Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-07 Thread Marilyn and Don Bilderback via Talk
I love this explaination.  Perfect example of using an orange.  Changes in 
latitudes and changes in attitudes anyone?


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From: David via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

Larry and the resst,
I will spend a few minutes of your time, attempting to answer the
question of yours, the way I understood your asking.

How come, that every place on earth, can be refered to by a set of
coordinates?

First of all, we need to understand the terms Longitude, and Latitude.
Are you a former sighted person, or still have a certain amount of
eye-sight to lean on, this might be basic for you. For those of you who
grew up with no sight, geography might be one of the classes where
things sometimes got a bit too simplified. So let's take a moment to
explain the two terms.

Imagine the earth, being a fruit, like an orange. You know, if you peel
an orange, the inner fruit will consist of several wedges. Where all the
wedges meet, on top, and in the bottom of the fruit - is where the poles
are; North on top, South-pole (or Antartica) in the bottom. The lines
between the individual wedges, which runs from one pole to the other,
would now be your Longitudes. The fruit only holds a few longitudes,
whereas the Earth has been divided into 360 longitudes. To make things
easier for all who navigate, the longitude that runs through Greenwich -
which I do hold is located in the UK - has been defined as Longitude 0.
Any longitudes to the West (or left on the map), will have a negative
longitude value. Any longitude to the East (or right) of the Greenwich,
will be a positive longitude. When you, at the strict opposite side of
the globe, have the positives and negatives meet, you are standing on
the 180th longitude. By the way, that particular longitude - 180 - will
also be known as the Date-line. This due to the fact, that is where the
24-hour day has been defined by human wisdom, to wrap. You will very
likely be quite familiar with time-zones, and know that at given times
throughout the day, you are sleeping, while other locations on Earth
will be quite enjoying their lunch.

OK, so that all took care of the longitudes. But what are latitudes?
Get back to your orange. Place it so that the southern pole rests on the
table, and the North-Pole is located on the very top point of the fruit.
Take a pkiece of rope, and wrap it around the very belly of the fruit -
that is, where the fruit is at its very thickest. This belt, is the
Equator, running exactly mid-way between the two poles, and all around
the globe. It is Latitude 0. Go ahead, and stretch new belts around your
fruit, at exact intervals, until you reach the North-pole, or top of the
fruit. You now should hav 180 such belts, and they are all positively
numbered. Repeat the action, stretching belts around the southern
hemosphere of your globe, again equally intervalling them, till you
reach 180, which will be encircling the Southern Pole. All the southern
latitude belts, will have negative numbers.

Now that we have divided our globe into longitude lines, and latitude
belts, it all forms a coordinate system. Easily understood, is the fact
that we could refer to any place, which happen to be located at the very
crossing point of any of these lines. But what about the places, which
happen to be located anywhere in the areas BETWEEN the grid lines? How
can we best refer to them?

In the class of navigation, you would be talking about minutes, degrees
and seconds. They are not completely linked to the time you can read on
a clock, and I won't claim to understand these calculations too well.
What's more, we do not need to fully understand. But let me tell you
that modern technology has made it all a bit easier for us humans.

How about we tell that you need to move a certain amount of steps, to
get from one longitude to the next. And likewise, you need a given
number of steps, to get from latitude A, to latitude B. (please note, I
am not here refering to a walking step, but rather any predefined
stretch we have to move in our coordinate system.) If now, we could have
a way to tell which longitude and latitude to start from, and how many
steps into the grid square between our coordinate lines we are actually
positioned, it would make our location quite much more accurate. So how
do we do that?

If you noticed, when we were to fill in our Location coordinates, in the
WeatherOrNot ini file, we used some decimal values. The main part of the
value, the digits to the left of the decimal point, is the number that
directly refers to the line number in our coordinate. A latitude value
of 63.49420, will then refer to the latitude number 63 - counted from
the Equator and to the North. The minor part of the decimal number - in
our example 49420, will be how far - how many steps - further north of
the 63rd latitude our position is.

Again, a Longitude value of -59.12345, which

RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-05 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Butch,

Thanks for the trick question.
I had to use my Google Home Mini to make some enquiries, and, after that, and 
some contemplation, I get how Alaska is such a star. Smile
Really, I should have known, living up here in Canada, where we have all kinds 
of points west and east, and, of course, north. Smiles

Thanks again,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: February 5, 2019 1:44 AM
To: David via Talk 
Cc: Butch Bussen 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

Good explanation.  We had a large globe at kansas school for the blind 
with raised lines for these lines as well as land and mountains and so 
forth.  I'd love to have that globe, stood on a stand and was I'd guess 3 
feet in diameter.

