[Talk-us] Metrics on SotM Bid

2010-10-18 Thread Coast, Hurricane
Hi all, I¹m forwarding on this request to the list: I helped a bit with the numbers, but I don't know who started the metrics? If you have the inclination to edit the Budget page, please do! Thanks, Hurricane Hurricane (or Steve, or else please forward :), Can you elaborate a bit on the

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/18/2010 03:31 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/15/2010 09:44 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i've seen an argument that the correct network value for a county route involves using the actual county name, e.g. I wouldn’t

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: For relations I agree, but for ways this doesn’t work.  And as renderers can only handle ways for now… I guess renderers are going to be wrong or now. For now shouldn't last too long, though. Just remove the ref info from

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/18/2010 04:16 PM, Anthony wrote: I guess renderers are going to be wrong or now. For now shouldn't last too long, though. Just remove the ref info from the ways, and the renderers will likely get their act together rather quickly. I for one would consider that to be vandalism. I also

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 04:16 PM, Anthony wrote: I guess renderers are going to be wrong or now. For now shouldn't last too long, though.  Just remove the ref info from the ways, and the renderers will likely get their act

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 04:16 PM, Anthony wrote: I guess renderers are going to be wrong or now. For now shouldn't last too long, though.  Just remove the ref info

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 04:16 PM, Anthony wrote: I guess renderers are going to be wrong or now. For now shouldn't last too long, though. Just remove the ref info

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/18/2010 04:41 PM, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 04:16 PM, Anthony wrote: I guess renderers are going to be wrong or now. For now shouldn't last too

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 04:16 PM, Anthony wrote: I guess renderers are going to be wrong or

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 04:16

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On 10/15/2010 05:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Ian Dees ian.dees-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Ways and relations are equally easy to break Nope. They're not, because relation membership is not a tag on the way. A way is always uploaded with its tags, but for various reasons (editor bugs, huge relations causing timeouts,

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Ways and relations are equally easy to break Nope. They're not, because

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand no renderer or other data user I've heard of is being negatively affected by the presence of bicycle=avoid so perhaps it doesn't matter. I don't know if he's had any success, but Paul has attempted to get

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:

[Talk-us] Marketing and Communication Working Group

2010-10-18 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Come one, Come all! The U.S. Chapter of OSM is launching its own Marketing and Communication Working Group to support the chapter's activities with marketing and publicity. But, to do this right, we need YOU! If you have experience or an interest in public relations,

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand no renderer or other data user I've heard of is being negatively affected by the presence of bicycle=avoid so perhaps it doesn't matter. It seems dangerous to use an access tag for something other than

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: What if the law is implicit? Is there consensus whether or not to tag implicit laws? Yes, we tag implicit speed limits (along with a source:maxspeed or whatever). But there is a dispute between Nathan and Paul as to whether or

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: What if the law is implicit?  Is there consensus whether or not to tag implicit laws? Yes, we tag implicit speed limits (along with a source:maxspeed or

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: What if the law is implicit? Is there consensus whether or not to tag implicit laws?

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Peter Budny
Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/15/2010 09:44 PM, Richard Welty wrote: I don't think we should be storing any prefix as part of the network=* or ref=* tags (thus my