Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On Mon 18-Oct-04 12:39am -0400, David Elliott wrote: Salutation TBBETA, Rumour believes that on 18 October 2004, at 20:36:55 -0500 (which was 02:36 where I live) Bill McCarthy wrote ... Here's the filter: ... Looks a bit like mine. Modify both for your own system and favorite editor. If we could only pass on the name of the folder containing the mail, we could import back to that same folder and the process would be as seamless as Becky. You can (I think). At the bottom of the Run external program it states 8= Use %1 parameter to specify the file name containing the message in RFC-822 formay. It is possible to use template macros likw %FROM, %TOLISTetc. to pass messsage properties as parameters. 8= So it looks like you can pass parameters to the batch file one of them can be folder name. Not tried but might. I tried. With the following command line: c:\util\revmsg.cmd %FolderName the batch file received, in %1, the un-expanded %FolderName :-( But maybe there's a another way that works. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature request: before after common filters
Michael Geyer wrote: What I'd like is a way to specify common filters that execute after account ones. MG So do I a long time. Indeed. Sorry about the duplicate request, but I've been away from the beta stuff for a while. Rather than reading everything, I read through a bit of the recent stuff and then just marked ~2000 messages read. I'll try to keep up now. :-) MG Please feel free and add your notes to MG https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3494 Will do, assuming I can log in to BT. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hi TBBETA, Historians believe that on 18 October 2004, at 01:05:43 -0500 (which was 07:05 where I live) Bill McCarthy wrote ... So it looks like you can pass parameters to the batch file one of them can be folder name. Not tried but might. I tried. With the following command line: c:\util\revmsg.cmd %FolderName the batch file received, in %1, the un-expanded %FolderName :-( But maybe there's a another way that works. Humm. Not what it said in the tin. :( We will have to wait for 9Val to see what he has to say. -- Cheers, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Yes, I admit, *I* snag recipes!?!?! | | Using The Bat ! 3.0.2.1 pro | | but crippled by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 | pgpC73NJ1RV4o.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid Pointer Operation
Mary Bull wrote: MB I just had my second occurrence of the Warning Dialogue Window, MB Invalid Pointer Operation. MB I created a message to tbudl, pointed and clicked on the green-arrow MB icon for Send the Message and got the Warning. MB Used Message/Send Now, and the mail went with no further problem. MB Anyone else getting this Warning? Yes, just now. The error happened *as soon* as I hit the Send now button. I looked at except.log, and though there was no corresponding entry, there are several Invalid Pointer errors. It would appear that they can be silent, as one was logged right after I sent an earlier message and I never got a UI notification. I can post the details if they'd be helpful, though I can't tie them to a specific event. Update: after typing the above, I tried to save this message as a draft. Got the Invalid Pointer error, dismissed it and got an AV: Access violation at address 001C. Read of address 001C. Switched focus away from TB! and got another AV: Access violation at address 009DC198. Read of address 025C. Then the session deteriorated into alternating Invalid Pointer and AV dialogs. I finally had to kill TB! from Task Manager. The good news is that the message was saved. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Quoting Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Doug! On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 8:49:03 PM you wrote: Ok. My ISP adds a [Probable Spam] to THIS email. I leave it there and hit send. Go ahead and set an option somewhere to remove it from my reply when you receive it. I don't think you can. I am not quite clear why your ISP does it with your outgoing post, but I see where you are heading. Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, someone's ISP adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that person replies without deleting the [Probable Spam] from the subject line, then there is nothing I can do about it without using a macro. This is a recent trend and I see it more and more -- I think this is the first year I've seen this. Maybe RitLabs will relent and let us doing something about it without a macro. 9Val? Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SC What if when you click on a header it changes the view mode but by SC default when you leave the currently viewed folder the change is SC lost. What then, would be the point of changing the viewmode? - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Marathon runners with bad footwear suffer the agony of defeat. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQXN4rtttnLhkydF1EQK4OACg9xViAIMwDuMFl2GzopbIDhCy8kEAoKPI fAPC0wBf5dGBZwHj74iiIFS8 =8l5B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV in beta 3.0.2.1
Hallo tbbeta, Just got an AV AV at address 005C379E in module thebat.exe read of address 2D6174A9 acknowledging gave me AV at address 00585532 in module thebat.exe read of address F227758C -- Groetjes, Roelof Never lean forward to push an invisible object. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpQGYA5ZcYZX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Usability enhancement: Read/ Unread Tabs
Munango-Keewati, On 16-10-2004 22:46, you [MK] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MK It would also be nice to be able to create our own tabs and hide any MK we don't want to see. Any colour group you assign to a _folder_ will make it turn up as a tab showing only the messages in that folder (think VFs for populating that folder with a selection of messages). -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 326 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: rss2mail 1.2 sample plugin is now available.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexey, ANV May be direct connection will help in situation when the old versions worked ANV fine, but the 1.1 one began to return 407. Default setup still gives 407 error but setting to 'direct connection' works. - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com He often broke into song because he couldn't find the key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQXN7wNttnLhkydF1EQIkKACZAW9fW9PCbdzcoo+R9napPpg5SSYAoOOF FEEGbFpcko+meafsmGK5oixC =NwR9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
[IGNORE] Test
Just a test for the subscription to the listing! :) -- ChristianGrams ## Harlekins-EDV ChristianGrams E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ## E-MailDisclaimer:http://www.harlekin-edv.de/email/email.html PGP-Key:http://pgp.upb.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0xD775BF12 benutze/using:TheBat!3.0.2.1 WindowsXPBuild:2600withServicePack2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello, I see that the 'Empty Folder' action do silently remove all messages, without consideration for parked messages. Is this really the way it is designed ? When I select all messages from the message list view, I get a confirmation dialog when there are parked messages. That dialog allows me to continue with removal, leaving the parked messages in place, cancel or delete everything. Having that same kind of proposal when using the Empty Folder action seems obvious for me. Are there reasons to disagree ? -- Best Regards, Olivier Mascia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Olivier, Monday, October 18, 2004, 11:36:00 AM, you wrote: I see that the 'Empty Folder' action do silently remove all messages, without consideration for parked messages. Is this really the way it is designed ? What do you mean by consideration? Empty folder removes all but the parked messages here. The parked message are not removed. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On Monday, 18 October 2004 at 10:36 (UK time), Olivier Mascia said: I see that the 'Empty Folder' action do silently remove all messages, without consideration for parked messages. Is this really the way it is designed ? Not here, I've just tested it. 'Empty folder' removes all but parked messages, just as I would expect. -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 (Home Edition) on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Alexander, Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:00:22 +0200, you wrote: I see that the 'Empty Folder' action do silently remove all messages, without consideration for parked messages. Is this really the way it is designed ? What do you mean by consideration? Empty folder removes all but the parked messages here. The parked message are not removed. I just had Empty Folder delete eveything this morning, including parked messages. But I'm using only IMAP (no POP server here). So this is an IMAP related bug. I can reproduced at will. Right-Click on a folder in the folders list, 'Empty Folder' deletes all messages, including those parked. -- Best Regards, Olivier Mascia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Olivier, On 18 October 2004 at 11:36:00GMT +0200 (which was 10:36 where I live) Olivier Mascia wrote and made these points on the subject of Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?: OM Hello, OM I see that the 'Empty Folder' action do silently remove all messages, OM without consideration for parked messages. Is this really the way it OM is designed ? Not confirmed here. Empty folder continues to work as always, leaving parked messages (one of my favourite features of TB!). - -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: The BAT! 3.0.2.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQXOkwVPsaxtteqJVEQKVCgCeJzGmkoLzq6g0rQ0EH2hD01trr3kAn35G 749uyYoX0LFRHO4C3Et9L/1t =Q4pC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Olivier, Monday, October 18, 2004, 1:05:41 PM, you wrote: What do you mean by consideration? Empty folder removes all but the parked messages here. The parked message are not removed. I just had Empty Folder delete eveything this morning, including parked messages. But I'm using only IMAP (no POP server here). So this is an IMAP related bug. I can reproduced at will. Right-Click on a folder in the folders list, 'Empty Folder' deletes all messages, including those parked. Oh, ok. I guess I should add POP3 only somewhere to my signature... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hello Michael, On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 7:02:19 AM Michael [MLW] wrote: MLW Sig too long, 4-6 lines, I count 8. This clearly shows: you can count, at least 'til 8 (12 if one read the other message too). Now you're going to to ... what? You did not even quoted correctly, but you're blaming a too line signature? You really made my day, thanks :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) It's God's responsibilty to forgive Bin Laden... It's OUR responsibilty to arrange the meeting! Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On 18/10/2004 at 12:17:23 AM, Doug Weller, [DW] wrote: Ok. I really hate the nannying thing though if it's still true RitLabs won't do this because we might misuse it. AFAIK, Ritlabs has never posted an official statement on why this feature has not been provided. If you're not too concerned with the message headers and their full preservation, you could drag the message to the Outbox, open it in the editor, edit it there and then drag it back to where you had it. BTW, you could create a manual filter that exports the message to file and opens the exported message in your editor of choice. Edit the message how you wish to and then import the finished copy. Is the editing very frequent that this would make out to be a hassle? -- -= Allie =- . Would I ask you a rhetorical question? __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Why do macros exist?