Anyhow, as I recall, some times degrees are given in decimals and some 
times given in degrees minutes and seconds.  If I remember right, one 
minute is one nautical mile which is about a mile and an eighth, Alexa 
says 6076 feet.  This comes out 1.15 mile.  This is true at the equater of 
course as if you go north or south the lines get closer.  That is why our 
counties here in Kansas which are square have jogs in the roads called 
lines of corection.  You can't lay out squares on a round globe.

Here is a trivia question I won on the radio when I lived in Vegas.  Name 
the most northern, eastern, western and southern states in the united 
states.
Hawaii, of course is easy for the south one.  For the north, it is Alaska 
for all three.  The reason why is Alaska reaches furtherest longitude 
lines east and west of any other ease or west states.  .

Hope I haven't bored you all to much.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Good explanation.  We had a large globe at kansas school for the blind 
with raised lines for these lines as well as land and mountains and so 
forth.  I'd love to have that globe, stood on a stand and was I'd guess 3 
feet in diameter.


Anyhow, as I recall, some times degrees are given in decimals and some 
times given in degrees minutes and seconds.  If I remember right, one 
minute is one nautical mile which is about a mile and an eighth, Alexa 
says 6076 feet.  This comes out 1.15 mile.  This is true at the equater of 
course as if you go north or south the lines get closer.  That is why our 
counties here in Kansas which are square have jogs in the roads called 
lines of corection.  You can't lay out squares on a round globe.


Here is a trivia question I won on the radio when I lived in Vegas.  Name 
the most northern, eastern, western and southern states in the united 
states.
Hawaii, of course is easy for the south one.  For the north, it is Alaska 
for all three.  The reason why is Alaska reaches furtherest longitude 
lines east and west of any other ease or west states.  .


Hope I haven't bored you all to much.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
ing,
might have been taken a totally different place in town, from where you
sit at the moment. Weather conditions might be given specifically, or as
an average of all the measurements reported for that city. It all will
depend on exactly what weather service the app retrieves its info from.

Just to round it all up, As modern technology develops, more and more
decimals can be added to your positioning coordinate values - meaning
smaller and smaller steps can be measured. It is not unlikely that you
already would be able to give a quite accurate coordinate, for each room
of your house. Just imagine that your bedroom is one decimal place
closer to Equator, and that might be why you feel so warm and comfie in
bed. Hahaha. Might sound like a joke, but reality is that given the
right equipment, it is not totaly a dream to have such exact
measurements. OK then, to what extent it will affect the temperature of
your room, was a mere joke.

Larry, I hope this helped you a bit. On the website I refered you to,
they have a bit more info on the coordinates. And if you want even more
details, try looking up online dictionaries, on the terms of Longitudes
and Latitudes.

David

On 2/4/2019 4:11 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Butch,


I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file.


Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but
plan to do so.


I find it kind of interesting  that if one fills in the zip code of a
particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a
particular city

. Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part

I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3
cities in it, but you could likely edit it.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:


Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just
yet.  I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your
being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately
do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to
follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk

On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with
the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and
quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I
do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts
its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I
tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file
before you modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude
coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are
trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I
found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:
https://www.latlong.net/

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your
city. Like:
      Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on
Browse Mode here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact
city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the
Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for
the  Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file,
as will be described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice
for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for
each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and
go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste
the given info into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get
to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will
go by it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the
letter E. The user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
      WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out
all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as
they are all important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
      [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter.
You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants her

Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk

Here is my ini file for what is worth.
To get the file you want, go to the link below
and hit enter on that file.

http://www.shellworld.net/~butchb

Butch Bussen


73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Larry Higgins 
via Talk wrote:



Butch,

I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file.


Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but plan to 
do so.



I find it kind of interesting  that if one fills in the zip code of a 
particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a 
particular city


. Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part Who knows, maybe you covered this in your explanation already.


Thanks so much though for your help from I'm sure all of us who wish to 
continue using this handy little app.



Larry

On 2/4/2019 7:48 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:

 I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3 cities
 in it, but you could likely edit it.
 73
 Butch
 WA0VJR
 Node 3148
 Wallace, ks.


 On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:

>  Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just 
>  yet.  I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your 
>  being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately do 
>  have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to follow 
>  and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well.
> 
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  Amanda Lee
> 
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Talk 
>   On 
>  Behalf Of David via Talk

>  Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>  Cc: David 
>  Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
> 
>  OK, guys.

