Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-21 Thread Phil! Gold
* Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com [2010-06-18 14:19 -0700]: yes it makes sense to support relations here. in general tags on relations are used to push them onto all members. I think this is done already during db import. mapnik will never see a relation itself. Not exactly. osm2pgsql

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-17 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Jun 2010, at 21:26 , Zeke Farwell wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i think the rendered pseudo-shields probably need to show some reference to the network the highway is in, otherwise you'd not know what kind of shield you're

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-17 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.comwrote: mentioned earlier already. the ref tag is taken by a standardization in osm worldwide. sure osm is free and everyone is allowed to change things but then don't expect to get any useful rendering anywhere. it

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-17 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: You know that nat and int are short for national and international, right? Yup. If they are needed for something else then those tags can be avoided and a new one could be created (us_ref?). It just seems better to

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mind posting your standard for discussion and then we should discuss and agree on something easy to map and easy to ise by rendering, Garmin maps, other navi systems and update the wiki. Changing existing

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/16/10 1:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mind posting your standard for discussion and then we should discuss and agree on something easy to map and easy to ise by rendering, Garmin maps, other

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: 7 instead of US 7, NY 7, (7), etc. Yes. Thank You. I've never liked putting network prefixes in the ref tag. The reference number for United States Highway 7 is simply 7 not US 7. No one calls it US 7 either.

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/16/10 11:51 PM, Zeke Farwell wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: 7 instead of US 7, NY 7, (7), etc. Yes. Thank You. I've never liked putting network prefixes in the ref tag. The reference number for

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i think the rendered pseudo-shields probably need to show some reference to the network the highway is in, otherwise you'd not know what kind

[Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread Phil! Gold
I started experimenting with rendering route shields the other day, and I figured it would be nice to use route relations as my source. The wiki says that the ref= tag on a relation should not include the network identifier[0], which makes sense, since there's a separate network tag. When I

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: I started experimenting with rendering route shields the other day, and I figured it would be nice to use route relations as my source. The wiki says that the ref= tag on a relation should not include the network

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread Nathan Edgars II
(sorry about the dupe - forgot to reply to all) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: How consistent are the US route relations? Should the relations with network information in the

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread David ``Smith''
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: I started experimenting with rendering route shields the other day, and I figured it would be nice to use route relations as my source.  The wiki says that the ref= tag on a relation should not include the network

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: In Ohio: * Route relation tagging consistently is as described by the wiki (with the exception of no clear agreement between network=US and network=US:US) * Interstate route relations offer nearly complete coverage *

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: In Ohio: * Route relation tagging consistently is as described by the wiki (with the exception of no clear agreement between network=US

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread vidthekid
On Jun 15, 2010 9:02pm, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Actually all mainline (unbannered) US Route relations are complete It's been a while since I've done a lot of route relation work, so I haven't really seen the progress reports on the wiki. Plus, I think whoever did much of

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:09 PM, vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010 9:02pm, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Actually all mainline (unbannered) U.S. Route relations are complete It's been a while since I've done a lot of route relation work, so I haven't really seen the