Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-26 Thread Alex Barth
Inspired by this discussion, I've written up a blog post on why we at the OSM-US chapter love calling editathons: http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/why-editathons/ Like I mentioned before, I think they're a great tool to create an excuse or an impulse for people around the US to get together in

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-21 Thread Michal Migurski
On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: The local dimension of OpenStreetMap was exactly why OSM US decided to do #editathons. There's one happening this weekend, join us.

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: We had excellent turnout yesterday in San Francisco with almost 20 people in Code for America's Ben Franklin room. We got a lot of newcomers who had attended the June SOTM and were interested in contributing, a near 50/50

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Hi Clifford, Wow--thanks for sharing those stats! They are really interesting! I just took a look at the link you shared and it looks like we're seeing the number of mappers contributing on any given day. Do you know if it's possible to find the number of mappers contributing in a week or even

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I think that a goal of increasing active mappers is really smart-- perhaps we could set annual or quarterly targets for ourselves? Tracking and publicizing the data monthly should be step 1.

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: This doesn't have to wait for funding, or permission! There are hundreds of OpenStreetMap ambassadors reading this list, right now. Are you saying that you are satisfied with the number of active US mappers? Really?

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Alex Barth
+1 to just get going in your city or in your community. Let nothing stop you. The local dimension of OpenStreetMap was exactly why OSM US decided to do #editathons. There's one happening this weekend, join us. http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/july-summer-editathon/ Well I've been promoting this

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: [ ... ] As I envision an OSM Ambassador program, the goals would be similar to Fedora[1], Organize OSM participation at events Demonstrate OSM to the public Promote OSM at local events with talks, handouts and

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Simon Poole
Am 19.07.2013 12:06, schrieb Kathleen Danielson: Hi Clifford, Wow--thanks for sharing those stats! They are really interesting! I just took a look at the link you shared and it looks like we're seeing the number of mappers contributing on any given day. Do you know if it's possible to

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: The local dimension of OpenStreetMap was exactly why OSM US decided to do #editathons. There's one happening this weekend, join us. http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/july-summer-editathon/ Our group is signed up. (Seattle)

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Kai Krueger
On 07/19/2013 11:06 AM, Kathleen Danielson wrote: Kai-- those are some really great ideas around publicity! Personally, I think we'd need a dedicated PR person on staff to fully accomplish this. That's not really feasible in the near term, though-- so maybe we should think about ways that we

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Kai Krueger
Clifford Snow wrote I'll start by just listing a few of my thoughts: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. Looking at the data, it is clear that when ever there was significant publicity on OSM, the number

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Kai-- those are some really great ideas around publicity! Personally, I think we'd need a dedicated PR person on staff to fully accomplish this. That's not really feasible in the near term, though-- so maybe we should think about ways that we can break that down into volunteer-sized tasks? This

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Clifford Snow wrote: We need publicity! Harry Wood is trying to recruit more volunteers for the Communication Working Group. You can e-mail him on o...@harrywood.co.uk . cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Clifford, of your 4 ideas only getting coverage in mainstream press would probably be effective. Hey folks, just a quick note to be mindful of the way we're responding to each other's ideas, and to be especially careful since as we all know, tone is easily misread online. (And thanks to Jason

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Jason Remillard
Hello, Most people would agree that we don't have nearly enough people mapping. Clearly, transcending our early adopter types of GIS and open source software people will be needed. However, effective strategies for on boarding the next million people are going to be very different than what was

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. I wish this was the case, but it's not. I'll elaborate. Looking at the data, it is clear that

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: This doesn't have to wait for funding, or permission! There are hundreds of OpenStreetMap ambassadors reading this list, right now. Are

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. I wish this

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. snip When I was in DC, t the Washington Post to covered MappingDC. The Washington

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Russ Nelson
Serge Wroclawski writes: The real lesson of the ambassador program was that running mapping parties in other cities than your own results in press (sometimes), results in various size turnout, but has no track record of creating sustainable community. Except for MappingDC, for which you

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Russell Deffner
Maybe we need to ask people, what got them interested in OSM and what keeps them active. Maybe one of the activities we should undertake is to collect that data to help develop plans go active mappers. I'll jump in on this quickly, I first saw OSM as a background in Depiction

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Tod Fitch
I agree that getting mom pop websites to use OSM will help a lot in getting people aware of of the project and primed to assist. But that is not possible now. There are two things needed for any mom pop site to use OSM: 1. Some quick, easy no hassle way to embed a slippery map. 2. Routing

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello all, While I agree with Clifford that more publicity is essential to grow the organization, another strategy that might be effective is to work through organizations that could have a use for the maps or for mapping as a teaching exercise. We don't have direct access to large

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Similarly, when the Washington Post covered the local DC hackerspace, we had two people stop in at the space (only two!) and neither of them joined. I'm not sure that two events are enough data points to state that

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Kai Krueger
On 07/19/2013 09:57 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Similarly, when the Washington Post covered the local DC hackerspace, we had two people stop in at the space (only two!) and neither of them joined. I'm not sure

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: I think that is partly due to a failure of tools and expectations. Too many tools are still geared towards the initial large scale acquisition of data. There indeed you will likely have a pattern of a few contributors

[Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-18 Thread Clifford Snow
We have over 200 mappers contributing to OSM in the US driving us to second place, but way behind Germany. Look at OSM Stats for the details. http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries Second place is good, but I wonder what we could be if we made it our goal to increase the

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-18 Thread Russ Nelson
Clifford Snow writes: I'd like to suggest that we adopt a goal of increasing the number of active mappers in the US. I'm not sure how we accomplish it, but I'd like to solicit suggestions and feedback. Use of OSM data drives editing of OSM data, as long as people know it's editable. We

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Johnson
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