>  This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
>  I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
>  WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
>  searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have 
>  no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so 
>  you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the 
>  following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.
> 
>  As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file 
>  before you modify it at all.
> 
>  OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
>  coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying 
>  to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be 
>  fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:

>  https://www.latlong.net/
> 
>  When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your 
>  city. Like:

>      Toronto, On
>  for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
>  Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
>  Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse 
>  Mode here.
> 
>  The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city 
>  or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button 
>  on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude 
>  and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be 
>  described below.
> 
>  In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for 
>  the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each 
>  city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the 
>  text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info 
>  into your ini file.
> 
>  How To Modify The Ini File?
>  Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to 
>  the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by 
>  it, step by step.
> 
>  First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter 
>  E. The user profile folder will open.
> 
>  Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:

>      WeatherOrNot.ini
>  , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
>  Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
>  punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are 
>  all important.
> 
>  In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads

>      [Locations]
>  . Do NOT modify this line.
> 
>  Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You 
>  now have a blank line for entering your personalized info.
>  What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To 
>  keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it 
>  to your personal location:
>      Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To brea

Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread David via Talk
tern  part
> of the town. For most villages and towns, it would have no impact on the
> info we are looking for. Even for the biggest cities, it might not be
> too much to bother, since the weather measurements we are receiving,
> might have been taken a totally different place in town, from where you
> sit at the moment. Weather conditions might be given specifically, or as
> an average of all the measurements reported for that city. It all will
> depend on exactly what weather service the app retrieves its info from.
>
> Just to round it all up, As modern technology develops, more and more
> decimals can be added to your positioning coordinate values - meaning
> smaller and smaller steps can be measured. It is not unlikely that you
> already would be able to give a quite accurate coordinate, for each room
> of your house. Just imagine that your bedroom is one decimal place
> closer to Equator, and that might be why you feel so warm and comfie in
> bed. Hahaha. Might sound like a joke, but reality is that given the
> right equipment, it is not totaly a dream to have such exact
> measurements. OK then, to what extent it will affect the temperature of
> your room, was a mere joke.
>
> Larry, I hope this helped you a bit. On the website I refered you to,
> they have a bit more info on the coordinates. And if you want even more
> details, try looking up online dictionaries, on the terms of Longitudes
> and Latitudes.
>
> David
>
> On 2/4/2019 4:11 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>> Butch,
>>
>>
>> I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file.
>>
>>
>> Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but
>> plan to do so.
>>
>>
>> I find it kind of interesting  that if one fills in the zip code of a
>> particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a
>> particular city
>>
>> . Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part
>> >
>> Thanks so much though for your help from I'm sure all of us who wish
>> to continue using this handy little app.
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On 2/4/2019 7:48 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
>>> I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3
>>> cities in it, but you could likely edit it.
>>> 73
>>> Butch
>>> WA0VJR
>>> Node 3148
>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just
>>>> yet.  I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your
>>>> being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately
>>>> do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to
>>>> follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Amanda Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Talk
>>>> 
>>>> On Behalf Of David via Talk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
>>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>>>> Cc: David 
>>>> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>>>>
>>>> OK, guys.
>>>> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
>>>> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with
>>>> the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and
>>>> quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I
>>>> do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts
>>>> its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I
>>>> tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.
>>>>
>>>> As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file
>>>> before you modify it at all.
>>>>
>>>> OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude
>>>> coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are
>>>> trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I
>>>> found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:
>>>> https://www.latlong.net/
>>>>
>>>> When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your
>>>> city. Like:
>>>>      Toronto, On
>>>> for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
>>>> Once you h

Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread David via Talk
Of course, if anyone could provide a sample file, it would be fine.

As things stands, once you install the app, it will create its basic ini 
file. That is, it will set up its hotkeys. And the hotkeys, are the only 
part of the ini file, that I did not already cover in my description. 
All the rest of the file, however long it is, will be one or more 
locations, added as I described.

In the Locations section, you need one location line holding the label 
and coordinates for each place you want included.

You need one section, holding all settings, for each location.

Following the steps outlined, you do not really need anything from 
anywhere else, but what the app already has set up for you. The rest 
will be for you to enter manually.

Try opening your user profile folder, find the WeatherOrNot.ini file, 
and add on the lines in my earlier message. You will immediately get the 
weather conditions for the city of Toronto, Ontario in Canada. The 
example was, for the reason of being comprehendable, a real-life example.

Again, should anyone want a copy of an already working ini file, let me 
know, and I could email it to you. Or, someone could put it on their 
dropbox or the like. Just you won't find any further secrets in there, 
except from what you already have.

