Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-02-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Natfoot natf...@gmail.com wrote: The inherent problem with ferry routes is that they have a schedule. Routers can't then tell their users how long it is going to take without that

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Natfoot
The inherent problem with ferry routes is that they have a schedule. Routers can't then tell their users how long it is going to take without that data. As far as I know we don't have schedule capability within OSM and it is something that the routers have not pulled not even the big G. The big G

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Harald Kliems
Graphhopper doesn't have the problem. It could be that other routers are using outdated data that did indeed have a tagging problem. https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=47.811656%2C-122.379627point=47.809696%2C-122.528286layer=Lyrk Harald. On Thu Jan 01 2015 at 10:20:45 AM Clifford Snow

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 1:55 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Natfoot natf...@gmail.com mailto:natf...@gmail.com wrote: The inherent problem with ferry routes is that they have a schedule. Routers can't then tell their users how long it is going to take without that

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 12:13 PM, Harald Kliems wrote: Graphhopper doesn't have the problem. It could be that other routers are using outdated data that did indeed have a tagging problem. https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=47.811656%2C-122.379627point=47.809696%2C-122.528286layer=Lyrk in the long run, we

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Natfoot natf...@gmail.com wrote: The inherent problem with ferry routes is that they have a schedule. Routers can't then tell their users how long it is going to take without that data. As far as I know we don't have schedule capability within OSM and it is

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Natfoot natf...@gmail.com wrote: When talking to the Scout team this summer it was mentioned as an issue. Also Scout wont route across access roads and if there is an access road leading up to the dock/portal then no route. you will notice that it is listed

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
GTFS works fine for ferries already. Many do publish the data. d. On Jan 1, 2015, at 10:55, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I agree. However, it would be nice to have it show the route. Somehow we can route via bus using GTFS. I wonder if ferry routes have a similar spec?

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: GTFS works fine for ferries already. Many do publish the data. I just checked, Washington State Ferries does use GTFS [1]. I originally posted this message because of a Scout note in OSM. My sense is the problem is

[Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Clifford Snow
A Scout note, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/294192 complains of routing problems when a ferry is required. A user of the OSM-based Scout app reported the following possible map error: will not use ferry route. avoid ferry not checked. Is that a problem limited to Scout, or is there something

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 1:39 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: A Scout note, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/294192 complains of routing problems when a ferry is required. A user of the OSM-based Scout app reported the following possible map error: will not use ferry route. avoid ferry not checked. Is that a

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Natfoot
Clifford, When talking to the Scout team this summer it was mentioned as an issue. Also Scout wont route across access roads and if there is an access road leading up to the dock/portal then no route. you will notice that it is listed as primary road in Edmonds and Kingston. Nathan P On Wed,