Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | | > I guess that would mean that scattering unused space on an SSD between | > the partions, means the controller probably sees it as being used. I | > left chunks allocated at the ends of the drives as recommended. I was | > just

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Russell via talk
On April 18, 2018 8:35:41 AM CDT, lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: >> I guess that would mean that scattering unused space on an SSD >between the partions, means the controller probably sees it as being >used. I left chunks allocated at the ends of the drives as recommended. >I was just

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 09:23:12AM -0400, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > Try bonnie++ a few times on each install. It is explicitly designed to > test drive performance. Yeah that is a good test. -- Len Sorensen --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 06:35:57AM -0500, Russell wrote: > It wrote a bunch of zeros to a virtual file. Perhaps even touching a tmp file > along the way. Even if it didnt touch tmp, it wrote the zeros someplace in > order to perform the count. No it passed a bunch of zeros through a pipe to

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Russell via talk
On April 18, 2018 8:23:12 AM CDT, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: >On 2018-04-18 07:35 AM, Russell via talk wrote: >> >> >> On April 17, 2018 9:02:14 AM CDT, lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Russell via talk wrote:

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
> I guess that would mean that scattering unused space on an SSD between the > partions, means the controller probably sees it as being used. I left chunks > allocated at the ends of the drives as recommended. I was just wondering if > my stripes would increase that wear level capability, as

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Jamon Camisso via talk
On 2018-04-18 07:35 AM, Russell via talk wrote: > > > On April 17, 2018 9:02:14 AM CDT, lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Russell via talk wrote: >>> Currently I have two versions of the same os on the same machine. One >> on M.2 Xpoint nvram and

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Russell via talk
On April 17, 2018 9:02:14 AM CDT, lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: >On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Russell via talk wrote: >> Currently I have two versions of the same os on the same machine. One >on M.2 Xpoint nvram and one on a standard SSD. I'm playing around with >tweaking

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread Russell via talk
On April 17, 2018 10:30:25 AM CDT, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" wrote: >| From: Russell via talk > >| >| From: Giles Orr via talk > >| >| I'm with Len - simplify if you can. Although Unlike him, I >believe you >| >| should have at least

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread Russell via talk
On April 17, 2018 10:19:18 AM CDT, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" wrote: >| From: Russell via talk > >| On April 11, 2018 7:02:56 PM EDT, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" > wrote: > >| When I first started my switch from DOS to *nix, I was told

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Russell via talk | >| From: Giles Orr via talk | >| I'm with Len - simplify if you can. Although Unlike him, I believe you | >| should have at least two (Linux) OS partitions - if one is messed up, you | >| can boot from the other to fix it. And I've

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Russell via talk | On April 11, 2018 7:02:56 PM EDT, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" wrote: | When I first started my switch from DOS to *nix, I was told you | absolutely don't want to run two versions of init on the same machine. I | believe this is

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Russell via talk wrote: > Currently I have two versions of the same os on the same machine. One on M.2 > Xpoint nvram and one on a standard SSD. I'm playing around with tweaking > before I do a final config. So far the Xpoint direct hw access appears 3x

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread Russell via talk
On April 11, 2018 7:02:56 PM EDT, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" wrote: >| From: Giles Orr via talk > >Clunk Clunk Clunk (I'm nodding my head). > >| I'm with Len - simplify if you can. Although Unlike him, I believe >you >| should have at least two (Linux) OS

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-11 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On 11 April 2018 at 23:02, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Giles Orr via talk > | These days it > | seems you want a /boot partition though - but I'm not the one to explain > | the ins and outs of that. > > I've not seen a use for a /boot

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-11 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Giles Orr via talk Clunk Clunk Clunk (I'm nodding my head). | I'm with Len - simplify if you can. Although Unlike him, I believe you | should have at least two (Linux) OS partitions - if one is messed up, you | can boot from the other to fix it. And I've also - more

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-11 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On 11 April 2018 at 11:12, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 09:58:05AM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk > wrote: > > Warm Greetings To GTALUG Members, > > > > This coming weekend (Friday 13 April 2018) I will be building my new > desktop PC with the

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-11 Thread Bob Jonkman via talk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve: You're overthinking this. Boot from install media, accept the defaults, install. This works for 99% of the people. Once you've got a bit of familiarity with the system you'll probably want to re-do the installation anyway, no matter what

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 09:58:05AM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Warm Greetings To GTALUG Members, > > This coming weekend (Friday 13 April 2018) I will be building my new desktop > PC with the help of my friend who has built quite a few PCs for his employer. > > The new PC will