Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:09:27AM +0100, MAU wrote: I can't and won't comment about filters being able to copy/move to Outbox, let me ask you, why I should not be able to manually copy a message to Outbox? Where's the enforcing necessity to forbid me, as an adult, well-informed, tech-freaky

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Dwight, I do have to disagree here. I belong to lists with addresses from which I can't post, but which must be the sender. The only cure to that is to compose the message with that account, and put the message in that outbox. Then you have to drag the message from that outbox to the

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, As a well-informed adult, shouldn't you think about all users and not just of yourself? I do. That's why I think the Draft folder would be a good addition to being able to Drag 'n Drop a message to Oubox for resending it. the one for my, the other for other needs. But then the

Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Dwight, Please look at attached GIF, I got this warning when clicking Send. Annoying, ain't it? had same experience. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5446 -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A.

Re: 3.63.09: Auto-complete drop-down lists for addresses and subject

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, However, it is annoying for me because I have auto-complete set to Default address book only, so history should not be used, and I do NOT have 'Automatically complete subject from history' selected, so history should not be used either. This may just be 'the bug'. Can anyone

Re[2]: Alternate e-mail addresses

2005-12-13 Thread Konstantin Zhilenko
Hello, MAU, Monday, December 12, 2005, you wrote: Would anyone support my feature request at BT? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5358 M I've just added a supporting note. Thanks! Noticed quite a few of the support notes this morning :) With best regards. - TB! v.3.63.08 (Beta) on

Re[2]: TB! 3.63.08 Reply templates broken ?

2005-12-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Hello Mary, Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 2:05:02 AM, you wrote: It has saved me from one of the dangers of autocomplete--that it might complete an address to a public list when you have set out to type in a Private Mail address. Get in a hurry--and autocomplete is as dangerous as a folder

Re: TB! 3.63.08 Reply templates broken ?

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello vitalie! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 4:43 AM, you wrote: It has saved me from one of the dangers of autocomplete--that it might complete an address to a public list when you have set out to type in a Private Mail address. Get in a hurry--and autocomplete is as dangerous as a folder

Re: 3.63.09: Auto-complete drop-down lists for addresses and subject

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 3:12 AM, you wrote: However, it is annoying for me because I have auto-complete set to Default address book only, so history should not be used, and I do NOT have 'Automatically complete subject from history' selected, so history should not be used

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Monday, December 12, 2005, 11:54 PM, you wrote: JS As for the Drafts folder proposal, why can't one just create a JS folder called drafts and drag the saved as draft message to JS it? It's very intuitive that way since you simply drag into-it :) JS It's certainly no more time

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 2:48 AM, you wrote: ... I think the Draft folder would be a good addition to being able to Drag 'n Drop a message to Oubox for resending it. the one for my, the other for other needs. But then the outbox protection feature has to be implemented

3.63.09: Multi-line headers in Editor

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello all, Please see attached. I've noticed when doing a reply to all with enough addresses in the CC field. Really nice!! :) However, it seems that it is not working 100% yet, the last address is now displayed, just the name. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at:

Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/13/2005 6:36 AM Hi Mary, On 12/13/2005 Mary Bull wrote: MB Hello MAU! MB On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 2:48 AM, you wrote: ... I think the Draft folder would be a good addition to being able to Drag 'n Drop a message to Oubox for resending it. the one for my, the other for other

Voyager Versions

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/13/2005 6:45 AM Hello all, Is there a 3.63.08 version of Voyager available? If so, can you provide a link? Thank You Very Much! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.63.09 (BETA) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP No OTFE Opera 9 Beta 1

Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Voyager Versions)

2005-12-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:46:33 -0500GMT (13-12-2005, 12:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PVN Is there a 3.63.08 version of Voyager available? If so, can you PVN provide a link? moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being

Re: Voyager Versions

2005-12-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:46:33 -0500GMT (13-12-2005, 12:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PVN Is there a 3.63.08 version of Voyager available? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof 4 aces beats full house. Smith Wesson beats 4 aces. The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Gleason Pace
Peter Fjelsten, GP The last time I tried to use this, TB placed a series of copies of GP the message in the outbox with parked flags. It seems to me that a GP copy of the message in its most recent form would be sufficient. GP Also, once the message has been successfully sent, the draft

Folder hierarchy in POP3 accounts [was Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?]