On 18/10/2004 at 12:02:03 AM, George Mitchell, [GM] wrote: There are a bunch of ways to do this stuff. The point being, with a little imagination you can have some fun, use all your macros and not annoy people. I doubt many folks will object to getting your spam statistics in occasional small doses. I think it's the quantity that puts folks off. I think you should get the TBBETA member of the month award for this suggestion. chuckle Not only is it elegant and thoughtful, but it makes for a great compromise considering the situation. ;) -- -= Allie =- . Insert New Disk for Drive C: Press ENTER when ready. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On 18/10/2004 at 1:48:50 AM, Doug Weller, [DW] wrote: Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, someone's ISP adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that person replies without deleting the [Probable Spam] from the subject line, then there is nothing I can do about it without using a macro. This is a recent trend and I see it more and more -- I think this is the first year I've seen this. Maybe RitLabs will relent and let us doing something about it without a macro. This would be covered by a single addition to the filtering. The ability to do string searching and replacing for messages. In the meantime, you can weigh your options: - tolerate it. - use a tool like X-Ray to get rid of the extra string in the subject line. That one would be perfectly fine anyway, since the original sender had not put it there in the first place. :) -- -= Allie =- . Plan to be more spontaneous. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 6:05:41 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: I just had Empty Folder delete eveything this morning, including parked messages. Hmmm. IMAP doesn't understand parking, even though one would think that it would be useful even as a purely local function in TB!. IOW's, if a message is parked locally, then it cannot be deleted from the server mailbox using TB!. The problem though is if you delete the local cache, that parked message flag is lost since the parking flag isn't stored server side. With IMAP, you're working with messages on the server. TB! just allows you to do this in a seamless fashion, i.e., as if the messages were local. TB! was initially a POP3 client extra-ordinaire. IMAP is built with that solid POP3 foundation already established. The POP3 features are all there and are seemingly functional. The local cache for each IMAP server mailbox, as represented by a TB! folder containing messages, uses the same message base format as POP3 folders. As a result, it will support all the attributes and flags that you have for POP3. However, all the special ones aren't supported by IMAP. Don't use them expecting them to be preserved after deleting the cache. Don't use them expecting them to be preserved when you move the message to another folder. Before relying on any message attribute, you have to think on whether or not the server would support it. You really shouldn't have to but TB!'s POP3 foundation makes this necessary at the moment. The IMAP server supports the standard message attributes, such as read, unread, replied, forwarded etc. It also supports storing message priority flags. Finally it supports message labelling, i.e., labels used in the IMAP protocol that TB! doesn't use. TB! uses it's proprietary colour groups labelling (lovely for POP3, but a problem for IMAP). The IMAP protocol leaves provisions for special attributes that TB! could take advantage of. Other IMAP clients wouldn't know what they mean or be able to use them, but at least these special attributes would be stored on the server. -- -= Allie =- . You're trying to pull a clinton, aren't you? __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Shortcut confusion
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 14:02, Frank Dzicher wrote: I use the CTRL + Right to jump from one unread message to another. Today I noticed that there's a difference in using the CTRL key to left or to the right. Normally I use the right CTRL key and everything works fine. Trying the left one I have to release the CTRL key and press it again to jump to the next unread message. Bug or feature? Cannot confirm, I can hold the left ctrl key down and just tap the right arrow repeatedly to browse my messages, just as I can with the right ctrl key. Can it be a bug in the v3.0.2.1 beta? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 7:07:37 AM, Allie_M, [AM] wrote: Hmmm. IMAP doesn't understand parking, even though one would think that it would be useful even as a purely local function in TB!. BTW, I just parked a few messages in my spam folder and emptied it. The parked messages remain. So I can't confirm this, unless your cache was deleted and rebuilt with your not realizing this. This would mean that the parked attribute would be lost. My previous message explains why. -- -= Allie =- . Question Authority, ask me anything __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Crashes and VCard Bug
I've started to have a series of crashes with my current version of the Bat. They are hard to reproduce yet I do get AV errors. I'll continue to monitor and then report when I have something reproducible. In the meantime, can I get an answer from somewhere on the VCard issue. I've heard nothing about if this going to be addressed. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk 99 Bronte Road - Suite 815 Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6L 3B7 Phone 905/825-9938 Office E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Quality Lab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Allie, Mon, 18 Oct 2004 07:07:37 -0500, you wrote: On 18/10/2004 at 6:05:41 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: I just had Empty Folder delete eveything this morning, including parked messages. Hmmm. IMAP doesn't understand parking, even though one would think that it would be useful even as a purely local function in TB!. Wrong. Test it. Look at a server-side log of the IMAP session when you switch on or off a Park flag. TB! seems to use the \Draft flag to manage the Park status on the server-side. That may not be a good idea. But that's how it works with TB!. This is because I discovered TB! somehow remembers on the server-side the parking status that I started using it. I can set Park on a message, log on another PC with TB, access my mailbox and see the Park flag there. It works very well when I try to delete a message or a thread from the message list window. I correctly get a dialog asking if I really intend to also delete the parked messages or if I delete everything else except parked messages. Just the 'Empty Folder' using a right-click on a folder in the folder list empties everything without care for parked messages. I tested it again on 3 folders, two of them which I just created for the test. PS: Allie, I have used IMAP for years (and I just don't mean 2 or 3 by writing this) and never had my hands back on POP for the same time. Your explanation about IMAP was interesting and correct. But here the facts are different. RT seems to have chosen to use the \Draft flag (which they doesn't seem to use for anything else) to store the Parking state. -- Best Regards, Olivier Mascia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Different greeting depending on .domain
Hello Kian, On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:12:07 +0200 (16.10.2004 19:12 my local time), received Saturday, October 16, 2004 at 22:31:48 +0600, you wrote about Different greeting depending on .domain, at least in part: KA Is it possible to have The Bat! make the different greetings depending on KA .dk or .everythingelse Yes, and you have at least two choices 1. Old, used by me (was written long time ago by Marck) %SETPATTREGEXP=[EMAIL PROTECTED](\w*)?$%REGEXPMATCH=%TOADDR - extract TLD from recipient's address, which you can handle as you want 2. New style (untested by me yet) - using plugin Langselector, which defines two new macros %setlang - define new nameset, based on characters in it %islang - test used in OTEXT nameset on creating reply BTW - author can give more detailed explanation, it's here, Alexey N. Vinogradov I'm afraid (personally), that it will be not able differentiate between different 8-bit languages (Spanish and French, for example) and usable in case One 8-bit language + 1 pure 7-bit -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 3.0.1.33 POP3 Catcher 2.0.923.1620 MyMacros 1.11a AnotherMacros 0.3.21 /24ED1B1E0/ Useless Macro Collection 1.3.387 Weakened by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: using the colour filter
