Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Russell Deffner
Seems the stores you listed are going to have different tags, example the 'dollar' stores are probably best tagged shop=variety_store, the wiki has a pretty extensive list/description of the shop tags here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop However, I would say that K-Mart, Target, and

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more than a supermarket, to my mind). You can pick an area and run Overpass Turbo and see what you get with different

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Eric Fischer
I don't know if it catches all the chains you are interested in, but Aaron Lidman has been collecting the consensus tag schemes for various business names for presets in iD. I think his current compilation is https://github.com/systemed/iD/blob/master/data/name-suggestions.json Eric On Wed, Dec

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Ian Dees
I get this question a lot during mapping parties -- probably because I suggest these sorts of places as a user's first edit. I wonder if we should add presets to iD for these sorts of places with tons of locations (Starbucks, McDonald's, etc.) so that they show up when searched in the preset list

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Tod Fitch
I'd tagged a Dollar General and a Family Dollar as shop=convenience but based on Russ's comment decided to change them to variety_store. After I did that, I wondered what the predominate tagging was. First cut was to use taginfo to find all the objects with a name of 'Dollar General' (295 at this

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Aaron Lidman
Hey guys, I‘ve tried to solve a mostly related problem in iD last month. I just blogged about it here: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/common-names-in-id/ You can try it out in iD here: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/master Just add geometry, and search for a really common name, like K-Mart,

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/11 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more than a supermarket, to my mind). a supermarket can sell

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 2:38 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: Martin, I agree with a lot of what you're saying about department stores, but not with what you're calling supermarket. I think the wikipedia entry for supermarkets is good, so will suggest you read that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarket

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
We should create a general store type value, because Walmart, Supertarget, etc are basically following the Fred Meyer model and Fred Meyer never really stopped calling itself a genderal store until the Kroger merger. Note, I'm only talking about the full-scale Fred Meyer locations (which tend to

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Mike N
On 12/11/2013 10:49 AM, Will Skora wrote: I know there's taginfo (including one for the US! taginfo.openstreetmap.us) but unfortunately, it doesn't let you find out what tag combinations are being used with a name=* (For example, finding what tag is used most often with name=Dollar-General).

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Mike N wrote: Just an opinion about the superstore that includes a full sized supermarket and full sized non-food department store: it almost merits its own tag, or at least 2 nodes to clearly show the 2 store classes. But then one could also argue to include the in-store

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/12/11 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Bartell
Richard Welty on 2013-12-11: On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Mike N wrote: Just an opinion about the superstore that includes a full sized supermarket and full sized non-food department store: it almost merits its own tag, or at least 2 nodes to clearly show the 2 store classes. But then one could

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 11/dic/2013 um 21:26 schrieb Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: a walmart super center consists of a walmart discount department store, a walmart supermarket, and a suite of the various in store services. i think you need a separate node because - citizen's bank, pizza hut, nathan's

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 4:16 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: are these different from a shopping mall? Maybe that's a new class like shop=super_center (or is this a brand?) or superstore or ... Or maybe an attribute to supermarket? shop=super_center would make some sense. basically, they're an even bigger

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
on a tangential but related matter, do we have tagging for the club type shopping venues (e.g. Costco, Sam's Club, B.J.'s Wholesale Club, etc). they are discount department stores of a particularly stripped down nature, but with an annual membership fee. maybe a subtag about membership, perhaps

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Ian, I had a working list of this stuff, partially built from Paul Norman's list and partially built from Wikipedia. If you tell me a place and a format, I can convert it to that. - Serge On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I get this question a lot during