[Talk-us] Work on Arizona rail lines deleted

2012-06-19 Thread Charlotte Wolter

Dear US folks,

I did a lot of work on the railroad that parallels I-40 
across Arizona, from Gallup, N.M., to Flagstaff, Ariz.  There are two 
parallel tracks with different names, but OSM had only one of those 
tracks. I added the second rail way and numerous side tracks, 
following the Bing imagery. It was hours and hours of work.
Now someone has deleted most of the second line without 
contacting me or discussing the issue on the mail list. Anyone know 
anything about this?


Charlotte



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Re: [Talk-us] Work on Arizona rail lines deleted

2012-06-19 Thread Toby Murray
Can you please give a link to a specific location where your work was
deleted? I found one location where one of the lines ends but using
the Potlatch 1 undelete feature I'm not seeing any deleted ways in
the area:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.017245lon=-109.728267zoom=18layers=M

Also, one of the lines seems to be tagged as a spur which doesn't seem
right. Might just be bad TIGER tags though. I know there were all
kinds of problems with spurs in the import.

Toby


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
 Dear US folks,

 I did a lot of work on the railroad that parallels I-40 across
 Arizona, from Gallup, N.M., to Flagstaff, Ariz.  There are two parallel
 tracks with different names, but OSM had only one of those tracks. I added
 the second rail way and numerous side tracks, following the Bing imagery. It
 was hours and hours of work.
 Now someone has deleted most of the second line without contacting
 me or discussing the issue on the mail list. Anyone know anything about
 this?

 Charlotte


 Charlotte Wolter
 927 18th Street Suite A
 Santa Monica, California
 90403
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Re: [Talk-us] Work on Arizona rail lines deleted

2012-06-19 Thread Alan Mintz

At 2012-06-19 10:27, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
I did a lot of work on the railroad that parallels I-40 across 
Arizona, from Gallup, N.M., to Flagstaff, Ariz.  There are two parallel 
tracks with different names, but OSM had only one of those tracks. I 
added the second rail way and numerous side tracks, following the Bing 
imagery. It was hours and hours of work.
Now someone has deleted most of the second line without 
contacting me or discussing the issue on the mail list. Anyone know 
anything about this?


Can you be more specific? The places I looked had your rail and another 
unnamed one.


BTW, if I don't have the names, or don't care to name them separately, I 
add tracks=n (where n is the number of tracks) to a single way to indicate 
multiple parallel tracks, and position the way in the middle.


Same applies to yards if I don't feel like drawing umpteen parallel ways. I 
run a single way roughly through the middle and add tracks=a;b;c, where a 
in the number of tracks going into the yard, b is the maximum number of 
tracks wide in the yard, and c is the number of tracks going back out (in 
the direction of the way). I then use a landuse=railway closed way to 
surround the yard.



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Re: [Talk-us] Work on Arizona rail lines deleted

2012-06-19 Thread Nathan Edgars II

On 6/19/2012 1:27 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote:

Dear US folks,

I did a lot of work on the railroad that parallels I-40 across Arizona,
from Gallup, N.M., to Flagstaff, Ariz. There are two parallel tracks
with different names,
Not sure what you mean by this. The Gallup Subdivision (Belen-East 
Winslow) and Seligman Subdivision (East Winslow-Needles) both operate 
(at least east of Seligman) using centralized traffic control on 2+ main 
tracks.


 but OSM had only one of those tracks. I added the

second rail way and numerous side tracks, following the Bing imagery. It
was hours and hours of work.
Now someone has deleted most of the second line without contacting me or
discussing the issue on the mail list. Anyone know anything about this?


I assume you're talking about east of Holbrook. It's hard to tell, but 
looking at http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/137620560/history in 
JOSM before and after changeset 10173363, I see that it's now on the 
south track but had been on the north track.


In that changeset, you deleted one of the ways (a two-node crossover) 
you had previously added: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/137364047/history
and you deleted a node where the siding had joined the north main track: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1506904532/history


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[Talk-us] Duplicate GNIS points

2012-06-19 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
What's the proper thing to do when there are multiple GNIS ids for the
same node?

For instance:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.131959lon=-106.516827zoom=18layers=M

There are two identical nodes with identical coordinates:
Saint Stephens United Methodist Church, gnis:feature_id=939399
Saint Stephen's United Methodist Church, gnis:feature_id=914456

Obviously these are meant to be the same point. What's the proper way to
merge these together, since a node can't have two gnis:feature_id tags?
Is it okay to just delete one?

Another example has three entries:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.081997lon=-106.61987zoom=18layers=M
University Art Museum (gnis:feature_id=929517)
Jonson Gallery of the University Art Museum (gnis:feature_id=929518)
Jonson Gallery (gnis:feature_id=933296)

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Re: [Talk-us] Duplicate GNIS points

2012-06-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Anthony J. Bentley 
anthonyjbent...@gmail.com wrote:

 What's the proper thing to do when there are multiple GNIS ids for the
 same node?


In general: delete ones that are wrong, copy the gnis:* tags to the polygon
if you're upgrading a node to a polygon.



 For instance:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.131959lon=-106.516827zoom=18layers=M

 There are two identical nodes with identical coordinates:
 Saint Stephens United Methodist Church, gnis:feature_id=939399
 Saint Stephen's United Methodist Church, gnis:feature_id=914456


 Obviously these are meant to be the same point. What's the proper way to
 merge these together, since a node can't have two gnis:feature_id tags?
 Is it okay to just delete one?


Yep. Delete the wrong one.



 Another example has three entries:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.081997lon=-106.61987zoom=18layers=M
 University Art Museum (gnis:feature_id=929517)
 Jonson Gallery of the University Art Museum (gnis:feature_id=929518)
 Jonson Gallery (gnis:feature_id=933296)
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