Hello Chris, On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:20:26 -0400 (17.10.2004 11:20 my local time), received Monday, October 18, 2004 at 17:30:50 +0600, you wrote about using the colour filter, at least in part: C it seems when I create a filter for incoming mail all the types of C filters seem to work except colour. I hate screenshots (most times), but sometimes one image can say more, that 1000 words Here part of my Fresh-spam folder with color indication of different sorts of ToDo tasks -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 3.0.1.33 POP3 Catcher 2.0.923.1620 MyMacros 1.11a AnotherMacros 0.3.21 /24ED1B1E0/ Useless Macro Collection 1.3.387 Weakened by Windows XP 5.1.2600attachment: sh.gif Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 7:59:33 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: PS: Allie, I have used IMAP for years (and I just don't mean 2 or 3 by writing this) and never had my hands back on POP for the same time. Your explanation about IMAP was interesting and correct. But here the facts are different. RT seems to have chosen to use the \Draft flag (which they doesn't seem to use for anything else) to store the Parking state. I stand corrected. :) Thanks for that piece of clarification which I just confirmed. Upon checking, I see that the message flagging attribute is also stored server side. Some of the fixes are sneaking in. ;) Colour groups and memos are the only unsupported attributes server side. Down to just those. Good progress. :) -- -= Allie =- . Every thing in this world is an idea acted on. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
Hello Stuart, Stuart here: Monday, October 18, 2004, 3:02:38 AM, you wrote: SC What if when you click on a header it changes the view mode but by SC default when you leave the currently viewed folder the change is SC lost. SH What then, would be the point of changing the viewmode? I often read my email on a computer upstairs, but make sure it gets stored on a computer downstairs. When I do this I need to quickly sort and filter my inbox content. By clicking on the From Header I can sort it by from and select all the mail from the same person to delete or move to another directory. I then have to remember to change it back by clicking,usually twice, on the Created Header to return it to my regular view. Or what about errant clicks where instead of clicking on the message you mean to click on you hit the header and accidentally change the viewmode. Or what if you want to temporarily sort by priority, or subject, or size, for whatever reason to see a pattern. It would be nice to not have to worry about returning to the old viewmode before leaving the folder. Many different reasons for many different people. ;) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Filter does not move message ?
Bonjour ! Since the current beta I think, it seems that my filter does not move message to trash until I switch to another folder and comme back to the current. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [C802E690.01C48FC1.4E4E4E93.00B01AE6] Name: Submit\20spam\20to\20SpamRBL Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5Ceasysoft\5CTrash MarkRead CreateMessage template %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A address [EMAIL PROTECTED] ExportMessage Kludges OverwriteExist FmtUnix filename C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt IsManual IsActive IsHotkey IsHotkeyOnly IsSendQueue endFilter -- Cedric - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DH/DSS)PGP-key Server ID: 0xBDD6E604 Haute-Vitesse au Quebec | Des remises sur vos achats ? http://www.haute-vitesse.org | http://www.achatclub.ca Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Finally I found the problem of high CPU
Dear Greg, -- Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004, 20:49:03: Why don't you add a template for new reply messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the AB, then add the following to the templates: This way no one will ever have to ask. :-) Not a bad idea! didn't know you Can do this ;)) Thanks for the tip! -- best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Why do macros exist?
Dear NetVicious, -- Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004, 23:58:35: [...] and miniRelayPlug. Could you please let us know about this Plug-in? -- best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cannot Close The Bat! except with Task Manager [was Re: 3.0.2.1 (Beta/1) Bug?]
Dear Mary, -- Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004, 16:15:24: EC Yes I will. 'hggdh' will open one for me for now. Probably I EC will/have to reregister in BT so as I can add my comments. EC Marry, would you have to proper URL where to register at BT? Cannot help but smile at your typo. Looks like something out of a dialogue from Shakespeare. vbg You make me curious Mary ... -- best regards www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Different greeting depending on .domain
Hi Alexander, just now (on 10/18/2004 at 14:38) you chipped in: KA Is it possible to have The Bat! make the different greetings depending on KA .dk or .everythingelse Yes, and you have at least two choices And both are not very usable. 1. Old, used by me (was written long time ago by Marck) %SETPATTREGEXP=[EMAIL PROTECTED](\w*)?$%REGEXPMATCH=%TOADDR - extract TLD from recipient's address, which you can handle as you want And what is about domains like gmx.com, aol.com etc? The TLD isn't usable for a definition of the language. 2. New style (untested by me yet) - using plugin Langselector, which defines two new macros Also not usable, you said it already. I have made different template- and cookie-files which can be selected with an x-Header X-Language (see my header) which will also be used to set the spell checker and use different templates with variables. The selection of the language works on different ways: 1. The template looks for a X-Language-Header in the original mail and set the new X-Language-Header to the same. 2. The template looks for different words, which only are used in ONE language (i only speak german and english). If one of the words is found in the original mail (when i reply to a mail) the header will be set to the Language-Code. 3. If no words are found (also when i write a new mail) the template looks if the recipient has a country-entry in the adressbook and select with this entry, which language will be used. 4. If auto-selection fail, a standard-language will be used. 5. You can set the X-Language-Header manually in the editor. The complete package currently is only availabe in german and englisch (german installation description only at the moment), but if someone is interested i could make an english version and release it in this list. The package can easly extended with new languages like danish or swedish if wanted (and someone would make the translations ;) ) -- Adios, Bernd (http://www.bd-programs.de - ICQ 12962268) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Allie, Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:13:00 -0500, you wrote: On 18/10/2004 at 7:59:33 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: PS: Allie, I have used IMAP for years (and I just don't mean 2 or 3 by writing this) and never had my hands back on POP for the same time. Your explanation about IMAP was interesting and correct. But here the facts are different. RT seems to have chosen to use the \Draft flag (which they doesn't seem to use for anything else) to store the Parking state. I stand corrected. :) Thanks for that piece of clarification which I just confirmed. Glad you can confirm it works the same on your side. :) Do you also confirm that the 'Empty Folder' through a right-click on the folder name do remove all parked messages as well, while deleting messages from the message pane do correctly warn about and allows to delete everything except parked messages ? Upon checking, I see that the message flagging attribute is also stored server side. Some of the fixes are sneaking in. ;) This one was really expected. And I know many other imap clients which also handle it, because there is an Imap flag '\Flagged'. So for this one, it is perfectly correct that TB! reflect the client-side flag to the server-side flag. I used it for years with another mail client (Becky!). Becky has no park flag. But it allows you to set in your configuration that you do not want to delete any flagged message. So basically, Becky allows you to rely on imap \Flagged to tag messages that you want to park. With TB I can now use Flagged and Parked (\Draft) for different needs. They often overlap though. I would have lived happily only with an option not to delete my flagged messages though. Using the \Draft server flag for storing the park is a bit of a hack. But I understand TB! has no use for that \Draft flag, so perverting it for park is not that bad. Can just seem a bit odd from some other imap clients. Colour groups and memos are the only unsupported attributes server side. Down to just those. Good progress. :) Indeed. For these some support on the IMAP server side would be required. I think I read some RFC-draft proposal about handling application / user specific additional flags on an IMAP server, but I am not sure now if I had a dream or read it for sure. ;-) I'll dig some more. At least with basic IMAP 4rev1 without any extension, there is no mechanism that would allow TB! to manage color coding on the server side. -- Best Regards, Olivier Mascia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Proper positioning of Txt
