Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

I've seen 25or6to4's work, I am impressed. Furthermore, I've asked him (off-list) if he would be willing to share his work more widely (here on talk-us), as it may "spark" a wider launch into the sort of clean-up of tiger:LSAD=57 data I've been waiting to see happen. (Their

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Hi all, User 25or6to4 contacted me offline mentioning that he has been working on improving boundaries based on newer TIGER for the past months now. That, taken together with the boundless (ha) energy exuding from this thread, makes me have a very happy boundary-positive attitude! I’m not

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Carl Anderson is correct: what is in the map from TIGER about LSAD is true and affords the possibly to derive geo data about incorporated entities (in some cases, where they haven't been deleted), although the data (being somewhere between 11 and 13 years old) may not be accurate, given

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

And another reminder: sparsely populated areas of the US may have indefinite boundaries simply because nobody ever troubled to survey and monument them. New York has a few county lines and a good many township lines like that. They get resolved when and if there's a dispute. The tax revenue from

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:07 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hmm. > > I guess https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_admin_level is > really not correct then where it says: "Census Designated Places (CDPs) are > boundaries maintained by the Census Bureau for statistical purposes. CDPs >

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > I looked at a few place boundaries in Utah and compared with current TIGER > files.. Definitely needs work.. > https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1113me8y9t1my5/Screenshot%202018-11-14%2008.42.30.png?dl=0 > (colored > = current OSM, grey =

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Nope, I'm saying all those wiki pages are correct. CDPs are boundaries for statistical purposes, not city boundaries. But I agree there are too many wiki pages :). On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:04 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hmm. > > I guess

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Hmm. I guess https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_admin_level is really not correct then where it says: "Census Designated Places (CDPs) are boundaries maintained by the Census Bureau for statistical purposes. CDPs

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Looks about right. There's examples of this sort of thing all over... heck, there's some cities that straddle state lines. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 07:47 Hi, > > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which part of two counties? > > see:

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

A friendly reminder that Census's TIGER data we have previously imported as admin8 polygons aren't actually official city boundaries. They're "Census Designated Places " which are just named "concentrations of people". In some cases the Census

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

On 11/14/18 07:46, wambac...@posteo.de wrote: > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which  part of two counties? I'm pretty sure parts of Houston, TX, extend past the Harris County boundaries. -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:46:48 +0100 From: wambac...@posteo.de To: "talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap" Subject: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois Hi, are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which  part of two counties? see:

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

.com>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:18 AM >> To: Clifford Snow mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us>> >> Cc: wambac...@posteo.de <mailto:wambac...@posteo.de>; >> talk-us@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [Talk-u

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

lifford Snow > Cc: wambac...@posteo.de; talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois > > Minnesota has around 40 cross-county cities, most of which have just a small > portion in the second county. St. Cloud is notable for being in three >

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

things interesting. Kerry Irons From: Brad Neuhauser Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:18 AM To: Clifford Snow Cc: wambac...@posteo.de; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois Minnesota has around 40 cross-county cities, most of which

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Minnesota has around 40 cross-county cities, most of which have just a small portion in the second county. St. Cloud is notable for being in three counties! https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/137238 On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:01 AM Clifford Snow wrote: > Yes - a city can cover more than one

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Yes. New York City has several counties within its borders. I believe Houston and several other cities in Texas cross county borders. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:08 PM Adam Franco wrote: > Last summer there was a big thread Differences with USA admin_level > tagging >

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Thanks for pointing it out, Walter. As others have said, local admin boundaries and their hierarchies are weird from a European perspective. I am still trying to understand it. The boundary may still be wrong. Many (all?) of the admin8 boundaries were imported almost 10 years ago. I wouldn’t

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Yes - a city can cover more than one county in the US. I'm not familiar with your example, but we have Bothell, WA which is in both King and Snohomish County. Best, Clifford On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 5:47 AM wrote: > Hi, > > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which part of two

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

I can think of at least six examples in Pennsylvania off the top of my head: Trafford, McDonald, Shippensburg, Seven Springs, Telford, Falls Creek. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 08:49 Hi, > > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which part of two counties? > > see:

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Last summer there was a big thread Differences with USA admin_level tagging that talked a lot about odd cases in the US. As one example, Kevin Kenny pointed out