David

On 2/4/2019 2:48 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
> I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3 
> cities in it, but you could likely edit it.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just 
>> yet.  I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your 
>> being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately 
>> do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to 
>> follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Amanda Lee
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>>  On 
>> Behalf Of David via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Cc: David 
>> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>>
>> OK, guys.
>> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
>> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
>> WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
>> searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do 
>> have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its 
>> info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I 
>> tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.
>>
>> As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file 
>> before you modify it at all.
>>
>> OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
>> coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are 
>> trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found 
>> to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:
>> https://www.latlong.net/
>>
>> When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your 
>> city. Like:
>>     Toronto, On
>> for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
>> Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
>> Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on 
>> Browse Mode here.
>>
>> The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact 
>> city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the 
>> Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for 
>> the  Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, 
>> as will be described below.
>>
>> In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice 
>> for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for 
>> each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go 
>> to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the 
>> given info into your ini file.
>>
>> How To Modify The Ini File?
>> Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get 
>> to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will 
>> go by it, step by step.
>>
>> First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the 
>> letter E. The user profile folder will open.
>>
>> Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
>>     WeatherOrNot.ini
>> , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
>> 

Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread David via Talk
 positioning could we be?
Well, basically it all depends on how exact our measuring equipment is. 
If you told the distance between two latitude belts to be something like 
70 miles, or 112km, you could decide to only split that distance into 10 
steps, and you only would need one decimal digit in your coordinat 
values. The backside of such few steps between each major line, would of 
course be a rather lacking accuracy in your telling where to find your 
treasure. With modern GPS and other navigation equipment, we are able to 
define even down to the ten thousandth step between each longitude as 
well as between each latitude. With such keen accuracy, we are able to 
get quite exactly to the point where we are located. With GPS - which 
slightly differs in their values, you can even get to the very address 
of any house or building on earth.

Comes to our craving to know the weather condition in a city, we might 
not bother too much accuracy. As a matter of fact, I discovered that the 
WeatherOrNot app originally only had four decimals in its value, whereas 
the website I pointed you to, gives us values of 5 decimals. This 
difference matters little, when all we want to know, is the weather 
conditions in a given area. Simplifying it all, what if 4 decimals would 
give us the outer boarders of our town, whereas the 5 decimals will 
narrow it down to whether you are in the north, or in the western  part 
of the town. For most villages and towns, it would have no impact on the 
info we are looking for. Even for the biggest cities, it might not be 
too much to bother, since the weather measurements we are receiving, 
might have been taken a totally different place in town, from where you 
sit at the moment. Weather conditions might be given specifically, or as 
an average of all the measurements reported for that city. It all will 
depend on exactly what weather service the app retrieves its info from.

Just to round it all up, As modern technology develops, more and more 
decimals can be added to your positioning coordinate values - meaning 
smaller and smaller steps can be measured. It is not unlikely that you 
already would be able to give a quite accurate coordinate, for each room 
of your house. Just imagine that your bedroom is one decimal place 
closer to Equator, and that might be why you feel so warm and comfie in 
bed. Hahaha. Might sound like a joke, but reality is that given the 
right equipment, it is not totaly a dream to have such exact 
measurements. OK then, to what extent it will affect the temperature of 
your room, was a mere joke.

Larry, I hope this helped you a bit. On the website I refered you to, 
they have a bit more info on the coordinates. And if you want even more 
details, try looking up online dictionaries, on the terms of Longitudes 
and Latitudes.

David

On 2/4/2019 4:11 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> Butch,
>
>
> I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file.
>
>
> Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but 
> plan to do so.
>
>
> I find it kind of interesting  that if one fills in the zip code of a 
> particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a 
> particular city
>
> . Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part 
> 
> Thanks so much though for your help from I'm sure all of us who wish 
> to continue using this handy little app.
>
>
> Larry
>
> On 2/4/2019 7:48 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
>> I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3 
>> cities in it, but you could likely edit it.
>> 73
>> Butch
>> WA0VJR
>> Node 3148
>> Wallace, ks.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just 
>>> yet.  I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your 
>>> being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately 
>>> do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to 
>>> follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Amanda Lee
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk 
>>>  
>>> On Behalf Of David via Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: David 
>>> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>>>
>>> OK, guys.
>>> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
>>> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with 
>>> the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and 
>>> quick searchings on the net, so take them for what 

Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Butch,


I for one would appreciate seeing your weather.ini file.


Sorry David, I haven't yet had time to look at your instructions, but 
plan to do so.



