Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

sets for later use. Nick From: Nick Whitelegg Sent: 29 June 2020 10:03 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary Something else which might be of interest to contributors to this thread, from

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Something else which might be of interest to contributors to this thread, from the software side of things: For OpenTrailView I am collaborating with the TrekView project (trekview.org) which aims to make it easy for people to take 360 panoramas of all walking trails, and other off-road

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 10:48 PM Mark Wagner wrote: > Distributed storage is one of those things that sounds good, but > nobody's figured out how to make it actually work well. I also wonder about privacy and security in a distributed system. Will the distributed system only contain the blurred

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:01:57 +0200 "Marc M." wrote: > Le 26.06.20 à 14:09, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > >> I don't care about SLA. Does OSM have SLA? > > The point is when you distribute your storage to people at > > home we will have at most 10% of images online all the time. > > what facts

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

In addition, there are several pieces that can be used as building blocks: 1. Federated / self hosted systems such email, newsgroups, RSS etc. Can be used, perhaps using something similar to DHT that can be used to locate images. 2. Bittorrent, webtorrent or a similar system can be used to spread

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Le 26.06.20 à 14:09, Florian Lohoff a écrit : >> I don't care about SLA. Does OSM have SLA? > The point is when you distribute your storage to people at > home we will have at most 10% of images online all the time. what facts are you basing that number on ? The worst internet connection I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 01:23:05PM +0200, Marc M. wrote: > Hello, > with this in mind 20k€/year for storage is one to explore. > distributed storage, too. > > I don't care about SLA. Does OSM have SLA? > No, we're doing the best we can. The point is when you distribute your storage to people at

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Hello, Le 26.06.20 à 12:42, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > this is NOT a trivial no one said it is trivial, or it would be over by now. but some of us try more positive alternatives than "sitting down and doing nothing because it's impossible". maybe it will succeed, maybe it will only be 1/10th of

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 05:25:28PM +0200, Marc M. wrote: > Le 25.06.20 à 16:16, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > > Mapillary themselves say on their web pages that they already > > have 1,199,363,907 images. Thats 3515625 GB or 3.5TB Data > > assuming 3MByte per image. > > 3 500 000 GB ~ 3 500 TB ~

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

-source software that others could also use in small-scale situations. Nick From: Marc M. Sent: 25 June 2020 16:25 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary Le 25.06.20 à 16:16, Florian Lohoff

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Le 25.06.20 à 16:16, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > Mapillary themselves say on their web pages that they already > have 1,199,363,907 images. Thats 3515625 GB or 3.5TB Data > assuming 3MByte per image. 3 500 000 GB ~ 3 500 TB ~ 3.5 PB ? ~100k€ ~100k$ hardware cost for the storage. or 1000 people

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Hola, On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:46:16PM -0700, Mark Wagner wrote: > Serious funding? Yes. Outrageous funding? No. > > Rough estimate: > > * The CIA World Factbook says there are about 64 000 000 km of roads in > the world. > * Google Street View takes 100 photos per km. > * A photosphere

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

> * The CIA World Factbook says there are about 64 000 000 km of roads in > the world. > * Google Street View takes 100 photos per km. > * A photosphere from my tablet, compressed using WebP at 50% quality > takes 2.7 MB. I doubt the CIA number takes into account paths and tracks. Mapillary

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Le 20.06.20 à 12:28, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > Were you not aware that your contributions to OSM, and Mapilary, are > already under an open licence, which allows anyone - including > Facebook - to reuse them, even commercially? having the right to download images is not at all the same thing as,

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 23:45:57 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi Nick, > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47:01AM +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > > > (Disclaimer: I am the developer of said project) > > > > You can login using your OSM account. > > The issue is that once you start pushing stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 23:45, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Great. How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as we > can throw it? Very little. Were you not aware that your contributions to OSM, and Mapilary, are already under an open licence, which allows anyone - including

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Whitelegg Cc: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary Hi Nick, On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47:01AM +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > (Disclaimer: I am the developer of said project) > > You can login using your OSM account. The issue is that on

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Hi Nick, On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47:01AM +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > (Disclaimer: I am the developer of said project) > > You can login using your OSM account. The issue is that once you start pushing stuff into any projects your storage expenses will kill you pretty fast.