Dear all, Please look at my sig. When writing it it is properly formatted and the vertical lines are in the same column. But when looking at it after it has being in the list the lines have moved like this: start = best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | end = Any Idea how I can maintain the format? -- best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 15:31, Eddie Castelli wrote: Please look at my sig. When writing it it is properly formatted and the vertical lines are in the same column. But when looking at it after it has being in the list the lines have moved like this: start = best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | end = Any Idea how I can maintain the format? View your messages using the plain text viewer. I usually do and your signature has always looked OK, but when switching to the RTV it's screwed up just like above. In other words, when editing your message, you rely on it being viewed in a plain text viewer, no matter which email client the recipient uses. Considering that many clients out there defaults to fonts not being fixed width, you might want to change your signature. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SC sort and filter my inbox content. By clicking on the From Header I SC can sort it by from and select all the mail from the same person to SC delete or move to another directory. I then have to remember to SC change it back by So, again, what's the point in it changing the viewmode? If I have a VM set and I want a temp change to, say, sorting, I would like to be able to click on the header and then forget about it. If/when I return to this folder the original VM should still apply. I can't see the point in getting TB! to change the VM only to forget the changes the instant I leave the folder. - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQXPHDdttnLhkydF1EQLyTACg4eO/eNDPdMgeYy4DQvxu6Cb74C8AnRLs VwbXh4fJmXS1R55mAeYj2MfZ =+eS7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 8:28:54 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: Do you also confirm that the 'Empty Folder' through a right-click on the folder name do remove all parked messages as well, while deleting messages from the message pane do correctly warn about and allows to delete everything except parked messages ? I'm afraid I cannot confirm this. The empty folder command doesn't delete parked messages here. -- -= Allie =- . Peace through superior firepower. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: kjh
On Monday, October 11, 2004, 16:09, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST Your version shows RC6 ;-) Just look at your message's subject - looks like you were testing the jumping text issue ;-) Stefan, you know this wasn't solved in the release version, do you? In fact, it's even worse. As soon as I hit ctrl-enter to send the message, the email address in the To: field jumps far up left and stays there, even if I cancel the confirmation dialog asking me whether to send the message or not. No jumping in the subject field, but I don't remember how things were earlier regarding this field. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Allie, Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:54:58 -0500, you wrote: On 18/10/2004 at 8:28:54 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: Do you also confirm that the 'Empty Folder' through a right-click on the folder name do remove all parked messages as well, while deleting messages from the message pane do correctly warn about and allows to delete everything except parked messages ? I'm afraid I cannot confirm this. The empty folder command doesn't delete parked messages here. Well. Then it might be related to my setting of compress folders when switching to another folder. When I Empty Folder, the message list first refreshes showing only the parked messages. So everything looks like it worked the right way. I then set the focus to another folder and then come back to this one : now they have disappeared. I'll try to better isolate / simplify the exact context of this issue before reporting again. There's no smoke without fire. :) -- Best Regards, Olivier Mascia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 7:24:28 AM, Eddie wrote: Any Idea how I can maintain the format? As Marcus has suggested, only those viewing your message that use fixed width fonts, like I do, see your signature as you would like us to. -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.2.1 on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SetHeader macro
Hello NetVicious, On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:31:21 +0200 GMT (18/10/2004, 00:31 +0700 GMT), NetVicious wrote: You need to let TB know the X-Rogue header too N Thanks a lot. I think this step should be not necessary You mean if you use the %SetHeader macro, the header should be created automatically even if it is not declared? If you put that in the wish list *and* post the URL here, I'll support it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Afrika hat an allen 4 Ecken eine rundliche Gestalt, die sich gegen die Mitte verengt. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Hello Zeynel, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:17:21 +0300 GMT (18/10/2004, 21:17 +0700 GMT), Zeynel wrote: Z Sometimes, when I clicked and scrolled the log text in status bar, it Z resizes and goes over the taskbar. This is a long standing issue for Z me, it was always there. Any confirmations? Not confirmed. When I click on the status bar (or the little arrow pointing down) it opens like a drop-down box but upwards, not down to the taskbar. Scrolling doesn't change the size at all. It has always been like that over here, under both Win98 and XP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Finally I found the problem of high CPU
Hello Eddie, On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:31:52 +0200 GMT (18/10/2004, 00:31 +0700 GMT), Eddie Castelli wrote: I cannot find your OS in the sig. What Windows version are you using? EC W2k/SP3 Thanks, I saw that in the bugreport now also. I asked because I thought the problem is Win98-specific. -- Cheers, Thomas. Signs Your Co-Worker Is A Hacker: When asked for their phone number, they give it in hex. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filter does not move message ?
Cedric, Monday, October 18, 2004, 2:16:07 PM, you wrote: Bonjour ! Since the current beta I think, it seems that my filter does not move message to trash until I switch to another folder and comme back to the current. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [C802E690.01C48FC1.4E4E4E93.00B01AE6] Name: Submit\20spam\20to\20SpamRBL Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5Ceasysoft\5CTrash MarkRead CreateMessage template %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A address [EMAIL PROTECTED] ExportMessage Kludges OverwriteExist FmtUnix filename C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt IsManual IsActive IsHotkey IsHotkeyOnly IsSendQueue endFilter I believe that this is a known bug in the current beta, hopefully will be sorted out in the next one -- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 Using TheBat! 3.0.2.1 and BayesIt! 0.7.3 :irl-flag: pgp2PcwXm7QMD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Google Desktop TB!
