Re: 4.2.9.2

2009-07-24 Thread Mackley
They wrote:

now, thai messages are broken with PlainText and RichText/HTML viewer.
With Courier or MS Sans serif - all settings showed the same broken
result. :(

 Confirmed.

Are these fonts Unicode ?

I use this monospaced font with Unicode support
http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com

and I have NO problem with the sample message
http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/thai-bug_EML.rar

on TheBat! Pro 4.2.9.2 on MS WinXP Pro SP2 italian

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4.2.9.4

2009-07-24 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 4.2.9.4 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4294.rar

What's new in 4.2.9.4 since 4.2.9.2:
[-] Some fixes with Thai: the font selected by the user was ignored in the 
previous beta






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Re: 4.2.9.4

2009-07-24 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Maxim,


on Friday, July 24, 2009, at 13:30:12[GMT +0300](which was 12:30
where I live) you wrote among others:
 The Bat! 4.2.9.4 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4294.rar

404 - HTTP not found 

 What's new in 4.2.9.4 since 4.2.9.2:
 [-] Some fixes with Thai: the font selected by the user was ignored in the 
 previous beta


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[UR] (was: 4.2.9.4)

2009-07-24 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Roland Burger« · 2009-07-24 · 12:36 h (CET)]

Moin, Roland!

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4294.rar

 404 - HTTP not found 

No problem here …

BTW: »Up and running!«

Cheers!
VA

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Re: 4.2.9.4

2009-07-24 Thread Mackley
Up and running here

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Re: 4.2.9.4

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Maxim,

 [-] Some fixes with Thai: the font selected by the user was ignored in
 the previous beta

- fixed with Rich Text/HTML and Courier or MS San Serif

- still broken with Plain Text and Courier or with MS Sans Serif
  I also tried Fixdsys and FixdsysTFF = broken

But thai messages will displayed correctly in v4.2.9.4 with PlainText
and Fixdsys Excelsior 3.01 - I also tested this behavior on a
different machine.

http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/thai-bug-v4-2-9-4-w-PlainText-FixdsysExcelsior301.gif


Very odd, MS Sans Serif + PlainText does not worked anymore with
PlainText and v4.2.9.0, also on a different machine.


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[UR] 4.2.9.4 - Error with Account Auto Selection for Reply

2009-07-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin,

am Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 um 12:30 schrieben Sie:

 The Bat! 4.2.9.4 is available

Up and Running now,
i have had no problems so far.

Who knows what comes later ;-)

Here is the Problem:
Since this Version, The Bat! does not choose the correct Account to
reply to the List:
,- [ This happens when using the Main Account ]
| You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
| been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
| being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
| tbbeta-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com.
`-

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Re: [UR] 4.2.9.4 - Error with Account Auto Selection for Reply

2009-07-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jens,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:02:51 +0200GMT (24-7-2009, 16:02 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

JF Since this Version, The Bat! does not choose the correct Account to
JF reply to the List:

How should I try to reproduce that?
Do  you sort to common folders or are you using a template that should
do something for you...

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:50:52 +0300 GMT (22/Jul/09, 17:50 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

To confuse matters, the messages display fine here in both RTV and PTV.

MM Do you speak about http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/thai-bug_EML.rar ? 

Yes. I downloaded that file just to find it is one of the mails I
sent. Displaying fine in both RTV and PTV 0ver here.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,
 
 Displaying fine in both RTV and PTV 0ver here.

what font do you use?

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mackley,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:43 +0200 GMT (23/Jul/09, 0:20 AM +0700 GMT),
Mackley wrote:

M For a good monospaced font with Unicode support I suggest
M http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com

Thai doesn't look good when monospaced.

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Re: The Bug (#0007669)

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:25:34 +0300 GMT (23/Jul/09, 23:25 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM   We won't be updating 4.2.9.1 MSI to include the (#0007669)
MM bugfix;

I'm not entirely getting it. I can read Thai mails again since 4.2.9,
but you will not include the bug fix? How can I tell my friends that
TB! is a viable choice, if they cannot even read their emails?

MM it will be available as a beta
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4292.rar for
MM a while, until we release a new MSIs, but the dates are unknown.

  404 - HTTP not found

Irrelevant, as I will not download any version that does not display
mails in Thai. I can live with 4.2.9 beta forever.

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Re: voyager 4.2.9.3

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:23:08 +0300 GMT (24/Jul/09, 0:23 AM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM Voyager 4.2.9.3 is available at 
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_4-2-9-3.exe

MM What's new since the previous voyager 4.2.6:

Is it now possible to install as plain instead of being forced to use
OTFE? If so, I might try it again.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:42:55 +0200 GMT (24/Jul/09, 21:42 PM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 Displaying fine in both RTV and PTV 0ver here.

MF what font do you use?

I don't know where I set this in TB! a long time ago. Please enlighten
me.

However, I always set my Thai font to AngsualUPC when I find a
setting.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,

 I don't know where I set this in TB! a long time ago. Please enlighten
 me.

Options » preferences » Viewer/Editor | Profile Layout
http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/font-settings.gif

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Re: 4.2.9.4

2009-07-24 Thread Mackley
 Fixdsys Excelsior 3.01

this is an excellent free mono spaced font
http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:13:24 +0200 GMT (24/Jul/09, 22:13 PM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 I don't know where I set this in TB! a long time ago. Please enlighten
 me.

MF Options » preferences » Viewer/Editor | Profile Layout
MF http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/font-settings.gif

AngsanaUPC.

However, this is under the Thai profile, which kicks in when a mail
arrive in windows-874 or tis-620 or utf-8.

