Re: [Tango-L] Juan D'Arienzo -- Still the King

2007-12-17 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
Thanks for the post, Janis (and for others as well). Here's a direct link for Pedro Ochoa's article: http://www.10tango.com/interior/detalle_nota.php?idx=161seccion=4 ...dubravko === seek, appreciate, and create beauty this life is not a rehearsal

[Tango-L] Juan D'Arienzo -- 3 Stops for Embellishments

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
Here's something great to practice to D'Arienzo, and then, apply it to any faster music One day, I was commenting, to my partner, that Lorena, of The Osvaldo Zotto Lorena instructional tapes, was such a phenominal dancer. She said, Oh, no, no! Go back and look closer. It is him!

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys

2007-12-17 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
On 12/16/07, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this was possibly during a time period when keys were more of the skeletal type. I'm not familiar with the history of locks, but this type probably may not have fit in pockets comfortably. Based on the footage that I've

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys

2007-12-17 Thread steve pastor
On Thursday the 13th Mario requested tips on Close embrace in close quarters. I have yet to see a sinlge response. Meanwhile, there have been more than 20 responses in the Boleo Contra-boleo thread. I guess this speaks volumes about the interests of our on line community. Tango

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower

2007-12-17 Thread Alexis Cousein
Tango For Her wrote: 1. If you are so sure your partner would walk away from you if you meantioned thinking of the floor as a canvas and her as a brush, how about taking on a little homework and ask her! We would love to hear alot of opinions on this. I asked my regular dance

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys

2007-12-17 Thread Keith
The obvious answer Steve is ... lead the way. What Mario actually asked was which Tango sequences (patterns) can be danced in close embrace ... as I want to spend my time learning/practising only those patterns ... If anyone had attempted to provide such information, he would have been

Re: [Tango-L] Close embrace in close quarters.

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
Mario, I would love to elaborate on the topic of close embrace in close quarters, but, don't have the time at the moment. At 3 months, horray for the patterns. But, you might know, by now, that patterns don't do you much good on crowded dance floors. So, here's an exercise to

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
Hehe. I don't hold any patents! I have to agree, in part. I can dance with a woman who is heavier (in weight), but dances light as a feather. She must have learned that somewhere! I know, from classes, that dancing with a man, again heavier in weight, and just leading something

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
Cool! All women are different! And, there's no definition that says that I am right! So, try the exercise and don't tell her! :o) Oh, and if she says anything about your dancing after that, let us know! Is this how they made Days of Our Lives? ;o) Alexis Cousein [EMAIL

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
Hello, again, Keith! Add in! Teachers fill their classes by teaching patterns. It is a necessary evil. But, in time, everyone must learn that ballroom is patterns and Argentine tango (well, except for show tango and coreography) is not. Tango is in the body, not the patterns

[Tango-L] Tango CD/iTunes collection recommendation?

2007-12-17 Thread KUROSAKA Teruhiko
I was asked by someone who just started tango what tango songs he should be listening to. But I don't have a good recommendation; I myself bought tango CDs pretty randomly and my collection still lacks many of the popular songs I hear at milongas. Can anyone recommend a few compilation CDs,

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys Clasico vs. Nuevo

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
To difuse this a bit ... How do you make money in tango? Give what people want! The trick to filling your classroom AND keep them coming is to keep the attention of the intermediate and advanced leaders. Any teacher knows that! Intermediate dancers want to learn tricks and

Re: [Tango-L] Tango CD/iTunes collection recommendation?

2007-12-17 Thread Igor Polk
Dear Kuro http://www.virtuar.com/tango/articles/2006/orchestras.htm Igor Polk I was asked by someone who just started tango what tango songs he should be listening to. But I don't have a good recommendation; I myself bought tango CDs pretty randomly and my collection still lacks many of the

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys Clasico vs. Nuevo

2007-12-17 Thread Tom Stermitz
On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Tango For Her wrote: To difuse this a bit ... How do you make money in tango? Give what people want! The trick to filling your classroom AND keep them coming is to keep the attention of the intermediate and advanced leaders. Any teacher knows that!

Re: [Tango-L] Tango CD/iTunes collection recommendation?

2007-12-17 Thread KUROSAKA Teruhiko
Thank you, Igor, for sharing your recommendation. Some people also gave me pointers to these web pages: http://www.tejastango.com/tango_music_beginning.html http://www.tejastango.com/tango_music_collection.html -- KUROSAKA Teruhiko (Kuro), San Francisco, California, USA

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys

2007-12-17 Thread steve pastor
The answer will emphasize steps, weight changes, and several steps strung together, all of which can be danced pretty much in place. If anyone wants to flame me for writing about several steps strung together, I can take the heat. Meanwhile, Mario will, I think, appreciate any advice,

[Tango-L] THE UPPER BODY COUNTER-POSITIONING

2007-12-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Sighe
When we walk, going about our daily occupations, we don't have to be aware of what our body is doing, in order for us to go from point A to point B. The truth is that our body executes a series of automatic movements to maintain us balanced, so that we can walk and not fall down, between our

[Tango-L] [OT] Men|Women|Dancing Ability [WAS Re: Don't blame your follower]

2007-12-17 Thread Carol Shepherd
Interesting. I get to the same conclusion (boys weren't encouraged to develop dance skills) but by a different explanation. Huck Kennedy wrote: Now let's get to the truth of the matter--any advantage women have in dancing comes from their being shunted off to dance class at an

Re: [Tango-L] Tango CD/iTunes collection recommendation?