Hi, I think it'd be great if Google Desktop could index my TB! email files. I realize TB! has its own search facility, but the ability to search my entire computer at once would be pretty cool. With that said, if you think this would be nice as well, please let Google know at: http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/request.py?type=featuressubmit=Continue If you don't think it'd be worthwhile, no need to start a huge thread on the matter. Just don't tell Google you want it. They won't add it unless there's a lot of support for it (it's probably a long shot anyway). -- Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Zeynel [Z], wrote: TF Not confirmed. When I click on the status bar (or the little arrow TF pointing down) it opens like a drop-down box but upwards, not down to TF the taskbar. Scrolling doesn't change the size at all. It has always TF been like that over here, under both Win98 and XP. Z I just discovered it happens when TB! checking the mail. It grows to Z very bottom of the screen while I scrolled it up. Yes, I've seen it occasionally... and yes, these are the correct steps to reproduce it (see image.) What's the bugtrack reference? -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The business of everybody is the business of nobody. LORD MCCAULAY ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.1 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2)attachment: log.png Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Why do macros exist?
Hello Michael, Monday, October 18, 2004, 5:42:01 AM, you wrote: MLW Why do so many macros exist, when no one wants to see them used. BayesIT! MLW has macros, Bayes Filter has macros, MyMAcros has macros, Zombie has MLW MAcros, yet no one seems to use them and no one wants them included in MLW messages. Why? I did use the macros, but IMO, TB should extend the macros to the scripts. Just like the shell scripts(batch file) on Unix(windows) system. -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Shortcut confusion
Hallo Frank, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:02:29 +0200GMT (18-10-2004, 14:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: FD Trying the left one I have to release the CTRL key and press it again to FD jump to the next unread message. Bug or feature? Cannot confirm. -- Groetjes, Roelof 0100111011010110000111 - Well, computers think it's funny. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpFJDuiyXdrN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 9:02:29 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: Well. Then it might be related to my setting of compress folders when switching to another folder. When I Empty Folder, the message list first refreshes showing only the parked messages. So everything looks like it worked the right way. I then set the focus to another folder and then come back to this one : now they have disappeared. Ok. I confirm the behaviour now. Initially, after doing the empty folder operation deletes all except the parked messages. When I move to another folder, the compress on exit kicks in, deleting the parked messages. So it would seem that though the parked flag seems to be supported, there's a problem. When you empty the folder, the folder is indeed emptied server side. The server doesn't care about the message being marked as parked, since it's treated just like any other attribute. However, locally, the cache is using the POP3 base format so the parked messages remain in the list .. until you compress it. Compression deletes all those messages in the list that aren't on the server. Do we expect otherwise? ;) Unless TB! stops using the 'empty folder' command and instead, make the empty folder menu item delete all messages except the parked ones. -- -= Allie =- . Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SetHeader macro
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:24:18 +0700GMT (18-10-2004, 16:24 +0200, where I live), you wrote: You need to let TB know the X-Rogue header too N Thanks a lot. I think this step should be not necessary TF You mean if you use the %SetHeader macro, the header should be created TF automatically even if it is not declared? If you put that in the TF wish list *and* post the URL here, I'll support it. Me too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Experiencing synaptical difficulties; Please stand by. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpvpTw5nqZXa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 4:51:55 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Doug Weller everyone else 16-Okt-2004 16:54, you wrote: I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client should allow: ability to edit both subject and text of incoming emails (as well as repair threads) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hello Doug! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:48:50 AM you wrote: Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, someone's ISP adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that person replies without deleting the [Probable Spam] from the subject line, then there is nothing I can do about it without using a macro. Ah, now I understand the wish. The correct solution is obviously the one replying should clean up the subject line. Which is why I once or twice have replied to threads on this list to just do that. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Paying for movies is like paying for sex - if it's free it feels better. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Sometimes, when I clicked and scrolled the log text in status bar, it resizes and goes over the taskbar. This is a long standing issue for me, it was always there. Any confirmations? I'm sorry for throwing the thread off a bit, but I didn't see the original message. Yes, I can confirm this. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hello Dwight! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 6:33:24 PM you wrote: Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client should allow: Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client should allow this kind of tinkering. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request He who hesitates is probably right. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Hi TBBeta, Not confirmed. When I click on the status bar (or the little arrow pointing down) it opens like a drop-down box but upwards, not down to the taskbar. Regarding the opening of the statusbar upwards, that is common behaviour of Windows controls. If the submenu doesn't fit at the right it is shown on the left. If the drop-down doesn't fit below it is shown on top. May be unintuitive but that's what it will be forever I suppose. Scrolling doesn't change the size at all. It has always been like that over here, under both Win98 and XP. Happened here sometimes, too. But never since the introduction of the new status panel. I thought this error was gone. -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Hello Raymund, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:05:04 +0200 GMT (19/10/2004, 00:05 +0700 GMT), Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: Not confirmed. When I click on the status bar (or the little arrow pointing down) it opens like a drop-down box but upwards, not down to the taskbar. RTT Regarding the opening of the statusbar upwards, that is common RTT behaviour of Windows controls. I know. That's why I think the arrow should point up. Scrolling doesn't change the size at all. It has always been like that over here, under both Win98 and XP. RTT Happened here sometimes, too. But never since the introduction of the RTT new status panel. I thought this error was gone. OK, I have seen some people confirm the problem, it just doesn't happen here, so I'll be quiet. -- Cheers, Thomas. The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hi Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 5:41:33 PM, you wrote: Dierk Hello Doug! Dierk On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:48:50 AM you wrote: Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, someone's ISP adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that person replies without deleting the [Probable Spam] from the subject line, then there is nothing I can do about it without using a macro. Dierk Ah, now I understand the wish. The correct solution is obviously the Dierk one replying should clean up the subject line. Which is why I once or Dierk twice have replied to threads on this list to just do that. But people don't do that, sadly. I belong to a lot of lists to do with dog agility and cooking, and this sort of thing is pretty common. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hi Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 5:56:25 PM, you wrote: Dierk On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 6:33:24 PM you wrote: Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client should allow: Dierk Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client should allow Dierk this kind of tinkering. Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, it's editing. I can already delete attachments, which is editing. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On 18/10/2004 at 11:56:25 AM, Dierk Haasis, [DH] wrote: Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client should allow this kind of tinkering. It already does. Just export the message to file. Tinker at will. Import the 'tinkered' message and delete the original. This is very easy to do too. A manual filter could make that first step of exporting and opening the message in notepad or your favourite editor a breeze. This one opens the message in notepad after exporting to rfc-822 format. :) TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [8F1049C0.01C4B535.41B5BA4A.2AF79179] Name: Edit\20Message Filter: {\0D\0A\20`21\0D\0A} ExportMessage Kludges OverwriteExist FmtRFC822 filename C:\5Ctbedit.txt RunExternal CmdLine C:\5CWindows\5CNotepad.exe\20%1 IsManual IsActive IsHotkey IsHotkeyOnly Ignore endFilter You could create another filter that imports the message to the Inbox when finished. You then move your new message to the desired location. -- -= Allie =- . Everyone hates me because I'm paranoid __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Useability Enhancement: Reply with selected quote
Hello Munango-Keewati everyone else 17-Okt-2004 19:56, you wrote: This sounds great, but only if your correspondents are using a threaded email client. I don't know that any of mine are. Most client do include the in-reply-to and/or references headers. Exceptions are MS Outlook when sending via Exchange server, and a couple of stupid webmailers... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: The Night Before I Left by Pete Namlook from the 1999 album 'Silence 4' Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