I find it kind of interesting  that if one fills in the zip code of a 
particular location, that it equates to the longitude or latitude of a 
particular city


. Any ideas as to how this works, or is this a big "duh" on my part 


Thanks so much though for your help from I'm sure all of us who wish to 
continue using this handy little app.



Larry

On 2/4/2019 7:48 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3 
cities in it, but you could likely edit it.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:

Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just 
yet.  I can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your 
being so thoughtful as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately 
do have some of the coordinates for the points of interest I want to 
follow and thanks for sharing a more accessible site as well.


Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On 
Behalf Of David via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do 
have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its 
info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I 
tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.


As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file 
before you modify it at all.


OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are 
trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found 
to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:

https://www.latlong.net/

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your 
city. Like:

    Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on 
Browse Mode here.


The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact 
city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the 
Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for 
the  Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, 
as will be described below.


In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice 
for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for 
each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go 
to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the 
given info into your ini file.


How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get 
to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will 
go by it, step by step.


First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the 
letter E. The user profile folder will open.


Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
    WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out 
all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they 
are all important.


In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
    [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. 
You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To 
keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify 
it to your personal location:
    Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, 
please note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the 
location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give 
it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we 
will be using it in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from 
the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space 
character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other 
punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative 
values, exactly copied from the website.


Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on 
to the next modification of the ini file.

Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for

RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I could put up my weather ini file if that would help.  Mine has 3 
cities in it, but you could likely edit it.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Amanda Lee 
via Talk wrote:



Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just yet.  I 
can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your being so thoughtful 
as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately do have some of the coordinates 
for the points of interest I want to follow and thanks for sharing a more 
accessible site as well.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings 
on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly 
where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do 
your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave 
me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you 
modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, 
in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a 
few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with 
WinEyes:
https://www.latlong.net/

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like:
Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode 
here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or 
place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the 
page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude and Latitude. 
Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the 
city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would 
simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives 
you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real 
job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The 
user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all 
important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
[Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have 
a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our 
above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal 
location:
Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please 
note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are 
entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep 
track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. 
First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the 
Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be 
given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website.

Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the 
next modification of the ini file.
Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new 
location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will 
read to you.

A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in 
brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the 
left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character 
sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In 
our example, it will look like this:
[Toronto, ontario]
. Press Enter when you are done.

Now that we have established the section, it is time to set it all up.
The section should

RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Thanks for this.  I don't have a .ini from a prior installation just yet.  I 
can follow this syntax just fine though and appreciate your being so thoughtful 
as to how to code these entries.  I fortunately do have some of the coordinates 
for the points of interest I want to follow and thanks for sharing a more 
accessible site as well.  

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings 
on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly 
where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do 
your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave 
me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you 
modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, 
in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a 
few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with 
WinEyes:
https://www.latlong.net/

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like:
 Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode 
here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or 
place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the 
page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude and Latitude. 
Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the 
city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would 
simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives 
you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real 
job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The 
user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
 WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all 
important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
 [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have 
a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our 
above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal 
location:
 Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please 
note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are 
entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep 
track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. 
First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the 
Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be 
given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website.

Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the 
next modification of the ini file.
Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new 
location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will 
read to you.

A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in 
brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the 
left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character 
sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In 
our example, it will look like this:
 [Toronto, ontario]
. Press Enter when you are done.

Now that we have established the section, it is time to set it all up. 
The section should hold four fields. They are placed on individual lines, their 
name spelled all in lower-cases, and ends with an Equal sign, and your wanted 
setting. Lets get to them one by one.

name=
Here enter

Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread David via Talk
OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have 
no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so 
you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the 
following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file 
before you modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying 
to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be 
fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:
https://www.latlong.net/

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your 
city. Like:
     Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse 
Mode here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city 
or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button 
on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude 
and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be 
described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for 
the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each 
city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the 
text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info 
into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to 
the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by 
it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter 
E. The user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
     WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are 
all important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
     [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You 
now have a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To 
keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it 
to your personal location:
     Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710
. To break this line down, please note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location 
we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as 
you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it 
in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the 
website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and 
then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The 
coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly 
copied from the website.

Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to 
the next modification of the ini file.
Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for 
your new location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info 
the app will read to you.

A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in 
brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to 
the left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and 
character sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your 
location line. In our example, it will look like this:
     [Toronto, ontario]
. Press Enter when you are done.

