Here is a reference in the archive to head snaps:
http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2005/msg01347.html
John Ward
Bristol, UK
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What you call the silly headsnap also exists in flamenco, one of the roots
of tango.
And Rudolfo Valentino lived long before there were any ballroom competitions
with judges.
Martin wrote:
what im curious about is the genesis of the silly head
snap the
public seems to associate with
Most tango historians give as roots of our tango : Milonga, Habanera, Canyengue
and the ''Tanguillo Español''.
The milonga originated in Argentine rural areas and is known as Milonga Campera
(rural milonga) to differentiate it from the moder milonga or (City Milonga) .
See Sebastian Piana.
From: 'Mash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From what I understand and correct me if I am wrong, Tango through
evolutionary processes was born out of Milonga.
My query is how come Milonga appears to be left as an almost side note to
Tango. I mean how come there are not Milonga clubs that predominantly
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 01:27:53AM +0900, Astrid wrote:
why if my guess is correct that there is no such thing as a pure Milonga
night in the world.
maybe because that would be equivalent to an airobics class that goes on and
on and on...
But what about Salsa clubs, and dance clubs
Charles wrote:
..few isolated images of tango (not to mention a few isolated
musical phrases) evolved tangentially into something else. It is a bit like
seeing
one or two swing steps and basing instruction on that over a period of fifty
years without checking back to see how it actually
Michael wrote:
The silly head snap is part of International style tango.
This style is used in competitive ballroom competitions. The
social tango style, sometimes called American, doesn't have
any head snaps. In the competitive style, the couples aren't
allowed to separate but they can in
my 1 cent contribution to the tango vs. milonga question.
both my wife and i are atheletic. my wife is also a profesional dance
instructor (not tango). tango allows us to express ourselves with big, strong
moves, and to combine our other dance and movement forms (martial arts) with
tango. we
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Another example is the famous Villoldo song El
Porten~ito. D'Arienzo and others play it as a
tango but D'Agostino plays it as a milonga (it's
listed as a tango/milonga on his CD).
If you're referring to track 19 of Tangos de los
Angels vol. 1 on the Tango Argentino
Amaury Chris
The popular misconception re Gardel is well
illustrated by Chris's contribution. But the real
reason you cannot dance to Gardel is due to his very
peculiar approach to rhythm. He use a very individual
form of rubato [push pull] resulting in the same
beat being in two different
YAMP (yet another milonga post)
Just as there are several flavors of tango there are several flavors of
milonga (my experience is US).
I originally learned milonga as a quickly moving and sassy dance that
travels over the floor. In close embrace the traspie and other rhythmic
'stops' and
ming_mar wrote:
If you're referring to track 19 of Tangos de los
Angels vol. 1 on the Tango Argentino label, then
there's no slash (virgule) between the words tango
and milonga.
Actually I was referring to the Bandoneon label issue but you are correct
about the slash being absent.
In English,
I mean how come there are not Milonga clubs that predominantly
play Milongas rather then normal break from the Tangos?
Probably for the same reason that there aren't Two Step Clubs ,
but there are country western dance places where you get not only
two step, but waltz, Cowboy Cha
So TFH and Chris, UK, have either of you ever danced with a
guy who only learned tango by just dancing?
Does Tete count?
I have. With old Argentine guys who have danced for years.
It's not so fun.
You should hear what they say about you, Trini.
--
Chris
PS
The popular misconception re
this thread about milonga and tango has been interesting - I think that
I read (I may be wrong) that women don't like milonga, or prefer tango.
In our community, the women/followers all love milonga and when they
hear it, start searching for a leader who can lead itsome new
leads,
I think you may be wrong, because it is the same in this community - women
love a good milonga! I am not allowed to sit out milongas. I'd better find a
follow to lead during a milonga, since there are too few men in the
community who can lead it well. Of course, that's fine with me because I
--- Chris, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So TFH and Chris, UK, have either of you ever danced
with a guy who only learned tango by just dancing?
Does Tete count?
A few months ago in Ann Arbor, Tete was good enough to give
a charla on tango. He mentioned learning with friends and
how he
he would get hit on the head by the older kids ...
So, he didn't learn by just dancing.
You aren't familiar with the hit on the head dance move that was all the
rage when Tete was a kid? ;)
Really Trini, you're slipping. You could be teaching it to your pupils in
seminars for $50 a time!
I have. With old Argentine guys who have danced for years.
It's not so fun.
You should hear what they say about you, Trini.
Well, there goes oximoron #2.
If the marvellous milonguero is able to please any female dancer with a
working pair of legs and enough willingness to _try_
Is it a snap or a dip? My recollection of these sorts of stylised performances
is that they have dips in them but I don't recall a snap and I have not got
youtube here to check. Head snaps in flamenco? I have never done a flamenco
lesson as such, but it's the national dance of half my family,
--- Carol Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I originally learned milonga as a quickly moving and
sassy dance that
travels over the floor. In close embrace the traspie and
other rhythmic
'stops' and small shuffles are interesting, but feel
deliberately
constrained for such a sweeping
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--- Trini y Sean (PATangoS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Carol,
I think you're referring to milonga liso, which has those
longer steps.
Sorry, Carol. I should have said milonga caminito and
not milonga liso (which I got confused with tango liso).
At least, that is what I have heard
I think the reason many men don't enjoy milonga is because they can't dance.
And I don't mean they can't dance milonga; I mean they can't dance - period.
I honestly believe that many men can do tango, and even do it quite well,
without ever learning how to actually dance. This isn't possible
--- Trini y Sean (PATangoS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thus,
inexperienced men will sit out milonga tandas and wait for
tangos.
I love to dance milonga, especially to 1930s recordings including
Canaro, Donato, Lomuto D'Arienzo. D'Agostino DiSarli from the
1940s are nice too.
However, at
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