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Gleason! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 8:34 AM, you wrote: ... I am reminded of the last time I tried to move a folder up in the server hierarchy. I ended up deleting my folder preferences file to get TB back to normal. Not sure if that has been fixed. I haven't noticed it being

Re: Folder hierarchy in POP3 accounts [was Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?]

2005-12-13 Thread Gleason Pace
Mary Bull, By server hierarchy, are you still talking about behavior in IMAP? Yes, IMAP. I paid attention to your complaint, before, when you first posted about this happening to you, and although I would like to rearrange the Account Tree (folder hierarchy) in my own two Accounts (which

Re: Folder hierarchy in POP3 accounts [was Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?]

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Gleason! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 9:06 AM, you wrote: If this is only applying to IMAP, then I may get brave and rearrange the order of a few more folders to make the Account Tree more convenient for me. Comments? I think it might be useful for others who read my complaint to

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Ming Chang
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 5:27:58 AM, you wrote: MM What's the point of th Drafts folder if there is draft per-message flag in the Outbox? MM There are mail clients that have a separate Drafts folder, but this is because they don't have an opportunity to park individual

Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:11:43 +0100 GMT (13/12/2005, 08:11 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Now look at the new attachment about Subject. M Has anyone else seen any of these warnings? Yes. It has been like this for many versions. You can choose not to have the warning displayed. --

Re: 3.63.09: Multi-line headers in Editor

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:40:03 +0100 GMT (13/12/2005, 18:40 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Please see attached. I've noticed when doing a reply to all with enough M addresses in the CC field. Really nice!! :) Yes, confirmed with 3.62.14 in the office. :-) M However, it seems that it is not

Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:58:02 +0100 GMT (12/12/2005, 23:58 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M The Draft folder has been suggested/wanted for years and it could wait a M few more. However, I would like to avoid the present solution introduced M in 3.63.09 to be released, as that would probably

Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 10:05 AM, you wrote: M Now look at the new attachment about Subject. M Has anyone else seen any of these warnings? Yes. It has been like this for many versions. You can choose not to have the warning displayed. But Miguel has evidently found a

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:28:24 +0100 GMT (13/12/2005, 06:28 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP I can't and won't comment about filters being able to copy/move to PP Outbox, let me ask you, why I should not be able to manually copy a PP message to Outbox? Where's the enforcing

Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:24:05 -0600 GMT (13/12/2005, 23:24 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: M Now look at the new attachment about Subject. ^^ M Has anyone else seen any of these warnings? Yes. It has been like this for many versions. You

Problem with account-log on the screen bottom (probably only POP3, not sure)

2005-12-13 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello everyone, can anyone reproduce the following error (I can, every time). Using 3.63.08 here. Be aware that IF you can reproduce the error, you can't use TB anymore and have to kill it with the task manager. 0. TB in fullscreen mode (thats how I'm using it all the time) 1. start downloading

Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M Has anyone else seen any of these warnings? Yes. It has been like this for many versions. You can choose not to have the warning displayed. Have you seen the warning when the To or Subject are NOT empty? I doubt it. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft'

Re: 3.63.09: Multi-line headers in Editor

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M Please see attached. I've noticed when doing a reply to all with enough M addresses in the CC field. Really nice!! :) Yes, confirmed with 3.62.14 in the office. :-) I went back to 3.62.14 just to test the same message with which I 'discovered' the feature this morning and I

Re: Problem with account-log on the screen bottom (probably only POP3, not sure)

2005-12-13 Thread Peter Hampf
Answering a current message (Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 18:45) Good evening Alexander, ASK 3. while the mails are downloaded, the open account log is redrawn out ASKof the screen! confirmed! (Good catch!) ASK 4. get a List index out of bounds (208) error requester that I can NOT ASK

Re: Problem with account-log on the screen bottom (probably only POP3, not sure)

2005-12-13 Thread Владимир 'insider' Прохоро в
Good Day, Alexander. 3. while the mails are downloaded, the open account log is redrawn out of the screen! reproduced in last some dozens of builds... 4. get a List index out of bounds (208) error requester that I can NOT get rid of except with the three finger salute to kill TB from