Hello Allie, Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:24:03 -0500, you wrote: On 18/10/2004 at 9:02:29 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: Well. Then it might be related to my setting of compress folders when switching to another folder. When I Empty Folder, the message list first refreshes showing only the parked messages. So everything looks like it worked the right way. I then set the focus to another folder and then come back to this one : now they have disappeared. Ok. I confirm the behaviour now. Initially, after doing the empty folder operation deletes all except the parked messages. When I move to another folder, the compress on exit kicks in, deleting the parked messages. ... Do we expect otherwise? ;) Unless TB! stops using the 'empty folder' command and instead, make the empty folder menu item delete all messages except the parked ones. Yes we do expect otherwise. ;-) There is no such thing as an empty folder in imap. Correct me if I'm wrong. There is an 'EXPUNGE' command. But that one really removes all those messages that have the '\Deleted' flag. Not any others. So TB! has to actually request the deletion of all the messages, then the 'compress' actually expunge the deleted messages. Which means that TB! can perfectly delete messages that are not parked, then expunge on compress. That's just a bug RT has to fix. :) -- Best Regards, Olivier Mascia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hello Doug! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 7:25:13 PM you wrote: Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, it's editing. I can already delete attachments, which is editing. Good point. I am not a great friend of tinkering with message texts or headers of received messages, mainly for jurisdictional reasons. When messages can easily be edited in that way (change of headers and message text) they can no longer be used in legal actions. Already German judges do tend to regard e-mail as much inferior to printed matter. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Don't judge people by their relatives. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Hi Thomas, RTT Regarding the opening of the statusbar upwards, that is common RTT behaviour of Windows controls. I know. That's why I think the arrow should point up. As it is a common control it won't show up. It never does in any program, why should it in TB! (Well they can write their own control which points up, but there are so many better things to do :-)) Scrolling doesn't change the size at all. It has always been like that over here, under both Win98 and XP. RTT Happened here sometimes, too. But never since the introduction of the RTT new status panel. I thought this error was gone. OK, I have seen some people confirm the problem, it just doesn't happen here, so I'll be quiet. Me, too. I haven't seen the bug for a while now and hope I do not see it again. -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 12:31:40 PM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: Yes we do expect otherwise. ;-) There is no such thing as an empty folder in imap. Correct me if I'm wrong. There is an 'EXPUNGE' command. But that one really removes all those messages that have the '\Deleted' flag. Not any others. So TB! has to actually request the deletion of all the messages, then the 'compress' actually expunge the deleted messages. Isn't there an empty folder command? I mean it in a subtle sense. If you select 5 messages in the folder and delete them, how many commands are sent to the server? I don't know if it's one listing the message ids for the messages to be marked as deleted or if it's 5 separate commands. Now, how would an empty folder command be handled? It could be non-specific, or it could take the time to list the messages to be marked as deleted when it's really not necessary. I suspect that the empty folder command is likely not specifying particular messages to flag as deleted and this is why the one's with the parked attribute are being caught in the mix. -- -= Allie =- . Honey, PLEASE don't pick up the [EMAIL PROTECTED]$^(#@$^%(*NO CARRIER __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
Hello Stuart, Monday, October 18, 2004, 8:37:15 AM, you wrote: SH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH Hash: SHA1 SC sort and filter my inbox content. By clicking on the From Header I SC can sort it by from and select all the mail from the same person to SC delete or move to another directory. I then have to remember to SC change it back by SH So, again, what's the point in it changing the viewmode? SH If I have a VM set and I want a temp change to, say, sorting, I would SH like to be able to click on the header and then forget about it. SH If/when I return to this folder the original VM should still apply. I SH can't see the point in getting TB! to change the VM only to forget the SH changes the instant I leave the folder. I don't get your point. When you click on the header to do a temporary sort,it changes the viewmode permanently. What you describe above is what happens. Give it a try. Change you sort order by clicking on a header. Now leave the folder and then come back again. The folder will now be using the change you made, not the original sort order. This has also made a change to all folders using this viewmode. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hi Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 6:40:28 PM, you wrote: Dierk Hello Doug! Dierk On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 7:25:13 PM you wrote: Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, it's editing. I can already delete attachments, which is editing. Dierk Good point. Dierk I am not a great friend of tinkering with message texts or headers of Dierk received messages, mainly for jurisdictional reasons. When messages Dierk can easily be edited in that way (change of headers and message text) Dierk they can no longer be used in legal actions. Already German judges do Dierk tend to regard e-mail as much inferior to printed matter. I think it's too late to shut the barn door. As we know, this can already be done within TB with macros, so why not legitimate it? If you want an email client which won't let you tamper with the email at all, TB isn't the one. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP Bug with Shared Folders
hi list, I have two shared folders on my cyrus-imap-server for spamchecking, accessible for all known users. The Server is configured with: userprefix: user sharedprefix: SPAM My shared folders are named True and False +- Inbox +- Outbox +- Sent +- Trash +- SPAM-local +- SPAM -- (public shared) +- True +- False I can suscribe, select and use these folders. But if I select SPAM The Bat says where is an error from server: !18.10.2004, 19:58:14: IMAP - Cannot select the mailbox SPAM. Server reports: Invalid mailbox name I'm looking with google for Invalid mailbox name and found this: ---cut-- - Original Message - From: Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: [courier-users] Re: Funny shared folders in Outlook Express Andreas Lund writes: [...] But we're stuck on a different issue, not a critical one but it's sure to cause some confusion if we roll it into production. In Outlook Express, this is what a user would see: my.server.name +- Inbox +- Shared +- UserA +- SharedFolderA +- UserB +- SharedFolderB Now, if he clicks on Shared, UserA or UserB he gets an error message: Could not select 'foldername' on the IMAP server. You might try refreshing your folder list to synchronize with the IMAP server. and Invalid mailbox. File a bug report with Microsoft. Those hierarchy entries have a \Noselect flag, but their crapware is ignoring it, and tries to open them nevertheless. ---cut-- It's related to Outlook, but the problem is the same. Can TB not handle the \Noselect - flag? Or is my server missconfigured? Anyone confirm? best regards Gabriel Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 19:15, Thomas Fernandez wrote: RTT Regarding the opening of the statusbar upwards, that is common RTT behaviour of Windows controls. I know. That's why I think the arrow should point up. Make sure there is enough room below your TB! window and the status bar will open downwards. As others have said before, it's standard Windows behaviour and the standard for the button arrow is to point downwards. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello TBBETA Members! I have a very strange experience with the current TB EXE: Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to the Internet. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request A man cannot be comfortable without his own approval. (Mark Twain) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 19:55, Stuart Cuddy wrote: SH So, again, what's the point in it changing the viewmode? I don't get your point. Isn't this just a question of semantics? You (Stuart Cuddy) are talking about the reasons to temporarily change the sort order while Stuart Hemming is talking about the rational for TB! changing the used view mode when changing sort order. You are using the term changing the view mode to describe what happens today, Stuart Hemming uses it to describe what he think TB! *should* do (or rather should not do). Am I right? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hi Dierk Haasis, Monday, October 18, 2004 you let us know -at least in parts- : Hello TBBETA Members! I have a very strange experience with the current TB EXE: Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to the Internet. Did you run recently any cleaning program such as PurgatioPro or jv16 powertools? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 20:32, Dierk Haasis wrote: Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to the Internet. I suppose you acknowledge the change when first launching TB! after upgrading? If so, first make sure your TB! exe is not infected with anything. If it is not, this is probably just F-Secure having problems storing the new hash for TB!. I've seen it happen with Kerio and that time I was certain no change had been made (no, it wasn't TB!, but that really doesn't matter). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Dierk, On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:32:01 PM Dierk [DH] wrote: DH I have a very strange experience with the current TB EXE: DH Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has DH been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to DH the Internet. Maybe your F-Secure does not store the new checksum properly? I know for sure my .exe ain't changed, Kerio only moans once, at first start after an update. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Shortcut confusion
Hi Frank and list, On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 14:02:29 GMT +0200 (which was 14:02 where I live) Frank Dzicher wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Shortcut confusion: Trying the left one I have to release the CTRL key and press it again to jump to the next unread message. Bug or feature? Confirmed. Never noticed before :-( -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: SetHeader macro
