[Tango-L] the sexy-tango myth

2008-04-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When Shahrukh Marchant created TANGO-L in the '90s I participated in it for several years. I just returned to it and began by scanning Lucy Lynch's archive of the last couple of years. I noticed that people are still making the silly claim that tango is the sexiest of all dances. Get real,

[Tango-L] Welcome back Larry

2008-04-16 Thread Melroy
Welcome back Larry.. I used to enjoy your posts. Didn't you write a series of narratives on your adventures in BsAs? They were great, especially as I hadn't been there yet and it was all a bit more mysterious. Mel. ___ Tango-L mailing list

Re: [Tango-L] Welcome back Larry

2008-04-16 Thread Astrid
Welcome back Larry.. I used to enjoy your posts. Didn't you write a series of narratives on your adventures in BsAs? They were great, especially as I hadn't been there yet and it was all a bit more mysterious. Mel. Oh, I still remember the youthful light grey shirt for going to

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Chris, UK
why do these problems NOT occur in the milongas of BsAs and, IMHO, the answer is obvious. The codes of the milonga prevent it. This is a misunderstanding. The codes of BA milongas prevent nothing. They are simply a description of prevalent behaviour. cabaceo should be encouraged even if

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Alexis Cousein
Chris, UK wrote: why do these problems NOT occur in the milongas of BsAs and, IMHO, the answer is obvious. The codes of the milonga prevent it. This is a misunderstanding. The codes of BA milongas prevent nothing. They are simply a description of prevalent behaviour. Precisely. The codes

[Tango-L] Why doesn't this happen in BA?

2008-04-16 Thread Deby Novitz
I think since I live here, and dance here, I might be a better person to respond to this, rather than someone who has just visited here. KEITH WROTE I think most peiople who have danced outside the milongas of BsAs will recognise the problems you're describing. The question is, why do these

Re: [Tango-L] Why doesn't this happen in BA?

2008-04-16 Thread Alexis Cousein
Deby Novitz wrote: The behavior comes from the respect of the codes. No, it doesn't. The codes come from a common understanding of what behaviour is acceptable, and the actors *choose* to abide by them - i.e. the behaviour comes from a free will decision to abide by the codes, or from a fear

Re: [Tango-L] Why doesn't this happen in BA?

2008-04-16 Thread NANCY
--- Deby Novitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think since I live here, and dance here, I might be a better person to respond to this, rather than someone who has just visited here. You could also check out the first two posts at: http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ Where you will find at

[Tango-L] Media lunas (edible) at 5:00 AM

2008-04-16 Thread Crrtango
Greetings, Just got back from Buenos Aires and still going through withdrawal. Just a few observations because of length restrictions on the list. Some milongas are experiencing a change in the type of dancers that frequent them, meaning the ratio of tourists to locals, and by consequence

Re: [Tango-L] Why doesn't this happen in BA?

2008-04-16 Thread Alexis Cousein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems like a semantical and intellectual argument that you are parsing for the sake of having your say No - for the sake of making sure that everybody understands. She is claiming 1. the codes force behaviour while also claiming (correctly) 2. they don't work

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Carol Shepherd
If a man who dances repeat tandas with the same woman is a tango hog, is the follow who dances repeat tandas while there are surplus follows who are not dancing (indeed, many have not danced a single tanda all night) also a tango hog? When I brought this topic up about having a hard time

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Alexis Cousein
Carol Shepherd wrote: If a man who dances repeat tandas with the same woman is a tango hog, is the follow who dances repeat tandas while there are surplus follows who are not dancing (indeed, many have not danced a single tanda all night) also a tango hog? When she dances six tandas with

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Anton Stanley
you don't choose a partner during the cortina...the cortina gives you time to leave the floor, sit down, re-adjust and look around to see who you might want to make contact with for the next tanda. Yes all of 20 or 30 seconds. In BA it works fine because everyone (customarily) uses the cabeceo.

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Anton Stanley
I shouldn't describe your first post as fantastic Skip, just because I agree with all you wrote. What the hell! Fantastic post Skip! Hope we don't have to wait too long for more of your observations and insights. Probably a little more condensed though. Anton

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Tony
Carol Shepherd wrote: If a man who dances repeat tandas with the same woman is a tango hog, is the follow who dances repeat tandas while there are surplus follows who are not dancing (indeed, many have not danced a single tanda all night) also a tango hog? Hey, I didn't coin the phrase!

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not

2008-04-16 Thread Skip Augustine
Anton wrote: I shouldn't describe your first post as fantastic Skip, just because I agree with all you wrote. What the hell! Fantastic post Skip! Hope we don't have to wait too long for more of your observations and insights. Probably a little more condensed though. Anton- Thank you for the

Re: [Tango-L] tango music

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Waxman
At 07:12 PM 4/16/2008, Dubravko Kakarigi wrote: Is there an e-mail list with the focus on tango music? Thank you. Yes, the Tango DJ list. Are you a milonga DJ? Marty ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

Re: [Tango-L] Surplus Tanguera - Not (reply to Skip's 1st)

2008-04-16 Thread Jake Spatz
Skip, Skip Augustine wrote: I [...] have sat out many a tanda of music I would love to dance to, because by the time the music started there was no one appropriate left to dance with. Have you considered dancing with someone inappropriate? I think this manner of picking (or trying to pick)

Re: [Tango-L] Why doesn't this happen in BA?

2008-04-16 Thread Chris, UK
In the traditional milonga people respect the codes. Those who respect the codes respect the codes. Those who don't don't. Some organizers consistently announce when necessary for the women to keep their feet on the floor, others ignore it. Well, quite - some respect the codes, some don't.

[Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace

2008-04-16 Thread MACFroggy
Here's a great article by Terence Clarke on Tango Nuevo, with the popular DNI school in BsAs as an example of what he terms Playground Tango: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/15/125453.php http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site

Re: [Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace

2008-04-16 Thread Tango Tango
If only the founders of DNI would have the courtesy to wear cargo pants. (Or any pants, for that matter) http://www.marytango.com.ar/index_ingl.html Neil ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace

2008-04-16 Thread Ira Goldstein
I was at Practica X one night when Dana Frigoli Pablo Villarazza (the founders of DNI) and Pablo Inza and Mariela Sametband danced improvisationally to music selected by the crowd after a tandem seminar. Milena Plebs showed up to watch them perform and was enthusiastically appreciative.

Re: [Tango-L] Modern dance incorporates a few tango moves

2008-04-16 Thread Keith
Mario, I think you've got this backwards. I believe these are supposed to be Tango dancers so it's not modern dance incorporating a few Tango poses, it's actually Tango incorporating a lot of modern dance moves. The question is, when does it stop being one and become the other. On that I have

[Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace

2008-04-16 Thread june es
I agree with Skip's posting about the soundness of DNI technique. I regard myself as a tango dancer who enjoys both close and open embrace. I also took private lessons and practiced with their teachers. What they teach applies across close and open embrace. DNI also offers a total package - I

Re: [Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace

2008-04-16 Thread Nina Pesochinsky
Great article. Thank you, Huck. I think that it is OK that they dance that way. For now. If they are under 30, they probably do not have the inner resources to appreciate the finer things of tango that the author refers to. Some of it may be even scary for them. But if you give them 10