Re: A Question Or Two
Yes, you are correct - it's Windows 8.1, thanks for the suggestions. On 2/28/2020 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: When you said "8.4" you really meant Windows 8.1, which was the last one before Windows 10. If you meant Window-Eyes 8.4, it is not going to work on Windows 10 at all. You should be running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 if possible. For installing Windows 10, if it is an older version, you can get Narrator started with Windows-Enter. For the versions of the last couple of years, you can start Narrator with ctrl-Windows-Enter. When I did an install back in 2015, the disability answer desk didn't exist. But I put an AM radio near the computer to get a sense of whether there was disk activity, the processor was waiting for input, etc. This helped a little. Also, Aira or BeMyEyes might be helpful during the setup process. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:29 PM To: Loy Green via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: A Question Or Two Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later. On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscrip
Re: A Question Or Two
When you said "8.4" you really meant Windows 8.1, which was the last one before Windows 10. If you meant Window-Eyes 8.4, it is not going to work on Windows 10 at all. You should be running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 if possible. For installing Windows 10, if it is an older version, you can get Narrator started with Windows-Enter. For the versions of the last couple of years, you can start Narrator with ctrl-Windows-Enter. When I did an install back in 2015, the disability answer desk didn't exist. But I put an AM radio near the computer to get a sense of whether there was disk activity, the processor was waiting for input, etc. This helped a little. Also, Aira or BeMyEyes might be helpful during the setup process. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:29 PM To: Loy Green via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: A Question Or Two Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later. On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
matters not which you download, but be assured that windows ten is a lot easier than people believe it is. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 10:55 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: It's interesting how experiences vary. I found 8.1 & WE to work well together. Do you think I should download Jaws before or after I download Windows 10? On 2/28/2020 1:25 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it ever did with 8.1 for 8.1 didn't have any start menu. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
It's interesting how experiences vary. I found 8.1 & WE to work well together. Do you think I should download Jaws before or after I download Windows 10? On 2/28/2020 1:25 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it ever did with 8.1 for 8.1 didn't have any start menu. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it ever did with 8.1 for 8.1 didn't have any start menu. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later. On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