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Hola, On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 03:17:31PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > Openstreetcam is pretty much "disfunct" from my perspective. There are > > tons of bugs people opened because of their tracks not beeing > > processing. Same for me. Twitter feed dead for a year. It looks pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Hi, Am 19/06/2020 um 16.06 schrieb Simon Poole: > In any case doing that from scratch would be a real pain. I believe the > OSC stack is now actually all OSS which would be a far better starting > point -if- sustainable funding could be built around the whole thing. I looked at the GitHub

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Sent: 19 June 2020 15:06 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary Am 19.06.2020 um 13:47 schrieb Nick Whitelegg: (Disclaimer: I am the developer of said project) One of the key functionalities required for such a project

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

ohoff > *Sent:* 19 June 2020 07:58 > *To:* Niels Elgaard Larsen > *Cc:* talk@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping > company Mapillary >   > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:21:59AM +0200, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > Pa

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

to Mapillary and others, then I'm quite happy to take street panoramas. Nick From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: 19 June 2020 12:56 To: Nick Whitelegg Cc: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary sent from

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Might want to refine your searching skills: https://github.com/openstreetcam/openstreetcam.org/issues/254 On Fri., Jun. 19, 2020, 9:21 a.m. Mateusz Konieczny via talk, < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Jun 19, 2020, 08:58 by f...@zz.de: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:21:59AM +0200, Niels

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Jun 19, 2020, 08:58 by f...@zz.de: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:21:59AM +0200, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > >> Paul Johnson: >> > Great.  How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as >> > we can throw it? >> >> >> Use openstreetcam >> > > Openstreetcam is pretty much

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

sent from a phone > On 19. Jun 2020, at 13:51, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > Those of you looking for 100% FOSS software and who are focused on 360 degree > photography of off-road routes (walking trails and so on) might want to > consider OpenTrailView (https://opentrailview.org). has it a

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

07:58 To: Niels Elgaard Larsen Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:21:59AM +0200, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Paul Johnson: > > Great. How's this affect those of us who trust Faceb

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:21:59AM +0200, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Paul Johnson: > > Great.  How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as we > > can throw it? > > > Use openstreetcam Openstreetcam is pretty much "disfunct" from my perspective. There are tons of bugs

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Openstreetcam was transferred to grab taxi, images have stopped processing and devs say they are working on back end but project seems dead On Thu., Jun. 18, 2020, 7:27 p.m. Paul Johnson, wrote: > Doesn't OpenStreetCam have similar corporate ownership problems, with the > additional problematic

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

+ Jan's diary post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jesolem/diary/393358 On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 09:22, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Thanks for the heads up. > > They’ve also posted a blog post about it: > https://blog.mapillary.com/news/2020/06/18/Mapillary-joins-Facebook.html > > Supposedly no

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Doesn't OpenStreetCam have similar corporate ownership problems, with the additional problematic aspect that the toolchain's been neglected since Telenav cut 'em loose? On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:23 PM Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Paul Johnson: > > Great. How's this affect those of us who

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Paul Johnson: > Great.  How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as we > can throw it? Use openstreetcam Start downloading all you images from Mapillary, if you did not keep a copy- But I think most important, use existing Mapillary photos to improve OSM with speed

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Thanks for the heads up. They’ve also posted a blog post about it: https://blog.mapillary.com/news/2020/06/18/Mapillary-joins-Facebook.html Supposedly no change from a mapping perspective. Commercial use now allowed for

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Thanks for sharing this Sérgio. -jeff -- Jeff McKenna MapServer Consulting and Training Services co-founder of FOSS4G http://gatewaygeo.com/ On 2020-06-18 7:32 p.m., Sérgio V. wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Great. How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as we can throw it? On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM Sérgio V. wrote: > > https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-deals-mapillary/facebook-acquires-crowdsourced-mapping-company-mapillary-idUKKBN23P3N6 > > > - - - - - - - -