* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2012-04-11 17:33 -0700]:
On Apr 11, 2012 11:48 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
From what I've read, all US highways in California should get similar
treatment, in that they're signed with different shields than the standard
ones. Are there other
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2012-04-11 17:33 -0700]:
On Apr 11, 2012 11:48 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
From what I've read, all US highways in California should get similar
treatment, in that they're
* Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.com [2012-04-08 07:07 -0700]:
Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com:
It seems to me that network=US:US:Business:MD is the logical extension of
a scheme that has US:US and US:US:Business.
My initial reaction is that this goes too far in mixing geographic,
On Apr 11, 2012 11:48 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
From what I've read, all US highways in California should get similar
treatment, in that they're signed with different shields than the standard
ones. Are there other regional sign variants for broader road networks in
the US (or
On Apr 4, 2012 12:29 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:43 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
Renderers can fallback to the longest
left-anchored substring they understand for weird things they don't
understand.
Bad idea. Google Maps does something like this and it
Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com:
It seems to me that network=US:US:Business:MD is the logical extension of
a scheme that has US:US and US:US:Business.
My initial reaction is that this goes too far in mixing geographic,
classification, and rendering concepts, which has a bad smell:
* It forces one
Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com:
modifier=* would represent MUTCD-type banners attached to the shield
This is the first I've heard of this tag. I don't recall it being
discussed when we were hashing ideas around on this last summer. (Not
that that is reason to discount it.)
But what came out
On 4/8/2012 10:27 AM, Craig Hinners wrote:
Chris Lawrencelordsu...@gmail.com:
modifier=* would represent MUTCD-type banners attached to the shield
This is the first I've heard of this tag. I don't recall it being
discussed when we were hashing ideas around on this last summer. (Not
that that
On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 4/8/2012 10:27 AM, Craig Hinners wrote:
Chris Lawrencelordsu...@gmail.com:
modifier=* would represent MUTCD-type banners attached to the shield
This is the first I've heard of this tag. I don't recall it being
discussed when we were
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote:
After more thought, in the general case, deprecating modifier and just
using network to denote variations using the established : separator
convention is probably sanest.
Well, that kind of breaks the whole network
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2012-04-04 14:01 -0700]:
OK, I'll bite. How is putting banners in the network tag
preferential? why not something like...
network=US:TX:FM
modifier=Business
network=US:US
modifier=Business
is_in=Maryland
Each of the potential tagging schemes had
I think it's clear from this discussion that we *don't* have any
consensus on how best to tag relations for bannered routes.
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On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it's clear from this discussion that we *don't* have any consensus
on how best to tag relations for bannered routes.
... yet. Hence why it's important to have the discussion.
After more thought, in the general
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
It seems that many people see the network tag as not representing a
network but a shield design. Does this sound accurate?
No, because, where shield designs differ by agency for the same logical
network classification, the network tag does not change,
On 4/4/2012 12:14 PM, Craig Hinners wrote:
Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
It seems that many people see the network tag as not representing a
network but a shield design. Does this sound accurate?
No, because, where shield designs differ by agency for the same logical
network
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/4/2012 12:14 PM, Craig Hinners wrote:
Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
It seems that many people see the network tag as not representing a
network but a shield design. Does this sound accurate?
No, because, where shield designs differ
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/4/2012 12:14 PM, Craig Hinners wrote:
Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
It seems that many people see the network tag as not representing a
network but a shield design. Does this sound accurate?
No,
On 4/4/2012 1:05 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
By analogy, you could map a business by placing a node: amenity=fuel.
Or by tracing a building=yes, amenity=fuel. Same thing: you want a
generic lozenge shield? ref=123 You want a right, clustered shield?
network=US:US:Business:MD, ref=123
And you'd
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
And you'd specify the type of fuel using a different tag, not
amenity=fuel:diesel.
name= would be a separate tag, so would fuel. Don't choke on the
bones. Enjoy the chicken.
On 4/4/2012 1:38 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
And you'd specify the type of fuel using a different tag, not
amenity=fuel:diesel.
name= would be a separate tag, so would fuel.
Indeed. How this is a valid analogy for
* Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2012-04-04 11:54 -0400]:
It seems that many people see the network tag as not representing a
network but a shield design. Does this sound accurate?
That matches my sense of what people have said about the tagging. I've
been thinking of them in terms of
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
* Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.com [2012-04-04 09:14 -0700]:
One of many examples: Maryland uses a unique green-on-white shield for
US Business routes, but those roads still get tagged as
network=US:US:Business, not
On 4/4/2012 2:43 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
Renderers can fallback to the longest
left-anchored substring they understand for weird things they don't
understand.
Bad idea. Google Maps does something like this and it results in
'bannered' routes appearing without banners.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:43 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
Renderers can fallback to the longest
left-anchored substring they understand for weird things they don't
understand.
Bad idea. Google Maps does something like this and it
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote:
Meh. I was mostly referring to weird stuff like US:TX:FM:Business or
US:US:Business:MD. To me, US:US:Business:MD falling back on
US:US:Business is fine. Tagwatch processes should catch common cases
like
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