Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-24 Thread James Mast
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:18:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps From: o...@inbox.org To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:52 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Just got a message back from him and it confirmed my worst fears

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-22 Thread Michael Patrick
Other than Google Mapmaker is there any other ways that Google's data gets updated? ... Does Google import any data from OSM? I know they import data from Wikipedia. See page 2 of https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Eq73uboh5gOiIRf0xmOCCNS9GqQT9o38jA2e1Isog88/edit?usp=sharing After seeing

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:14 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps Other than Google Mapmaker is there any other ways that Google's data gets updated? ... Does Google import any data from OSM? I know they import data from

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-22 Thread Michael Patrick
Nothing in that presentation says that Google sourced the data from Wikipedia, just that Wikipedia and Google had the same coordinates, which in this case would be from some “official” source. That's why I backtracked exhaustively from every official source - Washington State Pilot's Manual,

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Feb 21, 2013 1:19 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: The user who added the interchange has no GPS traces listed for his account. They could have been using someone else's traces in JOSM/Potlatch - you'd have to load everyone's traces (GPX layer in JOSM) to be sure. You also

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com writes: On Feb 21, 2013 1:19 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: The user who added the interchange has no GPS traces listed for his account. They could have been using someone else's traces in JOSM/Potlatch - you'd have to load everyone's

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Greg Troxel wrote: I have lots of traces, have drawn ways from them (in josm), and I haven't uploaded any of them. So not having traces in one's accounts should not lead to the conclusion that GPS was not used. Curious why someone would keep this information

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Mike N
On 2/21/2013 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Curious why someone would keep this information to themselves rather than aiding others in improving the map. In my case, it's sheer laziness. I would also prefer to block out sections around my immediate home base, but have not found an easy way

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Mike N wrote: On 2/21/2013 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Curious why someone would keep this information to themselves rather than aiding others in improving the map. In my case, it's sheer laziness. I would also prefer to block out sections around my

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread James Mast
...@gmail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps I don't get why the assumption is this is copying from Google. It sure looks like this user lives in the area, and has likely seen this interchange in person, or maybe read about it in the news

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread James Mast
translate to a Bing background. Unfortunately, I'm now reporting him to the OSMF. :( --James From: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com To: brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:58:45 -0500 CC: claysmal...@gmail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Rick Marshall
I mistakenly sent this to Greg and not the entire list. So, I'll retry it again: Hello all. I am still fairly new to OSM, so I don't know all the ins and outs. But I have to ask a question. Other than Google Mapmaker is there any other ways that Google's data gets updated? I recently made

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rick Marshall rick.marsh...@verticalgeo.com wrote: I mistakenly sent this to Greg and not the entire list. So, I'll retry it again: Hello all. I am still fairly new to OSM, so I don't know all the ins and outs. But I have to ask a question. Other than

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-20 Thread Clay Smalley
If I weren't confined to my phone right now, I'd check it myself, but are there any GPS tracks along the new interchange? On Feb 20, 2013 9:58 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I just happened to spot a place where there is a possible coping from Google Maps.

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-20 Thread Dale Puch
I see it shows up on google mapmaker, but not google maps except at high zoom as under construction. Is this possibly entered both places by the same person? Regardless it should still be looked into. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.comwrote: If I weren't

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-20 Thread Dale Puch
Ahh nevermind, I just logged into mapmaker and the only user edits there were POI's On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: I see it shows up on google mapmaker, but not google maps except at high zoom as under construction. Is this possibly entered both places

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-20 Thread James Mast
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:37:00 -0500 From: dale.p...@gmail.com To: claysmal...@gmail.com CC: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps I see it shows up on google mapmaker, but not google maps except at high zoom