Hello,
I see a lot of frustration with routing not working when there are
gates involved. In particular when the gate is in the middle of a
public road (residential). This is because a gate with no access tags
implies that nothing can go through. By contrast, most highway types
let some type of tr
On 19/09/2010 14:37, Nic Roets wrote:
This is because a gate with no access tags
implies that nothing can go through.
It wouldn't to me - no access tags on the gate would imply to me that
nothing had been recorded about whether it was normally open or closed,
or locked so that it couldn't be
On 19/09/2010 14:37, Nic Roets wrote:
For example, much of this service road is cut off.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.2214151&lon=18.7401969&zoom=18
Part of the problem in this example, is that barrier=gate is tagged on
the intersection. So its not clear whether the gate is across the
2010/9/19 SomeoneElse :
> On 19/09/2010 14:37, Nic Roets wrote:
>>
>> This is because a gate with no access tags
>> implies that nothing can go through.
>
> It wouldn't to me - no access tags on the gate would imply to me that
> nothing had been recorded
I agree with Andy here: no tags = no info
Nic Roets wrote:
> This is because a gate with no access tags
> implies that nothing can go through.
Where on earth do you get that idea from?
barrier=gate states that there's a gate. The thing about gates, as opposed
to (say) walls, is that you can open them to get through.
Here are some pictu
2010/9/19 Richard Fairhurst :
> barrier=gate states that there's a gate. The thing about gates, as opposed
> to (say) walls, is that you can open them to get through.
> Here are some pictures if I haven't explained it clearly enough:
> http://www.artlondon.com/photogallery/images/wellmann/Open-gate
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst
wrote:
> barrier=gate states that there's a gate.
Doesn't it also state that there's a barrier?
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst
> wrote:
>> barrier=gate states that there's a gate.
>
> Doesn't it also state that there's a barrier?
Nevermind. I see it is listed under "access nodes" and not "barrier nodes".
the main page lists "portals" for many different aspects of OSM. There
is also a section "data" which list the following:
Binary format · Potential Datasources · Recording GPS tracks · Making GPX Files
I would like to have [[Downloading_data]] added to this list for
usability reasons (there is als
2010/9/19 Anthony :
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst
> wrote:
>> barrier=gate states that there's a gate.
>
> Doesn't it also state that there's a barrier?
well, the simple key "barrier" doesn't actually state that there is a
barrier but that there is something "barrier-rela
I see a lot of frustration with routing not working when there are
gates involved. In particular when the gate is in the middle of a
public road (residential). This is because a gate with no access tags
implies that nothing can go through.
This question has been in the back of my mind, for exam
On 19.09.2010 17:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/9/19 Anthony:
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst
wrote:
barrier=gate states that there's a gate.
Doesn't it also state that there's a barrier?
well, the simple key "barrier" doesn't actually state that there is a
barrier
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>
> Nic Roets wrote:
>> This is because a gate with no access tags
>> implies that nothing can go through.
>
> Where on earth do you get that idea from?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier
in the sidebar under 'implies'
And AF
Nic Roets wrote:
>> Nic Roets wrote:
>>> This is because a gate with no access tags
>>> implies that nothing can go through.
>> Where on earth do you get that idea from?
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier
>in the sidebar under 'implies'
>And AFAIK that rule goes back to 2008.
Wow. Th
Hi,
Here is a website to share routes. It uses OpenStreetMap tiles map as a
background.
http://osm-syj.crans.org/
It can be used to show clever bicycle rides, your last hiking, or any route
you want to show.
I had already presented it to this mailing list in july:
http://www.mail-archive.com/
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 06:25:52PM +0200, arno wrote:
> Hi,
> Here is a website to share routes. It uses OpenStreetMap tiles map as a
> background.
>
> http://osm-syj.crans.org/
Very nice result!
Just some wording for the welcome popup:
To create a journey you need to click "start a route", no
On Sunday 19 September 2010 16:33:07 Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Nic Roets wrote:
> > This is because a gate with no access tags
> > implies that nothing can go through.
>
> Where on earth do you get that idea from?
>
> barrier=gate states that there's a gate. The thing about gates, as opposed
> to
Hi,
Cartinus wrote:
I always tag gates with the assumption that I don't have to tag who they keep
out, but only who they let through.
Fair enough, but still I think it is far-fetched to assume that an
un-tagged gate will be closed to all.
When I map and I see a gate that is open but of whic
Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010, à 20:12:07 +0200, Niccolo a écrit :
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 06:25:52PM +0200, arno wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Here is a website to share routes. It uses OpenStreetMap tiles map as a
> > background.
> >
> > http://osm-syj.crans.org/
>
> Very nice result!
thanks :)
> Ju
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> It's probably just as well the wiki documents, not defines. And given the
> vast preponderance of highway=gate nodes within (say) highway=footway ways,
> the wiki docs look pretty unambiguously wrong.
So to obtain a definition of barrier
Nic Roets wrote:
So to obtain a definition of barrier=gate, you want me to do the
following
No, I want you to follow Ben Laenen's excellent posting which was much
more succinct and clear than I could ever be.
Follow-ups to tagg...@.
Richard
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> You cannot make the mapper responsible for deciding whether or not a car, or
> bicycle, routing can go through a barrier; he might not know. Treating all
> un-tagged gates as access=no will lead to mappers entering bogus access tags
> (or no
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Charalampos Alexopoulos
wrote:
> Hi
> Yes. The aerial images are published under (CC BY v.3.0).
> You can read the license here.
What's the URL for the aerial images, so people can check that it is
indeed under that licence?
Steve
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