Re: How to recover messages?

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin, On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:27:26 +0100 GMT (12/02/2008, 16:27 +0700 GMT), Martin Sebald wrote: MS During downloading messages my computer hang up the day before yesterday. MS In maintainance centre TB showed two damaged folders and said that it was MS able to recover messages. The

Re: Messages cannot be dragged from messages list to Editor window

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jay, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:42:28 +0200 GMT (28/02/2008, 10:42 +0700 GMT), Jay Walker wrote: until 3.99, You could select messages in messages list or in finder and drag them to editor window, message were attached as MIME. This is broken in 4.0 JW Just noticed the same now and

Re: How to recover messages?

2008-02-29 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin, On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:27:26 +0100GMT (12-2-2008, 10:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MS MESSAGES.EBB Rename this one to somename.ext and whether you can salvage something with SmartBat. -- Groetjes, Roelof Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. - Robert

Re: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:15:08 +0100 GMT (28/02/2008, 15:15 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other. In older versions this was possible and quite convenient. Attachments could be dragged from an incoming message to an outgoing

Drag and drop (was: 4.0.14.8)

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:51:21 +0200 GMT (29/02/2008, 03:51 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM partially fixed, because when I select messages and drag them to MM editor in taskbar, editor window is not focused. Only way is to MM use Alt+tab. ST It has always been so, so it's not

Re: How to recover messages?

2008-02-29 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi all, nobody has any idea? :-( -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14.9 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: 4.0.14.7

2008-02-29 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Maxim, is there some problem with the internal backup? I discovered that TB was backing up my data! Interesting because I never used the internal backup routine, also I never configured anything to make an automated backup. Where are the backup files stored? I was not able to see any

Re: If Server not reachable - no Error Message

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:00:02 +0100 GMT (29/02/2008, 03:00 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF i fetch from K9 on localhost: JF didn't start it, so it was not availiable. JF After pressing ALT-F2 Connection Manager came and went away without a JF message, that a Error occured.

Re: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ivan, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:18:24 +0600 GMT (28/02/2008, 15:18 +0700 GMT), Ivan Bolhovitinov wrote: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other. In older versions this was possible and quite convenient. Confirmations? IB https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6860 IB

Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:39:46 +0100 GMT (29/02/2008, 01:39 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Hello Rick, M Any confirmations/agreements? Behavior is confirmed as you describe. Confirmation and support M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873 -- Cheers, Thomas. 17. If you

Re[2]: How to recover messages?

2008-02-29 Thread Vili
nobody has any idea? :-( Not from this far. But at the weekend I can connect to your PC and look around, if you wish. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Threading issue

2008-02-29 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:57:57 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, And another thing - it won't be very practical to go through all your message base and set all messages' CG to NONE when you delete a group. Especially, when it's done by mistake. Further to my reply last night, I have created a Common VF with the filter as per attachment

Re: Drag and drop (was: 4.0.14.8)

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, Any chance you can implement dragging an attachment from an incoming message to a new message? That's already working, I use it all the time. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2

Re[2]: Threading issue

2008-02-29 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/29/2008 12:30 PM Hi Dwight, On 2/29/2008 Dwight Corrin wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. DC it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets

Re[2]: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/29/2008 12:32 PM Hi MAU, On 2/29/2008 MAU wrote: M I think there is no need to add any arguments. For me, this is simply M unacceptable. Agreed. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE

Re: Threading issue

2008-02-29 Thread Rick Grunwald
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:57:57 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added

Re: Messages cannot be dragged from messages list to Editor window

2008-02-29 Thread Jay Walker
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: until 3.99, You could select messages in messages list or in finder and drag them to editor window, message were attached as MIME. This is broken in 4.0 It's fixed in the current beta version. Confirmed.

Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:39:46 +0100 GMT (29/02/2008, 01:39 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Any confirmations/agreements? Behavior is confirmed as you describe. Confirmation and support M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873 Not confirmed in 4.0.14.9: I can click with the mouse

Re[2]: How to recover messages?