2007-12-17 Thread Andreas Wichter
Hello Kuro, have a look at Mike Lavocah´s site: http://www.milonga.co.uk/ and check out advice. Andreas ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] [OT] Men|Women|Dancing Ability [WAS Re: Don't blame your follower]

2007-12-17 Thread steve pastor
And they cringe when they see the guys on 'Dancing With The Stars' wearing spandex and gliding around...no matter how masterful and powerful the dancing might be. And rightly so. But maybe not for the same reasons as I do, which is an almost complete lack of musicality, and absolutely

Re: [Tango-L] [OT] Men|Women|Dancing Ability [WAS Re: Don't blame your follower]

2007-12-17 Thread doug
steve The song used in the Gap commercial was swing, not blues. Music for The Gap Khaki Swing comes from Louis Primaâ??s swing number, â??Jump, Jive anâ?? Wailâ??, performed by Brian Setzer and Orchestra. /steve Wait. Way off topic, but I have to “jump” into this. Prima did not play swing,

[Tango-L] Music recommendation and a little history.

2007-12-17 Thread Crrtango
Sometimes it is difficult to find really good compilations, but some of the suggestions have been very good. It is just as difficult finding a good representative (and danceable) CD of one particular artist. Until one learns about the music, it can be daunting and often disappointing to take a

[Tango-L] [OT] jump blues [WAS OT Men|Women|Dancing Ability [WAS Re: Don't blame your follower]

2007-12-17 Thread Carol Shepherd
Hi Steve, we could get into an even-further off-topic discussion about quote-unquote swing music (swing is a verb, not a noun. there is no such thing as swing music -Paul Whiteman). It would sound exactly like a spat about competing tango orchestra styling in the Golden Era. Those of us

Re: [Tango-L] [OT][OT][OT] Prima

2007-12-17 Thread Carol Shepherd
Too late Doug! My nitpick to your nitpick to Steve's nitpick to my off-topic post is that Prima was active in ALL eras and jazz genres from 20's to 70's. Prima's versatility, sheer creative output and musical longevity are directly comparable to Piazzola. (shameless attempt at topic

Re: [Tango-L] Tango CD/iTunes collection recommendation?

2007-12-17 Thread Victor Bennetts
I really like the compilations from dym like: http://www.danzaymovimiento.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=90681003001 I think at least some of these would be on iTunes. I bought a few of the dym compilations through Amazon a couple of years ago when I didn't own much tango music and

Re: [Tango-L] Don't blame your follower ...keys Clasico vs. Nuevo

2007-12-17 Thread Tango For Her
Nuevo tango is cool. I, myself, found incredible success in soft tango. So, I try to pass along as much as I can. I observed that teachers that go out and find complicated patterns have that added component that I believe it takes to keep the longterm attention of leaders. I didn't say it

Re: [Tango-L] the best teachers in the world (previously - Don't blame your follower)

2007-12-17 Thread Victor Bennetts
I am interested in what makes someone one of the 'best teachers in the world'. To my way of thinking, that is a pretty big claim and who you regard as the *best teacher in the world* would be influenced by the way you like to dance and also highly personal things like whether the particular

Re: [Tango-L] Close embrace question vs boleos question

2007-12-17 Thread Victor Bennetts
I think the difference in numbers of posts is perfectly understandable. This is a natural result of the relative difficulty of answering the questions. Defining boleos and contra boleos is relatively easy. Actually doing them well is considerably more difficult. It's a bit like cricket. There

[Tango-L] Susana El Pial -- 15 years

2007-12-17 Thread Janis Kenyon
A few years ago a documentary film was made about Susana Minana and her milonga in Salon El Pial in Flores. This past Sunday was her 15th anniversary--not a small accomplishment for this tiny woman in her 70s. All I can say is that she's a real firecracker. She greets everyone--all 400+

Re: [Tango-L] Steps for close embrace in close quarters

2007-12-17 Thread Jay Rabe
Ok, what the heck. I'll jump in. Steps/sequences for a beginner to do in close embrace on crowded dancefloors: First, the standby, walk. Just walk, with pauses and timing of step placement playing with the music to keep your partner interested. Second, walk in cross-foot, with the follower