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messages in my outbox

2009-07-24 Thread Dwight Corrin
can anyone explain why my outbox looks like this?

http://dcorrin.smugmug.com/gallery/5166336_ozSKQ#600510039_bzMoL-A-LB

the  message  is  there  17  times.  Only 16 appear to be parked. The 
message does not appear in my sent mail folder. When I hit the upward 
pointing green arrow on an envelope icon, it says 'nothing to send'

I  did  recently  observe  a message I sent to a list appearing there 
despite  not  showing up on my sent mail folder, but I have no way of 
knowing on this one. Hopefully this message will go out, and hopefully 
there aren't 10 or 20 copies already in my outbox.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,

 AngsanaUPC.

OK. It works correct with thai messages. But this font is not in my XP
font folder. I found this font in a Vista installation.


 However, this is under the Thai profile, which kicks in when a mail
 arrive in windows-874 or tis-620 or utf-8.

But you must define a special profile. 'Normal' messages displayed
creepy with this font. In earlier TB! versions it was not necessary to
define a special profile.

http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/Courier-vs-AngsanaUPC-thai-message.gif


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Re: messages in my outbox

2009-07-24 Thread MAU
Hello Dwight,

 can anyone explain why my outbox looks like this?

 http://dcorrin.smugmug.com/gallery/5166336_ozSKQ#600510039_bzMoL-A-LB

 the  message  is  there  17  times.  Only 16 appear to be parked. The 
 message does not appear in my sent mail folder. When I hit the upward 
 pointing green arrow on an envelope icon, it says 'nothing to send'

 I  did  recently  observe  a message I sent to a list appearing there 
 despite  not  showing up on my sent mail folder, but I have no way of 
 knowing on this one. Hopefully this message will go out, and hopefully 
 there aren't 10 or 20 copies already in my outbox.

Do you have 'Auto Save' set to 1 minute? Because, from bottom to top, 
the time seems to be increasing by 1 minute and the size is also 
increasing. Were you writing a long message that took you some 15 
minutes? It seems that each 'Auto Save' didn't overwrite the previous 
one.

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Re: [UR] 4.2.9.4 - Error with Account Auto Selection for Reply

2009-07-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Roelof Otten,

am Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 um 16:12 schrieben Sie:

JF Since this Version, The Bat! does not choose the correct Account to
JF reply to the List:

 How should I try to reproduce that?

Thats difficult, but possible.
You set your Main Account to something which is not the eMail you are
using this List. Then you have to reply to a Mail in a Common Folder.

 Do  you sort to common folders or are you using a template that should
 do something for you...

I sort the Mails to Common Folders outside the Accounts and since some
Time The Bat! has been able to detect to which Adress the Mail has
been sent and replys with that Adress/Account.

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Re: 4.2.9.2

2009-07-24 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:14:21 +0200, Mackley wrote:

now, thai messages are broken with PlainText and RichText/HTML viewer.
With Courier or MS Sans serif - all settings showed the same broken
result. :(

 Confirmed.

Are these fonts Unicode ?

I didn't investigate any further. I just replaced the 4.2.9.1 exe
(which showed Thai characters) with the 4.2.9.2 exe (which showed
squares) and confirmed.

I'm glad Thomas can now read his Thai mail again, but I'm afraid
any deeper delving into the latest development sh^Htuff will
prove to be a little bit too much for my delicate constitution.


Arjan
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Re: messages in my outbox

2009-07-24 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:29:47 PM, MAU wrote:
 
 It seems that each 'Auto Save' didn't overwrite the previous 
 one.
 
it should, shouldn't it? 
  
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Re: [UR] 4.2.9.4 - Error with Account Auto Selection for Reply

2009-07-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jens,

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:04:37 +0200GMT (25-7-2009, 1:04 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JF Since this Version, The Bat! does not choose the correct Account to
JF reply to the List:

 How should I try to reproduce that?

JF Thats difficult, but possible.
JF You set your Main Account to something which is not the eMail you are
JF using this List.

That's  the  easy part. The address I'm using for the TB-related lists
is  an alias in my main account and by default the from address is set
via the folder identity.

JF Then you have to reply to a Mail in a Common Folder.

So I moved your message to a common folder.

 Do  you sort to common folders or are you using a template that should
 do something for you...

JF I sort the Mails to Common Folders outside the Accounts and since some
JF Time The Bat! has been able to detect to which Adress the Mail has
JF been sent and replys with that Adress/Account.

TB  picks  the  right  account,  but  not the address that was used to
receive  the  message.  It picked the main address of my main account.
Actually   I   wouldn't  know  how  TB  should pick the address that's
subscribed to this list.

I  picked a message from another account, moved it to the experimental
common  folder  and  replied to that. It picked the proper address and
account  that were used to receive the message, so apparently TB picks
the proper account and uses the main address for that account.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:17:43 +0200 GMT (25/Jul/09, 0:17 AM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 AngsanaUPC.

MF OK. It works correct with thai messages. But this font is not in my XP
MF font folder. I found this font in a Vista installation.

I don't know why it is in my XO font filder. Chances are, I downloaded
it a couple of years ago.

 However, this is under the Thai profile, which kicks in when a mail
 arrive in windows-874 or tis-620 or utf-8.

MF But you must define a special profile. 'Normal' messages displayed
MF creepy with this font. In earlier TB! versions it was not necessary to
MF define a special profile.

I have a special profile on this computer, and I confirm Thai
displays well on my office computer (4.0.28) without special profile.
I am a bit reluctant to put a beta on my office computer, so I cannot
test what you are saying.

MF http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/Courier-vs-AngsanaUPC-thai-message.gif

Yes, AngsanaUPC does not look so nice in English. That's why I liked
the former version of TB! where I could set Courier New for PTV and
AngsanaUPC for RTV.


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