Good evening Roelof, on Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:30:05 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: TF You mean if you use the %SetHeader macro, the header should be created TF automatically even if it is not declared? If you put that in the TF wish list *and* post the URL here, I'll support it. RO Me too. hmmm... I am not really sure. This would simplify the procedure, of course. But the necessity to declare the header first reduces the chance of typos inside the templates [e.g. setheader(x-rouge,:rogue:)] and also most likely reduces the appearance of messages with nonsence headers. If the user is forced to DEFINE what he wants to insert at another place, he at least has to *think* ;-) a bit. Therefore I'd vote to leave it at the current state. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs SecureBat! 2.12.4 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hi Peter Palmreuther, Monday, October 18, 2004 you let us know -at least in parts- : Maybe your F-Secure does not store the new checksum properly? I know for sure my .exe ain't changed, Kerio only moans once, at first start after an update. That has been the reason here for some strange side-effects some software showed, and the cause therefor was that I did run a cleaning tool, which promised to clean up only unused dlls, links leading to nowhere and so on. After a restore all was fine again. So maybe the checksum cannot be memorized because of a missing (deleted) part in Kerio or F-secure. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
Hi Marcus and list, On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 15:38:14 GMT +0200 (which was 15:38 where I live) Marcus Ohlström wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Proper positioning of Txt: start = best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | end = Any Idea how I can maintain the format? View your messages using the plain text viewer. I usually do and your signature has always looked OK, but when switching to the RTV it's screwed up just like above. Cannot confirm your suggestion. My PTV uses Courier New 10pt, likewise my RTV. In both Eddie's sig look skewed. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SetHeader macro
Hi Peter, on Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:44:24 +0200GMT, you wrote: TF You mean if you use the %SetHeader macro, the header should be created TF automatically even if it is not declared? If you put that in the TF wish list *and* post the URL here, I'll support it. RO Me too. PH hmmm... I am not really sure. This would simplify the procedure, of course. PH But the necessity to declare the header first reduces the chance of typos PH inside the templates [e.g. PH setheader(x-rouge,:rogue:)] and also most PH likely reduces the appearance of messages with nonsence headers. If the PH user is forced to DEFINE what he wants to insert at another place, he at PH least has to *think* ;-) a bit. PH Therefore I'd vote to leave it at the current state. I fully agree, that it is better to define the header first before implementing it in messages. You gave the reasons. :-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? Winamp currently playing: Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Mystery Girl (Touch And Go) (Global Pop Conspiracy Radio) See headers for public key. pgpdUGvwtPf7j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Charlene! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:34:55 PM you wrote: Did you run recently any cleaning program such as PurgatioPro or jv16 powertools? No. For a time I wasn't quite sure if I had installed a new EXE, but for a few days now TB is hasn't been changed by me. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Life is a sexually transmitted disease. (Alexander Veljanov) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Marcus! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:37:08 PM you wrote: I suppose you acknowledge the change when first launching TB! after upgrading? Yes, and checking Don't ask again for this program. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request The ask-first principle: to find out whether an action is right or wrong, ask first. (Michael Shermer) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Peter! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:37:47 PM you wrote: Maybe your F-Secure does not store the new checksum properly? I know for sure my .exe ain't changed, Kerio only moans once, at first start after an update. Must be an F-Secure problem. I'll dig deeper on that side. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Why is the man who invests all your hard earned money called a broker? Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: SetHeader macro
lunes, 18 oct 2004 at 16:24, it seems you wrote: You mean if you use the %SetHeader macro, the header should be created automatically even if it is not declared? If you put that in the wish list *and* post the URL here, I'll support it. Done. You have it here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3960 -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.7.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 61% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hi Dierk, on Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:32:01 +0200GMT, you wrote: DH I have a very strange experience with the current TB EXE: DH Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has DH been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to DH the Internet. I use Kerio PF, and it only asks for confirmation when I really changed the exe. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM Winamp currently playing: Chumbawamba - Tubthumping (Frequence3 -- www.Frequence3.org - Une Rafale De Tubes - The French Webradio live from Paris France) pgpDlDZkkrGJ3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 12:18:00 PM, Michael wrote: Cannot confirm your suggestion. My PTV uses Courier New 10pt, likewise my RTV. In both Eddie's sig look skewed. Confirm you are using that same font for signatures as well, because when I use Courier New 10pt the signatures look fine. -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.2.1 on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Why do macros exist?
lunes, 18 oct 2004 at 15:21, it seems you wrote: Could you please let us know about this Plug-in? miniRelay it's a little Relay Server, it only send mails to other mail server, it don't haves users or mailboxes, it's only a forwarder. miniRelayPlug it a plugin for TB! to run automatically miniRelay when TB! it's opened, you also could use macros to get the version of the program. You could get more info in english here (thanks to Tim Musson): http://www.blat.net/miniRelay/ I'm the author of both programs. I made it because some spanish ISPs don't allow sending email from an non-ISP mail account. It's not a proffesional mail server but it runs fine. The plugin it's here (only in Spanish sorry) http://netvicious.iespana.es/netvicious/miniRelayPlug/miniRelayPlug.zip -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.7.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 61% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 20:51, Michael Geyer wrote: My PTV uses Courier New 10pt, likewise my RTV. In both Eddie's sig look skewed. Did you really look at his signature, or did you look at the copy of the signature he pasted in the middle of his message, the one I quoted? I believe that one was messed up by intention to make his point. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: SetHeader macro
lunes, 18 oct 2004 at 20:44, it seems you wrote: But the necessity to declare the header first reduces the chance of typos inside the templates [e.g. setheader(x-rouge,:rogue:)] and also most likely reduces the appearance of messages with nonsence headers. If the user is forced to DEFINE what he wants to insert at another place, he at least has to *think* ;-) a bit. It's an opion thanks. I think we not need a confirmation for this, there are a lot more dangerous options in TB! than this, and the others don't have a declaration elsewhere. I think when people it's playing with filters or macros the should test they before sending any message. You could test the macros saving a blank message to the outbox and checking headers with F9. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.7.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 63% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On 18/10/2004 at 9:02:29 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote: Well. Then it might be related to my setting of compress folders when switching to another folder. When I Empty Folder, the message list first refreshes showing only the parked messages. So everything looks like it worked the right way. I then set the focus to another folder and then come back to this one : now they have disappeared. Ok. I confirm the behaviour now. Initially, after doing the empty folder operation deletes all except the parked messages. When I move to another folder, the compress on exit kicks in, deleting the parked messages. So it would seem that though the parked flag seems to be supported, there's a problem. When you empty the folder, the folder is indeed emptied server side. The server doesn't care about the message being marked as parked, since it's treated just like any other attribute. However, locally, the cache is using the POP3 base format so the parked messages remain in the list .. until you compress it. Compression deletes all those messages in the list that aren't on the server. Do we expect otherwise? ;) Unless TB! stops using the 'empty folder' command and instead, make the empty folder menu item delete all messages except the parked ones. -- -= Allie =- . Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
Hi Marcus and list, On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 21:25:21 GMT +0200 (which was 21:25 where I live) Marcus Ohlström wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Proper positioning of Txt: Did you really look at his signature, Yep, I did with both PTV and RTV tsee any difference - there was none. I believe that one was messed up by intention to make his point. This one (which I quoted too) looks exactly (without the of course)like the one shown here in my preview window both with RTV and PTV. BTW: I had that look only in the preview window. That's my preferred window for reading mails. I rarely use a special msg-window (except F9 - source). -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 8:32:01 PM, you wrote: Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to the Internet. Just an idea: every time I updated BayesIt plugin (and consequently closed and re-started TB) I got that question as well. But did you change one of your plugins *every* time you started TB? Does not sound too likely IMO. -- Best regards, Peter Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB's EXE changed every time?
