Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Chris Hunter
Oh, and $5/disk to burn it to DVD On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Chris Hunter wrote: > Sensible government policy? When did that happen? My local county wants > $10,680.00 for the political GIS data, and it's got a non-redistributable, > non-commercial license on top of that. Aah - my tax d

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Chris Hunter
Sensible government policy? When did that happen? My local county wants $10,680.00 for the political GIS data, and it's got a non-redistributable, non-commercial license on top of that. Aah - my tax dollars at play. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Don't try to cast you

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > >> >> On 16 Nov 2009, at 7:14 , Anthony wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Andy Allan wrote: I'd love to know which map has an accurate pedestrian routing network that is collected as such a

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Dave Hansen wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote: >> So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in >> charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much, >> much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker. > > I think

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > > On 16 Nov 2009, at 7:14 , Anthony wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Andy Allan wrote: >>> I'd love to know which map has an >>> accurate pedestrian routing network that is collected as such and not >>> a derived interpretation of other base maps. >> >>

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Russ Nelson
Andy Allan writes: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > should I waste my time, as you folks in the UK have **been forced** to > > waste your time reinventing an existing map? > > Sorry, which map have we reinvented? If OSM is better than OS, then you've reinvented it -

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote: > So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in > charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much, > much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker. I think TIGER was a success if only

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Nov 2009, at 7:05 , Andy Allan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: >> Andy Allan writes: >> > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: >> > >> > > There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that >> > > like to grumble about TIGER, but I haven't hear

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Nov 2009, at 7:14 , Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Andy Allan wrote: >> I'd love to know which map has an >> accurate pedestrian routing network that is collected as such and not >> a derived interpretation of other base maps. > > C'mon, this is the United States. A b

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Joseph Booker
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:14:37 -0500 Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Andy Allan > wrote: > > I'd love to know which map has an > > accurate pedestrian routing network that is collected as such and > > not a derived interpretation of other base maps. > > C'mon, this is the United

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Andy Allan wrote: > I'd love to know which map has an > accurate pedestrian routing network that is collected as such and not > a derived interpretation of other base maps. C'mon, this is the United States. A blank map is an accurate pedestrian routing network.

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Russ Nelson
Andy Allan writes: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: > > > There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that > > like to grumble about TIGER, but I haven't heard a single person say > > that it did more harm than good. > > It did more harm than good. No, it didn't. I d

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/11/16 Andy Allan > > Yes. Please don't include "this point is within such-and-such a > polygon" data onto the point itself, it's redundant information and > not helpful. When a county border is changed by legislation, then > moving the border of the county should be sufficient for a mapper.

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-15 Thread SteveC
On Nov 14, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Dave Hansen wrote: >> What really needs to be done for TIGER addresses import is match the >> streets from TIGER to those in OSM (which should be easy since they >> all still have the TIGER id's) and generate the address geometry based >> on these. Otherwise someone

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 21:35 -0500, Anthony wrote: > Unless you can point me to some documentation as to what the tiger id > *means* (*), I'm not going to think about it at all. Sometimes I keep > it, sometimes I delete it, sometimes I delete the whole way and create > a new one in its place (witho

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dale Puch
What I know of it is the tiger ID came from the ID of each unique item in the tiger DB. A road segment that had an address range was one, the next address range was another ID. Basically each intersection to intersection. All well and good except in OSM those would all be septate ways, so they we

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > I agree with > Anthony that these tags are useless *except* this one tag, the Id *is* > useful, please don't remove it. What's useful about it? Or to ask the question a different way, what is the tag supposed to mean? On Sat, Nov 14,

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 14 Nov 2009, at 18:05 , andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/11/15 Apollinaris Schoell : >> matching Tiger id's is a very bad idea. you need to compare >> geometries. >> during edits ways are split, merged copied moved, deleted nodes >> added node, > > Most of these operations are not a proble

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
> > What really needs to be done for TIGER addresses import is match the > streets from TIGER to those in OSM (which should be easy since they > all still have the TIGER id's) and generate the address geometry based > on these. Otherwise someone will need to do all of the geometry > corrections th

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Russ Nelson
> no one is interested to cleanup crap after a bad import. No one is writing this email. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:49 +0100, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > > In San Francisco, for divided highways the old TIGER data used to > bow in to a point every block and we had, I think, automated ways to > split those out in to two straight lines. This is reflected with > little bows on the address l

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread SteveC
On Nov 14, 2009, at 5:49 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > Hi, > > 2009/11/14 SteveC : >> In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on >> north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just >> search for all the ways that make up the addressing o

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Mike N.
> You gotta have the addr:street information somewhere. Oops! Yes, that should be the minimum required. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Mike N. wrote: >> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py > >> We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some >> people have some plans on how to get these integrated a bit at a time. > >   Thanks

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Mike N.
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py > We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some > people have some plans on how to get these integrated a bit at a time. Thanks to those who worked on the namefinder - it worked GREA