Now that we have established the section, it is time to set it all up. 
The section should hold four fields. They are placed on individual 
lines, their name spelled all in lower-cases, and ends with an Equal 
sign, and your wanted setting. Lets get to them one by one.

name=
Here enter the name of the location, that you want read out to you, 
whenever you press the hotkey. It could be the city name, or some kind 
of an alias - like home, work, grandma's place, or whatever. Our example 
line could be:
     name=Toronto
or,
     Name=Big city of Canada.
Please note, that you can use a mix of upper- and lower-cased 
characters, along with normal punctuation (except from the Equal sign), 
or even numbers - in your string here.

temp=
Behind the Equal sign, enter a lower-cased c, for Celcius; or a 
lowercased f, for having the 

RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
NVDA does have a version of Eloquence that you can buy from Code factory. I am 
using the SAPI 5 version of Eloquence.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 12:12 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Cc: Larry Higgins
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

Thanks Lloyd, however, I am  just a real devotee of my Eloquence Reed voice.



On 2/3/2019 1:11 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
> If you are using Windows 10, you can use NVDA with the new OneCore 
> voices from Microsoft. Not quite as responsive as ESpeak, but the 
> David desktop or mobile voice is not bad, in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:39 AM
> To: Rod Hutton via Talk
> Cc: Larry Higgins
> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>
> Sure looks like I might be quickly approaching that point. I still need
> to purchase a license for Eloquence, then I might really begin to tackle
> it. Right now, I am able to read my Bookshare books quite well with IE
> and WE to my satisfaction, so guess not in the biggest hurry, but I'm
> beginning to feel the heat .
>
> On 2/3/2019 7:42 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called 
>> Weather Plus.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>>  On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
>> To: Loy Green via Talk 
>> Cc: Larry Higgins 
>> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>>
>> That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no
>> longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess
>> this is only the beginning .
>>
>> On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
>>> I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have 
>>> previously entered still work.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>>> Cc: Larry Higgins
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Weather or not issue
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a 
>>> solution for
>>> my problem, but here goes anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to 
>>> my list
>>> of weather conditions around the country, but when either 
>>> entering the
>>> city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying 
>>> something
>>> along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that 
>>> nature.
>>> It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get 
>>> the same
>>> error message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully,
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> ___
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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Thanks Lloyd, however, I am  just a real devotee of my Eloquence Reed voice.



On 2/3/2019 1:11 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
If you are using Windows 10, you can use NVDA with the new OneCore 
voices from Microsoft. Not quite as responsive as ESpeak, but the 
David desktop or mobile voice is not bad, in my opinion.




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http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:39 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Cc: Larry Higgins
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

Sure looks like I might be quickly approaching that point. I still need
to purchase a license for Eloquence, then I might really begin to tackle
it. Right now, I am able to read my Bookshare books quite well with IE
and WE to my satisfaction, so guess not in the biggest hurry, but I'm
beginning to feel the heat .

On 2/3/2019 7:42 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Larry,

If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called 
Weather Plus.


Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On Behalf 
Of Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
To: Loy Green via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no
longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess
this is only the beginning .

On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have 
previously entered still work.

    - Original Message -
    From: Larry Higgins via Talk
    To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
    Cc: Larry Higgins
    Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
    Subject: Weather or not issue


    OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a 
solution for

    my problem, but here goes anyway.


    Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to 
my list
    of weather conditions around the country, but when either 
entering the
    city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying 
something
    along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that 
nature.
    It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get 
the same

    error message.


    Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.


    Hopefully,


    Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Hello Rod, hope you are doing well.  Where do I get the nvda add on.  I 
jump back and forth between window-eyes and nvda,  flat r refuse to use 
jaws.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:


Hi Larry,

If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called Weather 
Plus.

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
To: Loy Green via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no
longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess
this is only the beginning .

On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:

I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously entered 
still work.
   - Original Message -
   From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Cc: Larry Higgins
   Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
   Subject: Weather or not issue


   OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for
   my problem, but here goes anyway.


   Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
   of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
   city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
   along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that nature.
   It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
   error message.


   Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.


   Hopefully,


   Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Lloyd,

Thanks.  I was not aware of this, and so it was good to learn this.

All the best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: February 3, 2019 2:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

If you are using Windows 10, you can use NVDA with the new OneCore voices 
from Microsoft. Not quite as responsive as ESpeak, but the David desktop or 
mobile voice is not bad, in my opinion.



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-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:39 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Cc: Larry Higgins
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

Sure looks like I might be quickly approaching that point. I still need
to purchase a license for Eloquence, then I might really begin to tackle
it. Right now, I am able to read my Bookshare books quite well with IE
and WE to my satisfaction, so guess not in the biggest hurry, but I'm
beginning to feel the heat .

