Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Michael Patrick
this is where we need rail fans or rail professionals to correct us where we are wrong, as the structure of the network is what we are defining with these tags (main and branch), Oak Ridge National Laboratory: ... Railroad Network is a representation of the North American railroad system that

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread stevea
Michael Patrick writes: (about the Oak Ridge National Laboratory: ... Railroad Network data). I found these at: http://www-cta.ornl.gov/transnet/RailRoads.html And have downloaded (~10 megabytes) a zipped shapefile of the entire network (as well as the simplified 7 megabyte one which omits

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Steve, Thanks to Michael for a great find and to you for trying to make it usable in OSM. It will be interesting to see what comes out of it. Sounds like we should hold off on any wiki work for a while. There is much data to examine, and I'm already doing stuff for HOT.

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I examine these in JOSM right now. First they need to be unzipped, and it looks like the (provided on that web page) PRJ file to change from WGS 84 (default) to either NAD 27 or 83 projection is required. I haven't done

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Natfoot
Also good data can be retrieved from time tables, division maps, and track diagrams. Nathan Proudfoot Tel: (425) 835-3638 email: n.pf...@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com

[Talk-us] Rail USA

2014-12-31 Thread stevea
Also good data can be retrieved from time tables, division maps, and track diagrams. That is true, thank you Nathan Proudfoot. For the Union Pacific, I was disappointed that their web site requires a (UP employee?) login and password to gain access to their geographic rail data. BNSF seems

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Yes, WGS84 because that’s what’s used by GPS (which was, after all, the original data source for OSM). Of course, then there’s the question of *which* WGS84 definition we’re talking about. You actually can’t assumed that current definitions of WGS84 and NAD83 are 1m difference. You can dip

[Talk-us] NAD 27 data to OSM's native WGS 84 data

2014-12-31 Thread stevea
I wrote: I examine these in JOSM right now. First they need to be unzipped, and it looks like the (provided on that web page) PRJ file to change from WGS 84 (default) to either NAD 27 or 83 projection is required. I haven't done that to these data in the instant case, but I've fiddled these

Re: [Talk-us] NAD 27 data to OSM's native WGS 84 data

2014-12-31 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Any magic incantation that will just do this (for shapefile data) is appreciated. I don't know if copy-pasting the above string into a .prj in the shapefile folder will direct JOSM (via Shapefile plug-in) to adjust the data to WGS 84, or if something different is required. It is even

Re: [Talk-us] NAD 27 data to OSM's native WGS 84 data

2014-12-31 Thread stevea
Any magic incantation that will just do this (for shapefile data) is appreciated. I don't know if copy-pasting the above string into a .prj in the shapefile folder will direct JOSM (via Shapefile plug-in) to adjust the data to WGS 84, or if something different is required. It is even

Re: [Talk-us] NAD 27 data to OSM's native WGS 84 data

2014-12-31 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/31/2014 2:14 PM, stevea wrote: OSM uses WGS-84 as its default, and I erred in not realizing these data are in NAD 27, so a conversion does seem to be necessary. Not just by default - OSM is defined as only being in WGS84. When you open them as-is with JOSM (+ Shapefile plug-in), you get

[Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Clifford Snow
A Scout note, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/294192 complains of routing problems when a ferry is required. A user of the OSM-based Scout app reported the following possible map error: will not use ferry route. avoid ferry not checked. Is that a problem limited to Scout, or is there something

Re: [Talk-us] Imports-us Digest, Vol 24, Issue 1

2014-12-31 Thread stevea
(cross-posting from imports-us to talk-us) On 12/31/2014 1:48 PM, stevea wrote: That is true, thank you Nathan Proudfoot. For the Union Pacific, I was disappointed that their web site requires a (UP employee?) login and password to gain access to their geographic rail data. BNSF seems a

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 1:39 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: A Scout note, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/294192 complains of routing problems when a ferry is required. A user of the OSM-based Scout app reported the following possible map error: will not use ferry route. avoid ferry not checked. Is that a

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Natfoot
Clifford, When talking to the Scout team this summer it was mentioned as an issue. Also Scout wont route across access roads and if there is an access road leading up to the dock/portal then no route. you will notice that it is listed as primary road in Edmonds and Kingston. Nathan P On Wed,