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Mary Bull, Tuesday, December 13, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : And a Draft folder is an elegant alternative for getting past the difficulty the outbox protection feature is attempting to solve. Full ACK! And in an editable Draft folder, presumably the code would not have

Re: Problem with account-log on the screen bottom (probably only POP3, not sure)

2005-12-13 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else, on 13-Dez-2005 at 20:30 you (Peter Hampf) wrote: ASK 3. while the mails are downloaded, the open account log is redrawn out ASKof the screen! confirmed! (Good catch!) Well, its a rare condition... :) ASK 4. get a List index out of bounds (208) error

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Paul Van Noord, Tuesday, December 13, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : When I expose a new customer to TB! I tell them up front that it is quirky and the Help is horrendous but if they will hang in there while I get them trained they will have a tremendously _safe_ tool at their

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Mary Bull, Monday, December 12, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : For one thing, Your comments are amazing! Could you please post them to the appropriate BT entry to not make them lost? Which do you think appropriate? To MAU'S BT wish,

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Paul, I too have the multiple account sending problem that Dwight has... As I wrote to Dwight last night, I think that can be easily (and perhaps even elegantly ;) solved with templates and/or folder identities. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at:

About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello all, Let's see, TB creates Inbox, Inbox-Known, Outbox, Sent Mail and Trash folders, all of them with an specific purpose and quite intuitive. If needed TB will also create Junk and Quarantine folders, also intuitive. You, as a user, can then create an unlimited amount of Account and Common

Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/13/2005 6:10 PM Hi Charlene, On 12/13/2005 Charlene Ferrara wrote: CF Good point, too. That's why I use Opera and TB. Both tools give back the CF control to the user that MS once gave away needlessly. Miguel has CF clearly shown a vision in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 CF how

Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/13/2005 6:12 PM Hi MAU, On 12/13/2005 MAU wrote: M Hello Paul, I too have the multiple account sending problem that Dwight has... M As I wrote to Dwight last night, I think that can be easily (and M perhaps even elegantly ;) solved with templates and/or folder M identities. I agree.

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Charlene, This will save from accidentally sending them. You will have to explicitly unpark them to send them out. Rubbish. Now, there is one of my tigresses! ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A.

Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Charlene, Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 8:44:56 PM, Charlene wrotened: CF We are nagged more and more by pop-ups stealing our time and attracting CF attention when we better should concentrate on other things (ie our work) Awww must we. I dont wanna and you cant make me. CF Trained by the

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder? A: Nah! You don't need one. Your drafts are saved in Outbox, mixed with other messages waiting to be sent but with a special park flag which will prevent them from being unintentionally sent. Of course, if you

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Vili, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 12:42:00 AM, Vili wrotened: Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder? A: Nah! You don't need one. Your drafts are saved in Outbox, mixed with other messages waiting to be sent but with a special park flag which will prevent

Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:50:58 +0100 GMT (14/12/2005, 00:50 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Yes. It has been like this for many versions. You can choose not to have the warning displayed. M Have you seen the warning when the To or Subject are NOT empty? I doubt M it. You are right. I have

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/13/2005 8:08 PM Hi Vili, On 12/13/2005 Vili wrote: V Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? V We lived w/o Draft, we get used to it, dont change it... I am glad you are not speaking for me. I often compile a message for future sending and 'park' it in the

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, We lived w/o Draft, we get used to it, dont change it... Can't argue such profound thoughts. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on

Re[3]: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread Vili
Hello Paul, V Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? V We lived w/o Draft, we get used to it, dont change it... I am glad you are not speaking for me. I often compile a message for future sending and 'park' it in the Outbox for a day or two. If I had a Drafts

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Maxim Can't stand it anymore and have to jump in :) Just like many things in life, it is a matter of perception. What's the point of th Drafts folder if there is draft per-message flag in the Outbox? Even though I _know_ that message is parked in the Outbox, it is in the place where all

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Neal! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 9:04 PM, you wrote: +1 for the Draft folder. :thumbup: Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: Unicode

2005-12-13 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Edvinas, on Monday, December 12, 2005 at 08:31 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello Krzysztof, On Saturday, December 10, 2005, at 15:55, you wrote: nope :) iam using english windows only with polish regional settings for keyboard Well, you haven't