Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)
Thanks for all the feedback, especially from Kevin. I will create road route relations as suggested, as I come across them. --- On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 18:35:28 -0700, Mark Wagner wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:45:19 +0900 > tj-osmw...@lowsnr.net wrote: > > > Newby here. > > > > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" > > name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I > > think most map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it > > what would be listed in postal addresses and they'd want to search it > > in applications such as OSMand. Question is how to handle this. Also, > > what to set the "ref" to for county roads. > > > > There's not much information on the roads tagging page: > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#Individual_states_2 > > > > Proposal: use alt_name for "County Road nn" and name for "Acacia > > Avenue" where a name is given. (I've seen name_1 used but this is not > > really a "standard" OSM tag, AFAIK.) > > > > For ref: set the ref to the county road number until someone can come > > up with a better proposal... > > > > Any Idahoans have any information? > > Not an Idahoan, but I've driven in the area from time to time. The > roads I'm familiar with don't have a "County Road" designation on the > sign, just the road name. > > -- > Mark > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:45:19 +0900 tj-osmw...@lowsnr.net wrote: > Newby here. > > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" > name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I > think most map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it > what would be listed in postal addresses and they'd want to search it > in applications such as OSMand. Question is how to handle this. Also, > what to set the "ref" to for county roads. > > There's not much information on the roads tagging page: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#Individual_states_2 > > Proposal: use alt_name for "County Road nn" and name for "Acacia > Avenue" where a name is given. (I've seen name_1 used but this is not > really a "standard" OSM tag, AFAIK.) > > For ref: set the ref to the county road number until someone can come > up with a better proposal... > > Any Idahoans have any information? Not an Idahoan, but I've driven in the area from time to time. The roads I'm familiar with don't have a "County Road" designation on the sign, just the road name. -- Mark ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 9:31 AM wrote: > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" name > but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I think most > map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it what would be > listed in postal addresses and they'd want to search it in applications > such as OSMand. Question is how to handle this. Also, what to set the > "ref" to for county roads. Not an Idahoan, so take this with a grain of salt. Does Idaho actually have numbered county highways other than the grid streets? (Many Western states do not.) Most states' practice will set the 'ref' to something like 'CR 23', It's unnecessary to have a name like 'County Road 23'. In fact, if you do have such a name, a lot of routing software will announce, 'turn right on CR 23, County Road 23'. If the road has no other name, add the tag `noname=yes` to silence warnings about a tertiary highway without a name. Please, create a route relation for each road with a reference. Include in the relation all the road segments that make up the route. Minimal attributes for the relation would be `type=route route=road network=US:ID:Boundary ref=29A` for Boundary County Road 29A. The corresponding street segment would have `highway=tertiary name="Chokecherry Drive" ref="CR 29A"`, and it would ideally have attributes like surface, maxspeed, lanes, Having the relation provides the data model with a way to group all the way segments; roads get split all the time when people decide to map small bridges, or when speed limits or lane counts changed, and so on. -- 73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)
Be cautious using TIGER data in rural areas. I suspect many of the small counties don't have the resources to send updates to Census. I'd recommend looking at county and state data sources for accurate road names. Best, Clifford On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 6:29 AM wrote: > > Newby here. > > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" name > but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I think most > map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it what would be > listed in postal addresses and they'd want to search it in applications > such as OSMand. Question is how to handle this. Also, what to set the > "ref" to for county roads. > > There's not much information on the roads tagging page: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#Individual_states_2 > > Proposal: use alt_name for "County Road nn" and name for "Acacia Avenue" > where a name is given. (I've seen name_1 used but this is not really a > "standard" OSM tag, AFAIK.) > > For ref: set the ref to the county road number until someone can come up > with a better proposal... > > Any Idahoans have any information? > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)
Newby here. Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I think most map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it what would be listed in postal addresses and they'd want to search it in applications such as OSMand. Question is how to handle this. Also, what to set the "ref" to for county roads. There's not much information on the roads tagging page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#Individual_states_2 Proposal: use alt_name for "County Road nn" and name for "Acacia Avenue" where a name is given. (I've seen name_1 used but this is not really a "standard" OSM tag, AFAIK.) For ref: set the ref to the county road number until someone can come up with a better proposal... Any Idahoans have any information? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
