. it's why having a bot >>>&g

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Val Kartchner writes: > 3) Prefix, body, suffix is available from the TIGER data, but what about > streets that have already been added (or corrected) by users? As we've > seen, a bot won't always be able to correctly make these separations (as > in the example of "Southbay" vs. "South Bay" give

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Val Kartchner writes: > On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 12:23 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: >> i don't think anyone would argue with this. it's why having a bot >> rampage through >> "fixing" things is probably a Real Bad Idea unless it's extremely well >> thought out >> and comprehensively tested beforeha

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski writes: > Hi, > > On 7 April 2010 07:36, Val Kartchner wrote: >> The "Editing Standards and >> Conventions" >> ("http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions";) >> page says: "In the name tag, enter the full name as it appears on the street >> name s

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Jeffrey Ollie writes: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Matthias Julius wrote: >> Jeffrey Ollie writes: >> >>> What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs.   From >>> what I understand the ref is supposed to be only the >>> inters

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying InterstateRelations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
"Mike N." writes: >> Second, separating out the highway system requires the data consuming >> application to know how to piece things back together. Otherwise, a >> shield on a map for example with just a "25" in it is pretty limited in >> use. > > After / if a generalized shield solution is i

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Jeffrey Ollie writes: > What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs. From > what I understand the ref is supposed to be only the > interstate/highway number (e.g. "90" or "80") and not "I 90 (MN)". And I don't like this at all. First, this seems to be different than how this is

Re: [Talk-us] US highway tagging and relations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Jeff Barlow writes: > Shows how? This is not obvious to me. Are there examples > somewhere? If they are not connected then are we supposed to move > them around till they are? If so how does one guess where they > are supposed to go? There is a sort button in the relation editor (the fifth from

Re: [Talk-us] Use of highway=tertiary

2010-01-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Greg Troxel writes: > Stellan Lagerstrom writes: > >> We have a user (mk408) who seems intent on turning 3/4 of all >> residential streets in the bay area into tertiary. >> This seems excessive to me. Most of these are just residential streets, >> not thoroughfares, etc. >> Views? >> Here's one

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import

2009-12-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Paul Johnson writes: > Nobody uses the ZIP codes except the post office. Truckers > certainly don't use 'em, it's easier to look up the state, city, and > street in that order. Many businesses offer to search for local branches by ZIP code. Businesses calculate shipping costs based on your ZIP

Re: [Talk-us] Marking closed bridges

2009-12-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Richard Welty writes: > On 12/3/09 11:27 PM, Richard Welty wrote: >> On 12/3/09 11:00 PM, David Fawcett wrote: >> >>> I agree that it would be good to have a standard answer. I am >>> thinking that the tag should be used for both symbology and >>> connectivity. >>> >>> >>> >> i'm going

Re: [Talk-us] What's causing rendering artifacts in the Southeast?

2009-11-27 Thread Matthias Julius
"David ``Smith''" writes: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Dale Puch wrote: >> It sounds like t...@home needs to trim data at the tile border, and then >> close open ways along the border of the tile... >> Just my uneducated opinion. > > Let's say you have a tile with two ways crossing it, and

Re: [Talk-us] What's causing rendering artifacts in the Southeast?

2009-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
Dale Puch writes: > Oops I spoke too soon. There is a relation. > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/304245 > I still think this is the probable source of the problem though. Perhaps > someone with more experience with relations could take a look? I don't know all the details in how

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-18 Thread Matthias Julius
Dave Hansen writes: > On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:24 -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: >> IMHO it is unfortunate this was not >> done during the TIGER import. It would have been easy enough. > > Sure. But, there were 50 other things that were "easy enough" to do. > J

Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Greg Williamson writes: > Just out of curiosity, how do our European companeros deal with things > like "2-Bis" ? Most of the addresses I have seen in the US with > letters tend to be campuses and business parks as opposed to street > addresses. > > A legit address in France -- #2 rear would be m

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
David Lynch writes: > Agreed. I can understand not wanting to abbreviate words that don't > have a standard abbreviation, but the USPS is the de-facto arbiter of > how addresses (and therefore street names) are written in the United > States, and they have a well-defined list of which words are >

Re: [Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

2009-11-14 Thread Matthias Julius
"Randy" writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: > >>"Randy" writes: >> >>>Dale Puch wrote: >>> >>>Would it be improper to tag the true Wal-Mart services to the building >>>way, (either using semicolons or "shop_n" and

Re: [Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

2009-11-13 Thread Matthias Julius
"Randy" writes: > Dale Puch wrote: > >>For the same reason as doing nodes at a mall or similar. To know the >>stores/services available, not just the type of stuff that is usually >>there. >> >>If your tagging fast food, why would you not tag the McDonalds in the super >>walmart as well? Or th

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest Boundaries

2009-02-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Karl Newman writes: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Theodore Book wrote: > >> I have put the various proposals on the wiki at: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Forest_Service_Data >> >> It seems like the landuse=forest tag has a fair amount of consensus, but >> that we are not yet sur

Re: [Talk-us] Tiger 2007 Data

2008-10-24 Thread Matthias Julius
Russ Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ian Dees writes: > > I don't agree. If the "reviewed" flag was changed to yes without any change > > to the imported data, then that means the new TIGER data will be better > than > > the old ("reviewed") data. > > Or worse. Different != improved. Th

Re: [Talk-us] Tiger 2007 Data

2008-10-20 Thread Matthias Julius
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 11:33 -0700, Alan Brown wrote: >> > Then, decide how if/when it is appropriate to write over the old >> TIGER >> > stuff with new. Or, to merge it somehow. >> >> Be very, very careful here. >> >> Conflation is a difficult thing. I

Re: [Talk-us] US GPS Set for Mapping Parties

2008-09-26 Thread Matthias Julius
Etienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think you need to spell out what's in it for Garmin. Something like: > "A significant number of new users at mapping parties will go on to be > regular OpenStreetMap contributors. They will want to purchase their own > GPS receiver and if they have learned

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-ca] Great Lakes - coastlines / lakes

2008-04-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Jason Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SteveC wrote: >> The great lakes are missing off the map! >> >> Anyone here able to import them or something magically? If not I'll >> turn over to the dev/talk list but I thought people here might be >> interested themselves :-) > > They show up on osm