2008-02-29 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/29/2008 10:52 AM Hi Thomas, On 2/29/2008 Thomas Fernandez wrote: MS As you can see, I use OTFE. TF Bad choice. Your opinion, not fact. TF I have the same. I don't use OTFE on my PC because of the proprietary TF encryption, but Voyager doesn't offer a choice. Any damaged OTFE TF folder is

Re: Threading issue

2008-02-29 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 6:20:59 PM, MAU wrote: Seems to me that 'supplementary' is the key. If you are trying to maintain integrity of what was sent/received, then the attachment has to be considered part of that package. If we are worrying about evidentiary matters, then we have to

Re: Threading issue

2008-02-29 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, February 29, 2008, 11:31:29 AM, Paul Van Noord wrote: It can also be stored apart from the message. For the sanctity of what was dispatched, this too should be eliminated. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at

Outlook Express Import - Bug

2008-02-29 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Bat People, When TB imports addresses from an Outlook Express Addressbook (WAB) it imports the e-mail address twice in the contact's detail box. Confirmations? -- Best regards, Richard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Threading issue

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Dwight, How you can restrict the sanctity of all this to one portion and still pretend that there is some moral imperative for the whole is beyond me. In my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], a reply to Rick Grunwald about editing Subject or nor, I wrote: ,- [ ] | It is and has been a long

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Stefan Tanurkov, am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 22:59 schrieben Sie: JF You are kidding? Aren't you? You are!!! I didn't drink any alcohol for five days now. I mean, I deadly serious. Would it be a idea to ask the User, what he want to do with Messages assigned to that Group

Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M Any confirmations/agreements? Behavior is confirmed as you describe. Confirmation and support M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873 Not confirmed in 4.0.14.9: I can click with the mouse wherever I want and type there. See below my sig. Maybe they fixed it silently.

Re: 4.0.14.9

2008-02-29 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin, am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 22:33 schrieben Sie: The Bat! 4.0.14.9 is available up+running -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, Further to my message yesterday... Now, imagine for a second how it should work in environments where .TBB files are share and nobody knows about sets of colour groups on other machines, where people just agreed to use same names for some groups. That's certainly an scenario

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread Rick Grunwald
Especially, when it's done by mistake. Options/Preferences/Other Options/Confirmations. Is there perhaps a tick box missing there? ;-) How about ... -[ WARNING! ]--- | You are about to delete Colour Group 'Name'. | |

4.0.14.9: Protocol handling

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello all, I may have missed something in the list but, why do I get the attached the first time I start a new version after upgrading? I believe I've seen for the last 3-4 versions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service

Re: Drag and drop (was: 4.0.14.8)

2008-02-29 Thread Maggie Meister
Hi Thomas, On Friday, February 29, 2008 at 10:13:39 AM you wrote: TF I cannot just drag an TF attachment from one message to a new message. I have to save it first TF and then attach it to the new message. I'm stuck back here at version .14 but I have never had this problem. Just tested it

Under some conditions, a crash with attachment tab

2008-02-29 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Everyone, With the new tabbed preview window (for .html and some attachments), I get a crash when I select the attachment tab on a .rtf or .doc file (I haven't tested it with others). This involves the gmail account, and I haven't tested it yet with my yahoo account. So far, this seems

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Rick, Great idea although I should think color groups would be user specific Do you mean that if a TB installation is shared by several users, each user should have a different set of colour groups? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Rick, Great idea although I should think color groups would be user specific Do you mean that if a TB installation is shared by several users, each user should have a different set of colour groups? Yes -- Rick If all life is sacred ... How can Republicans be pro life AND for

4.0.14.9: CHUMP!! when exiting TB

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello all, Re: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6833 I had this problem a few times, not many, with 4.0.14.8 and a few minutes ago when I exited 4.0.14.9 for the first time. Exceptions log attached and note added to BT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The

Re: If Server not reachable - no Error Message

2008-02-29 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, am Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 um 16:19 schrieben Sie: If your server is K9 on localhost: and it is not available, what other error message do you expect? Do you have the status bar (cntrl-L) enabled? I have the Status Bar enabled, but if fetching Mail is going

Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders remain assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

2008-02-29 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag MAU, am Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 um 19:34 schrieben Sie: -[ WARNING! ]--- | You are about to delete Colour Group 'Name'. | | | | Would you like to set messages currently assigned| | to this