In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Is thebat.net blocking itself?
PG That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself. I'm
PG not sure why.
Perhaps to avoid abuse. You already have the sent email...
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Goncalo Farias
The path to hell is paved with governm't
Answering a current message (Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 05:28)
Hello Max,
MM Any way, any mail server may store the messages, for example, for legal
MM inspection by authorities.
yes. It MAY. But that is not the matter of dispute.
Privacy is a highly sensitive issue - and Google is known to
Hello Thomas,
On Wednesday, October 10, 2007 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Why not? Your sent mail will be available through POP, so you'll be
able to download it to voyager.
Right. But when I get home, I download mymessages onto my home
computer. If I have downloaded them already to Voyager, I
10/10/2007 4:29 AM
Hi Thomas,
On 10/9/2007 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Our goal is not to force a particular mail service, but to give an
opportunity to easily create an account.
TF The idea is not bad, but I think you chose the wrong email provider.
Exactly! It makes no sense to me to beat up
10/10/2007 4:48 AM
Hi Maxim,
On 10/9/2007 Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM As I wrote a few times in TBBETA, this have to be resolved.
By choosing an appropriate provider!
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Take Care,
Paul
Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195
No IMAP OTFE
10/10/2007 4:39 AM
Hi Maxim,
On 10/9/2007 Maxim Masiutin wrote:
But please take in mind, that all messages that are sent and received via
this account will be stored endlessly on GOOGLE's server. (Unless the
customer uses the web interface and removes them.)
MM Any way, any mail server may
Hello Paul,
Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 11:48:55, you wrote:
MM As I wrote a few times in TBBETA, this have to be resolved.
By choosing an appropriate provider!
Which provider exactly can you recommend?
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Best regards,
Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/10/2007 6:17 AM
Hi Maxim,
On 10/10/2007 Maxim Masiutin wrote:
By choosing an appropriate provider!
MM Which provider exactly can you recommend?
Good question! I would need to spend some time researching this which
I am happy to do. One principle made clear to me in my 20 years as a
Hello Krzysztof,
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:11:10 +0200 GMT (10/10/2007, 15:11 +0700 GMT),
Krzysztof Trybowski wrote:
Why not? Your sent mail will be available through POP, so you'll be
able to download it to voyager.
Right. But when I get home, I download mymessages onto my home
computer. If I
Hello Paul,
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:47:59 -0400 GMT (10/10/2007, 15:47 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:
But please take in mind, that all messages that are sent and
received via this account will be stored endlessly on GOOGLE's
server. (Unless the customer uses the web interface and removes
Hello Thomas,
Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 18:21:01, you wrote:
Check the laws. In many countries, the provider is required to store
the messages for a while, I believe it is 180 days in the EU right
now, and at least that long in the US. For some reason, this is
against terrorism.
Thank you for
10/10/2007 6:28 PM
Hi Peter,
On 10/10/2007 Peter Hampf wrote:
TF In many countries, the provider is required to store the messages for a
TF while, I believe it is 180 days in the EU right now,
PH Well, that is correct. But IMO that is not what we are talking about. The
PH newly installed laws
Hello Paul,
Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 1:31:44, you wrote:
This is why I say TB needs a private host as opposed to a
public one that makes its money off their users.
Consider using mutemail.com host.
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Best regards,
Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello tombkk,
On Tuesday, October 9, 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can work it around. Just prefix your username with recent:
For example for account named [EMAIL PROTECTED] you'd use username
recent:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where do I set this? In the From account?
No, as username in POP3
Hello Krzysztof,
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:38:33 +0200 GMT (09/10/2007, 19:38 +0700 GMT),
Krzysztof Trybowski wrote:
You can work it around. Just prefix your username with recent:
For example for account named [EMAIL PROTECTED] you'd use username
recent:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where do I set this? In
Hello Paul,
Monday, October 08, 2007, 5:12:56, you wrote:
It also has gmail quirks. Is the message base on their servers
encrypted? Are the calendar and addresses/contacts encrypted? If so,
to what depth? Encrypted transmission is worthless if the rest of it
isn't encrypted, preferably at 256
Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 4:34:02, you wrote:
So does GMX...
Does GMX provide an opportunity to create an e-mail account solely from a mail
client software?
Our goal is not to force a particular mail service, but to give an opportunity
to easily create an account.
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Best
10/9/2007 1:58 PM
Hi Maxim,
On 10/9/2007 Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM We do not force to use GMail, we simply offer an opportunity to
MM easily create a mail account using only the email program,
MM i.e. without opening a web browser.
It isn't automatic when one must log into webmail and search
Hello Paul,
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 21:03:52, you wrote:
It isn't automatic when one must log into webmail and search through
the options to enable POP and then be asked questions they have no
clue as to how to answer.
As I already wrote to the list, this have to be resolved.
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Best
Hello Thomas,
On Tuesday, October 9, 2007 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
If you enable POP in Gmail, you can select either that all messages
in account are available through POP, or that only messages received
from that moment on are available.
When I enabled POP, I set it to all messages.
Yes,
10/9/2007 7:54 PM
Hi Peter,
On 10/9/2007 Peter Hampf wrote:
MM Our goal is not to force a particular mail service, but to give an
MM opportunity to easily create an account.
PH Max, this is - in general - a reasonable good idea.