On 2/3/2019 7:42 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called 
> Weather Plus.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On 
> Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
> To: Loy Green via Talk 
> Cc: Larry Higgins 
> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>
> That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no
> longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess
> this is only the beginning .
>
> On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
>> I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously 
>> entered still work.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Cc: Larry Higgins
>> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Weather or not issue
>>
>>
>> OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution 
>> for
>> my problem, but here goes anyway.
>>
>>
>> Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my 
>> list
>> of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering 
>> the
>> city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying 
>> something
>> along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that 
>> nature.
>> It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the 
>> same
>> error message.
>>
>>
>> Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.
>>
>>
>> Hopefully,
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
If you are using Windows 10, you can use NVDA with the new OneCore voices 
from Microsoft. Not quite as responsive as ESpeak, but the David desktop or 
mobile voice is not bad, in my opinion.




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-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:39 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Cc: Larry Higgins
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

Sure looks like I might be quickly approaching that point. I still need
to purchase a license for Eloquence, then I might really begin to tackle
it. Right now, I am able to read my Bookshare books quite well with IE
and WE to my satisfaction, so guess not in the biggest hurry, but I'm
beginning to feel the heat .

On 2/3/2019 7:42 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Larry,

If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called 
Weather Plus.


Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
To: Loy Green via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no
longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess
this is only the beginning .

On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously 
entered still work.

- Original Message -
From: Larry Higgins via Talk
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Larry Higgins
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: Weather or not issue


OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution 
for

my problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my 
list
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering 
the
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying 
something
along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that 
nature.
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the 
same

error message.


Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Sure looks like I might be quickly approaching that point. I still need 
to purchase a license for Eloquence, then I might really begin to tackle 
it. Right now, I am able to read my Bookshare books quite well with IE 
and WE to my satisfaction, so guess not in the biggest hurry, but I'm 
beginning to feel the heat .


On 2/3/2019 7:42 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Larry,

If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called Weather 
Plus.

Hth,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
To: Loy Green via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no
longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess
this is only the beginning .

On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:

I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously entered 
still work.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Higgins via Talk
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Larry Higgins
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: Weather or not issue


OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for
my problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that nature.
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
error message.


Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Larry,

If you're open to using NVDA, there is a similar add-on for it called Weather 
Plus.

Hth,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: February 3, 2019 8:30 AM
To: Loy Green via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no 
longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess 
this is only the beginning .

On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
> I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously entered 
> still work.
>- Original Message -
>From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>Cc: Larry Higgins
>Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
>Subject: Weather or not issue
>
>
>OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for
>my problem, but here goes anyway.
>
>
>Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
>of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
>city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
>along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that nature.
>It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
>error message.
>
>
>Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.
>
>
>Hopefully,
>
>
>Larry
>
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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
That's what happens here as well. I'm absolutely certain that I no 
longer have an old .ini file to take potential advantage of. So, guess 
this is only the beginning .


On 2/3/2019 6:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:

I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously entered 
still work.
   - Original Message -
   From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Cc: Larry Higgins
   Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
   Subject: Weather or not issue


   OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for
   my problem, but here goes anyway.


   Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
   of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
   city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
   along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that nature.
   It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
   error message.


   Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.


   Hopefully,


   Larry

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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-03 Thread Loy Green via Talk
I am getting the same here, however the cities that I have previously entered 
still work.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Higgins via Talk 
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Cc: Larry Higgins 
  Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
  Subject: Weather or not issue


  OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for 
  my problem, but here goes anyway.


  Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list 
  of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the 
  city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something 
  along the lines of "can't fine the city," or something of that nature. 
  It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same 
  error message.


  Is this a permanent issue, or might there be a solution.


  Hopefully,


  Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-02 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Good idea as I may have a copy on another Win 7 computer which I can copy from.


-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 12:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: Weather or not issue

Hi Larry,

I have the current versions of GW Toolkit, 8.6.8, as well as Weather or Not, 
4.0.0.
The app is working fine for me, giving me my current weather conditions.
I tried adding your city, but I get the same error as you.
I have tried looking at the code of the app, in the hope of determining and 
possibly changing the weather information server it uses.
Unfortunately, the app is encrypted, making it impossible to do anything with 
it.
Given that I can confirm that the app works, I can only suggest that if you 
ever used the app to get your local weather, see if you can find an old backup 
copy of the Weather Or Not ini file, and paste it into the Profile folder.
The file you need is named weatherornot.ini, and, before pasting it into the 
Profiles folder, you should probably rename the current one to something like 
weatherornot.ini.current.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Weather or not issue

OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for my 
problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list 
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the 
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something 
along the lines of "can't  fine the city," or something of that nature. 
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same 
error message.


