Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve All wrote: Now, when and how will this bot run? Over the entire planet.osm? In something like one-degree of latitude at a time swaths? (That's just a guess). Can you sense my frustration when I feel like I should be able to just go and find these things out (maybe in a big,

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-07 Thread Mike N
On 6/6/2012 4:12 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Without some object IDs it is hard to say exactly what blars did. If you have some specific examples, select them in JOSM and hit CTRL-SHIFT-I to open a browser window with a link you can send to the list. A lot of what I saw in LA looked like legitimate

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-06 Thread Steve All
On 5 June 2012 20:56, stevea steveaOSM at softworkers.com wrote: But socially, or more properly stated, in the context of reaching OSM consensus, what does our community think of (rather wholesale) reverts of a contributor who has not agreed to the CT? Are we OK with that? Apologies

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-06 Thread stevea
On 6/5/2012 3:42 PM, Mike N wrote: On 6/5/2012 2:56 PM, stevea wrote: But socially, or more properly stated, in the context of reaching OSM consensus, what does our community think of (rather wholesale) reverts of a contributor who has not agreed to the CT? Are we OK with that? This

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-06 Thread Toby Murray
I kind of doubt reverting changesets would work out very well. Reverting a changeset becomes more difficult as time goes on and things in that changeset are touched by other users. Then you get into conflicts and other odd situations that are hard to handle. I did some remapping in LA from TIGER

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-06 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 6 June 2012 09:07, Steve All steve...@softworkers.com wrote:  andrzej replied:  Is it a pressing issue though?  Mike N already said this, but the  license redaction algorithm is being designed to do no more damage  than a revert of the tainted edits, with the exception of undeletions  

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread stevea
I have been working on the LA remap, which mostly involves correcting thousands and thousands of edits by a user named blars. The odd thing about the edits that blars did is that they seem to have been done almost robotically. Although many intersections have been changed enough to be marked

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 6/5/2012 3:42 PM, Mike N wrote: On 6/5/2012 2:56 PM, stevea wrote: But socially, or more properly stated, in the context of reaching OSM consensus, what does our community think of (rather wholesale) reverts of a contributor who has not agreed to the CT? Are we OK with that? This nearly

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Steve, Thanks for your thoughts, and I hope others in the community will share their views. My view would be that it should be OK to do such a reverse if the person has not signed the new license, particularly when there has been such an enormous number of questionable edits.

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread stevea
Given the earlier statements regarding alignment, etc, of the road vectors, and the seemingly large amount of work to revert these changes, perhaps an incremental replacement of road geometry with TIGER 2011 data along with manual conflation of existing attributes is a more effective

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread stevea
It seems we are speaking on many levels here. NE2 talks of a redaction bot: powerful scripting so intelligent it is not quite yet built (scripting coupled with lack of consensus isn't power). Charlotte, a seriously dedicated user, wants to reduce skull-aching editing, clearly seeing a

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Perhaps some who know JOSM could take a look at the most recent uploads by blars to see what the effect of reverting those changes would be. At 07:36 PM 6/5/2012, you wrote: It seems we are speaking on many levels here. NE2 talks of a redaction bot: powerful scripting so intelligent it

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-05 Thread Werner Poppele
Charlotte Wolter wrote: Perhaps some who know JOSM could take a look at the most recent uploads by blars to see what the effect of reverting those changes would be. At 07:36 PM 6/5/2012, you wrote: It seems we are speaking on many levels here. NE2 talks of a redaction bot: powerful