Can you show me an area of the US that's tagged completely objectively?
For example: Interstate 99 near Altoona, PA is coded (AFAIK appropriately) a
motorway. Over the entire length of the Interstate, it looks like it serves a
max average daily traffic of 37,000 vehicles per day
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, McGuire, Matthew
matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote:
Can you show me an area of the US that's tagged completely objectively?
For example: Interstate 99 near Altoona, PA is coded (AFAIK appropriately) a
motorway. Over the entire length of the Interstate, it
Regarding Matthew's earlier point (Agreed. There is no observation
that will tell you whether a road is more important than another road
that is not where you are. But you can identify physical
characteristics. A lot of these observations will lead to a coherent
whole.): it seems like if you take
WRT US Highway classifications
You may want to take a look at the National Highway Planning Network.
http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_atlas_database/2010/zip/nhpn.zip
It contains the state designated functional classifications for some roads
classified as a Minor Collector
I think that's pretty much covered here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Functional_Classification_System
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Carl Anderson
carl.ander...@vadose.org wrote:
WRT US Highway classifications
You may want to take a look at the National Highway Planning
Thanks Brad.
It may be useful to add data links to the NHPN and HPMS as they provide data
in places where no active state data source link is referenced.
Such as Colorado, Maryland, Texas and others.
C.
Carl Anderson
cander...@spatialfocus.com
carl.ander...@vadose.org
(sent from my phone)
On
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.comwrote:
Regarding Matthew's earlier point (Agreed. There is no observation
that will tell you whether a road is more important than another road
that is not where you are. But you can identify physical
characteristics.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
I-99 is a special case where a congressman wanted a road to go from the PA
turnpike to I-80, he threw a bunch of money at it, and made up a new number
to assign to it. The road never really was meant to be an interstate, and I
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Brad Neuhauser
brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that's pretty much covered here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Functional_Classification_System
And it's not polished enough in many areas (the individual states or
even the local metropolitan
] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
My point is that there should be no tagging for renderers of any kind:
correct or incorrect.
Huh? What does that mean? Who/what are you supposed to tag for if
not for renderers
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, McGuire, Matthew
matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote:
What you mean is that it can transcend usefulness and become a sea of
unclassified roads. Gotcha.
Your usefulness my usefulness. Therefore, I'm advocating objectivity vs
subjectivity.
Can you show me
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, McGuire, Matthew
matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote:
There's no observation that will tell you whether a road is primary or
secondary.
Agreed. There is no observation that will tell you whether a road is more
important than another road that is not where
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org
wrote:
Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org
Edgars II
Cc: Kevin Atkinson; talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II
nerou...@gmail.commailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees
ian.d...@gmail.commailto:ian.d
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, McGuire, Matthew
matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote:
This looks like coding for the map rather than mapping
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
My point is that there should be no tagging for renderers of any kind:
correct or incorrect.
Huh? What does that mean? Who/what are you supposed to tag for if
not for renderers of any kind?
On 07/27/2010 08:00 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
We have those tags: lanes=*, width=*, etc. But there's no on the
ground definition of importance, and there's nothing wrong with
tagging correctly for the renderers. Classification has been
subjective from the beginning in the US, because there
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Ian Dees wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
That is incorrect. There is a relatively consistent government-assigned
classification system. It has been linked to several times on this list
(most recently by the originator of
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Alex Mauer wrote:
On 07/27/2010 08:00 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
We have those tags: lanes=*, width=*, etc. But there's no on the
ground definition of importance, and there's nothing wrong with
tagging correctly for the renderers. Classification has been
subjective from
set of guidelines at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Roadway_Classification_Guidelines
I read the whole page, and this is the first comprehensive narrative I've
seen that makes sense to me for mapping highway tags on US roads. This is
a good proposal. It looks clearly like
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
The problem is that the
European community has decided that the highway tags are shorthand for
physical qualities that usually only exist in
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
The problem is that the
European community has decided that the
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no
getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that.
Guidelines which only focus on each road separably without considering the
entire network will lead to inconsistent results. I have created a
better
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote:
Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no
getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that.
Guidelines which only focus on each road separably without considering
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.orgwrote:
Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no
getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that.
Guidelines which only focus on each road separably without considering
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org
wrote:
Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no
getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that.
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