Is this a permanent issue,  or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-02 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Larry,

I have the current versions of GW Toolkit, 8.6.8, as well as Weather or Not, 
4.0.0.
The app is working fine for me, giving me my current weather conditions.
I tried adding your city, but I get the same error as you.
I have tried looking at the code of the app, in the hope of determining and 
possibly changing the weather information server it uses.
Unfortunately, the app is encrypted, making it impossible to do anything with 
it.
Given that I can confirm that the app works, I can only suggest that if you 
ever used the app to get your local weather, see if you can find an old backup 
copy of the Weather Or Not ini file, and paste it into the Profile folder.
The file you need is named weatherornot.ini, and, before pasting it into the 
Profiles folder, you should probably rename the current one to something like 
weatherornot.ini.current.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Weather or not issue

OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for 
my problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list 
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the 
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something 
along the lines of "can't  fine the city," or something of that nature. 
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same 
error message.


Is this a permanent issue,  or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-02 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Well Amanda, I just found my zipped file of WE apps, installed the 
GWToolkit, closed out WE, started it up again, and still no go. I'm not 
sure of the date on this on either, but it's all I've got available to 
me. As far as I know, this is the latest.





On 2/2/2019 2:59 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:

I'm referring to the GwToolkit


The files unfortunately take on the current date in my windows 10 system so
I am not certain of their original dates.


My file for Weather or not

-Original Message-
From: Talk
 On Behalf
Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 3:04 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

My Weatherornot files are from May 6 of 2016. Or are you talking about the
GWToolkit?



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
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From: Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 2:31 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Amanda Lee
Subject: RE: Weather or not issue

I have exactly the same issue after reinstalling window-Eyes.  Weather Or
Not does require GW Toolkit.  I notice in the About info, that it says it's
from 2008.  I wonder if this is the correct version?  If not,then hope I can

find the appropriate one somewhere.  I really miss this App too!

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


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Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
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Subject: Weather or not issue

OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for my
problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
along the lines of "can't  fine the city," or something of that nature.
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
error message.


Is this a permanent issue,  or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-02 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
I'm referring to the GwToolkit


The files unfortunately take on the current date in my windows 10 system so
I am not certain of their original dates.


My file for Weather or not 

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Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

My Weatherornot files are from May 6 of 2016. Or are you talking about the
GWToolkit?



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 2:31 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Amanda Lee
Subject: RE: Weather or not issue

I have exactly the same issue after reinstalling window-Eyes.  Weather Or 
Not does require GW Toolkit.  I notice in the About info, that it says it's 
from 2008.  I wonder if this is the correct version?  If not,then hope I can

find the appropriate one somewhere.  I really miss this App too!

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On Behalf

Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Weather or not issue

OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for my 
problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
along the lines of "can't  fine the city," or something of that nature.
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
error message.


Is this a permanent issue,  or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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Re: Weather or not issue

2019-02-02 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
My Weatherornot files are from May 6 of 2016. Or are you talking about the 
GWToolkit?




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Amanda Lee via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 2:31 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Amanda Lee
Subject: RE: Weather or not issue

I have exactly the same issue after reinstalling window-Eyes.  Weather Or 
Not does require GW Toolkit.  I notice in the About info, that it says it's 
from 2008.  I wonder if this is the correct version?  If not,then hope I can 
find the appropriate one somewhere.  I really miss this App too!


Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On Behalf 
Of Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Weather or not issue

OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for my 
problem, but here goes anyway.



Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something
along the lines of "can't  fine the city," or something of that nature.
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same
error message.


Is this a permanent issue,  or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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RE: Weather or not issue

2019-02-02 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
I have exactly the same issue after reinstalling window-Eyes.  Weather Or Not 
does require GW Toolkit.  I notice in the About info, that it says it's from 
2008.  I wonder if this is the correct version?  If not,then hope I can find 
the appropriate one somewhere.  I really miss this App too!

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee


-Original Message-
From: Talk  
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:44 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Weather or not issue

OK, I'm probably not ging to get any good news regarding a solution for my 
problem, but here goes anyway.


Just yesterday, I decided I would like to add Albuquerque, NM to my list 
of weather conditions around the country, but when either entering the 
city, state, and country, or zip code, I get a message saying something 
along the lines of "can't  fine the city," or something of that nature. 
It doesn't matter just what city or zip code I type in, I get the same 
error message.


Is this a permanent issue,  or might there be a solution.


Hopefully,


Larry

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