PH But please take in mind, that all messages that are sent
Hello Krzysztof,
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:11:24 +0200 GMT (10/10/2007, 05:11 +0700 GMT),
Krzysztof Trybowski wrote:
If you enable POP in Gmail, you can select either that all messages
in account are available through POP, or that only messages received
from that moment on are available.
When
Hello Maxim,
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:27:35 +0300 GMT (10/10/2007, 00:27 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
So does GMX...
Does GMX provide an opportunity to create an e-mail account solely
from a mail client software?
Probably not. However, I believe Gmail is not suitable for your
purpose due
Hello Peter,
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 23:06:55, you wrote:
But please take in mind, that all messages that are sent and received via
this account will be stored endlessly on GOOGLE's server. (Unless the
customer uses the web interface and removes them.)
Any way, any mail server may store the
Hello Thomas,
Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 5:29:24, you wrote:
And I'd rather log into the web interface in order to create and setup
an account once, than every time I need to receive messages on a
second computer. The whole purpose of your project (creating from
email client, no need to log
Hello Maxim,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:35:13 +0300 GMT (08/10/2007, 10:35 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check
MM this out and let us know the results?
I don't seem to receive my own message sent from thebat.net at my
thebat.net
Hello Thomas,
A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez typed on:
Monday, October 08, 2007 at 22:37:57 GMT +0700
TF I don't seem to receive my own message sent from thebat.net at my
TF thebat.net address. This is true for both PMs to myself as well as the
TF messages I sent to TBBETA.
TF I have
Hi Thomas,
I don't seem to receive my own message sent from thebat.net at my
thebat.net address. This is true for both PMs to myself as well as the
messages I sent to TBBETA.
Is thebat.net blocking itself?
That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself. I'm
not sure why.
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Hello Peter,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:50:15 -0400 GMT (08/10/2007, 22:50 +0700 GMT),
Peter Gannushkin wrote:
Is thebat.net blocking itself?
PG That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself. I'm
PG not sure why.
Then why did Ritlabs choose Gmail? I was planning to use that
Hello Maxim,
Monday, October 8, 2007, 6:35:13 AM, you wrote (possibly edited):
We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check
this out and let us know the results?
I confirm that there are no problems receving and sending messages
from/to thebat.net.
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Hi Thomas,
on Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:00:02 +0700GMT (08.10.2007, 18:00 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:
TF On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:50:15 -0400 GMT (08/10/2007, 22:50 +0700 GMT),
TF Peter Gannushkin wrote:
Is thebat.net blocking itself?
PG That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself.
Hi Peter,
Monday, October 8, 2007, 9:50:15 AM, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I don't seem to receive my own message sent from thebat.net at my
thebat.net address. This is true for both PMs to myself as well as the
messages I sent to TBBETA.
Is thebat.net blocking itself?
That's the way GMail
Hello Peter,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:43:43 +0200 GMT (08/10/2007, 23:43 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:
TF Then why did Ritlabs choose Gmail? I was planning to use that address
TF for my five TB! mailing lists. Looks like the attempt is futile.
You can work around it by filtering your sent mail
Hello Thomas,
Monday, October 08, 2007, 19:00:02, you wrote:
Then why did Ritlabs choose Gmail? I was planning to use that address
for my five TB! mailing lists. Looks like the attempt is futile.
Ritlabs is currently the best among mail providers: it offers good anti-spam,
and encrypted SMTP
Hello Thomas,
On Monday, October 8, 2007 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Hello Maxim,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:35:13 +0300 GMT (08/10/2007, 10:35 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check
MM this out and let us know the results?
I don't seem
Hello Maxim,
on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 05:35:38 [GMT +0200] you wrote
regarding SPF for thebat.net:
We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check this out
and let
us know the results?
no problems sending and receiving.
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Ciao
Thomas
Using: TheBat! 3.99.24
Hello Maxim,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:24:18 +0300 GMT (09/10/2007, 01:24 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
Then why did Ritlabs choose Gmail? I was planning to use that address
for my five TB! mailing lists. Looks like the attempt is futile.
Ritlabs is currently the best among mail providers: it
Hello Krzysztof,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:41:24 +0200 GMT (09/10/2007, 03:41 +0700 GMT),
Krzysztof Trybowski wrote:
I don't seem to receive my own message sent from thebat.net at my
thebat.net address. This is true for both PMs to myself as well as the
messages I sent to TBBETA.
I have
10/8/2007 10:05 PM
Hi Maxim,
On 10/8/2007 Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM Ritlabs is currently the best among mail providers: it offers
MM good anti-spam, and encrypted SMTP connection to the server.
It also has gmail quirks. Is the message base on their servers
encrypted? Are the calendar and
Hello Peter,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:43:43 +0200 GMT (08/10/2007, 23:43 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:
PM You can work around it by filtering your sent mail to the list
PM folder. You won't know however, if or when your message made it to
PM the list.
IF (big if) I were to use a workaround by way
Hello Tbbeta,
We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check this out and
let us know the results?
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Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using
Hi Maxim,
Sunday, October 7, 2007, 9:35:13 PM, you wrote:
Hello Tbbeta,
We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check
this out and let us know the results?
I had no trouble receiving mail from my thebat.net account with AOL,
Yahoo, Gmail or MSN. The headers for gmail
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