Good evening Peter, on Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:15 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: PA Just an idea: every time I updated BayesIt plugin (and consequently PA closed and re-started TB) I got that question as well. THAT sounds really strange to me, because a plug-in mustn't alter the mother executable at all. Any firewall application should only trigger an alert, if the file's checksum has been changed due to any modification to the exe file itself. PA But did you change one of your plugins *every* time you started TB? Does PA not sound too likely IMO. Changing any plug-in must not trigger that alert in any case. Never. Apart from that a plug-in is not linked into the exe file but loaded at runtime into memory. Therefore the application and its checksum will stay untouched, no matter how often you change your plug-ins. And AFAIK TB does not change itself, too. Long ago - remember old DOS times - it had been common practise to store configuration information inside the EXE file. Nobody talked about viruses and nobody cared about any firewalls. Today this is a deadly sin and the user would lose confidence if a programmer would tell his executable to change itself. Therefore it's most likely that Dierks problem has something to do with his firewall application which probably hasn't stored the files checksum correctly. However it did it. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs SecureBat! 2.12.4 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP Bug with Shared Folders
Gabriel [G], wrote: G I have two shared folders on my cyrus-imap-server for G spamchecking, accessible for all known users. G The Server is configured with: ...snip G +- Inbox G +- Outbox G +- Sent G +- Trash G +- SPAM-local G +- SPAM -- (public shared) G +- True G +- False G I can suscribe, select and use these folders. But if I select G SPAM The Bat says where is an error from server: G !18.10.2004, 19:58:14: IMAP - Cannot select the mailbox SPAM. Server G reports: Invalid mailbox name I presume you know that SPAM is most likely not a folder and cannot contain messages? With my server I would have two mailboxes: ;SPAM;True and ;SPAM;False in Maildir. TB! correctly identifies SPAM as non-selectable and will colour the folder text grey; eliminating the error messages. Nonetheless, I've had similar problems myself using earlier versions of TB! and found that IMAP Folder Management and Reset list can help. However, it seems that the way in which folders are created can contribute to the problem. You need to know what type of mailbox your server uses before creating new folders in TB! (and other clients.) Otherwise you may end up in a mess with TB! not identifying non-selectable folders correctly. BTW, Outlook and Outlook Express still display the error message in the message list. Once the new beta cycle starts I think it would be really helpful if IMAP users came up with some common operations we can test out on different servers. For example, creating nested folders, renaming, moving messages etc. What do you think? -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Yes, in the old days that was so, but we have changed all that. MOLIÈRE, 1622-1673 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.1 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT, typo Marry for Mary, and Elizabethan English usage [was Re: Cannot Close the Bat...]
Hello Eddie! On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 3:35 PM, you wrote, in part: EC Marry, would you have to proper URL where to register at BT? MB Cannot help but smile at your typo. Looks like something out of a MB dialogue from Shakespeare. vbg EC You make me curious Mary ... 1) In parts of the U.S. South, marry, Mary, and merry are pronounced the same. 2) In Elizabethen English (Sixteenth Century English), the word marry was often used as an exclamation, in the same way that we would say, Astonishing! or Wow! or even sometimes, simply, Well, to begin a sentence. That's in addition to its conventional meaning, the same as today, as a synonym of to wed. Example, from Shakespeare's play, *Much Ado About Nothing*: Leonato: What would you with me, honest neighbour? Dogberry: Marry, sir, I would have some confidence with you that decerns you nearly. End tutorial. My comment was just a lighthearted effort at humor. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Google Desktop TB!
Martin Schoch [MS], wrote: I think it'd be great if Google Desktop could index my TB! email files. MS Well - the security problem with Google Desktop is an other topic, I MS know, but don't forget it... I can't see any real security problems with Google Desktop and it seems I'm not alone: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1678974,00.asp. Copied to TBOT. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 He objected to ideas only when others had them. A J P TAYLOR ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.1 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT, typo Marry for Mary, and Elizabethan English usage [was Re: Cannot Close the Bat...]
Hello Mary, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 12:08:28 AM, you wrote: 1) In parts of the U.S. South, marry, Mary, and merry are pronounced the same. That must be one of the cases where people confuse me by emphasizing that they pronounce words in a certain manner while the normal way would be different they claim. How else could you pronounce it? Ah, well, I'm a Southern USler then. Howdy! -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you will look forward to the trip. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
Hello Marcus, Monday, October 18, 2004, 1:33:51 PM, you wrote: MO Isn't this just a question of semantics? You (Stuart Cuddy) are MO talking about the reasons to temporarily change the sort order while MO Stuart Hemming is talking about the rational for TB! changing the used MO view mode when changing sort order. You are using the term changing MO the view mode to describe what happens today, Stuart Hemming uses it MO to describe what he think TB! *should* do (or rather should not do). MO Am I right? That may very well be right, but we still have a duty to fight about it anyway. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Bug? Failure of Macros to Expand
Hello TB Beta List, Attempting to pass the folder name (or any other macro) to a batch file, the macro is not expanding. For example, a filter with the Execute action and command line: c:\test_bat.cmd %FolderName receives %FolderName - not expanded to the actual folder name. Is there some trick to get the macro to expand? Or is this a bug? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP Bug with Shared Folders
On Monday, October 18, 2004, Gabriel wrote... hi list, I have two shared folders on my cyrus-imap-server for spamchecking, accessible for all known users. The Server is configured with: userprefix: user sharedprefix: SPAM My shared folders are named True and False +- Inbox +- Outbox +- Sent +- Trash +- SPAM-local +- SPAM -- (public shared) +- True +- False I can suscribe, select and use these folders. But if I select SPAM The Bat says where is an error from server: !18.10.2004, 19:58:14: IMAP - Cannot select the mailbox SPAM. Server reports: Invalid mailbox name [..] It's related to Outlook, but the problem is the same. Can TB not handle the \Noselect - flag? Or is my server missconfigured? Anyone confirm? Is the folder really \NoSelect? Have you checked? It could be an issue with the server using a / instead of a . or visa versa, and the client sending the other. Telnet to your IMAP server on port 143, and do the following: # telnet ipofserver 143 A01 LOGIN username password A02 LIST * A03 LSUB * A04 LOGOUT Paste the output (removing your password obviously), and we'll be able to tell you if the \NoSelect flag exists or not. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Lifting Shadows Off a Dream pgpvWyu35XCOB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/