Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello MAU, Currently there is only few real bugs which are show-stoppers - AV on entering search (not for all), threading by references,... M H! I must admit I'm glad to hear that :) Are you glad to hear that they exist or that they are noticed? ;) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hello, 9Val! Do you mean like in attach? Hmm. and from what build we can get it? RC2? -- Ivan The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Plugins: rss2mail 1.3; Protocols: multiple POP3 on LAN/Dial-up Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello 9Val, A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on: 03 May 2005 at 23:49:47 GMT +0200 9 Incorrect comparision. It's a perfect analogy. If I built a shoddy house people would lose confidence in my ability to build houses and buy them from elsewhere. If you release a shoddy software program to the public full of bugs people will lose confidence in you and go buy Eudora or continue with Outlook Express. I'm not talking from my point of view, I signed up voluntarily to test shoddy software as did everyone on this list and I expect it to be full of holes. I also expect my time and opinion to have a certain amount of value and not be totally ignored. Many people on here have reported what for them are show stopper glitches, a great many of which have been ignored and never fixed even though they are long standing issues. 9 I think only 5-10 users from this list can make real conclusions about 9 team members reputation. I'm not trying to make any conclusions about reputations, I'm just suggesting ways you can save or improve them. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Memory leak in RC1
Hi TBBETA I previously reported a memory leak in RC1 and logged it as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531, yet have received only 1 confirmation in Bugtrack. I assume the RIT developers assign priority for fixes based on Bugtrack confirmations / requests etc, so if you have experienced this problem, please can you confirm it in bugtrack. Thx -- Graham Windows XP 5.12600 The Bat!: 3.0.9.20 Return -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 0:32:57, Gleason Pace wrote: I think that Agent can afford to take this stance because they really have no credible competition. Dialog, Gravity, ...? The only update Agent offered in years was the addition of a trash folder (and a change of the GUI so that it doesn't look like a Win3.1 program anymore). I prefer a program that's a bit less stable to a program that doesn't change in years and only lives on promises of great new features that never come. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows NT Clone 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] In order to get a loan you must first prove you don't need it. -- Bankers Axiom Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello Alto, A reminder of what Alto Speckhardt on TBBETA typed on: 03 May 2005 at 00:43:53 GMT +0200 AS Oh yes, I am flaming now! Call it boiling! :-((!! Calm down Alto. I wasn't trying to start a war, I was just trying to clarify a few things in my mind, trying to have a constructive debate rather than a flame war. I too have bought and paid for Poco, Xpress Plus, Eudora and dare I say it, Incredimail. The Bat even in this state beats all of them hands down and that's probably the root cause of my present anguish, I don't want to see TB! go downhill and lose it's reputation by the far too early release of a sub standard version. I'd rather wait an extra month for a good stable version than to be continually told Oh yes, we know about that bug every time I find one. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen
Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but surely a total PITA for many users? -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello 9Val, Currently there is only few real bugs which are show-stoppers - AV on entering search (not for all), threading by references,... M H! I must admit I'm glad to hear that :) Are you glad to hear that they exist or that they are noticed? ;) No, I am glad to hear that (if I understood correctly) you consider them show-stoppers. Which should mean you intend to correct them before release :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 9:55:57 AM, you wrote: Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but surely a total PITA for many users? I have just discovered it is entirely dependent on View Mode. Generic view mode gives no problems, but the one I usually use gives No message loaded error with blank screen. Will citing the offending view mode help? How do i do that? -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: binary trash
Hi Peter, just now (on 05/04/2005 at 11:19) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: I did not find a way yet to get rid of the two messages. TB insists on telling me that there is nothing to compress because there is no deleted message in this folder. Cache deleted? -- Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hi MAU, M No, I am glad to hear that (if I understood correctly) you consider them M show-stoppers. Which should mean you intend to correct them before M release :) Actually only references remained for you, AV on starting finder was fixed -- 9Val Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello 9Val, M No, I am glad to hear that (if I understood correctly) you consider them M show-stoppers. Which should mean you intend to correct them before M release :) Actually only references remained for you, AV on starting finder was fixed I can perfectly live and work with 3.0.2.10, so personally I'm in no hurry. But I know there are other people (many?) who consider the threading by reference issue as an important bug. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello George, This is not a bug, this is a feature :) I know, I have always maintained that. A feature that I don't like at all, but a feature. But other people consider it a bug :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hi MAU, M Calm down bit. Yes. Sorry, I was getting a little steamed about 9Val's latest comment on priority and non-priority. It is a little less than amusing to fight daily with a malfunctioning program for three years and then being assigned non-priority out of hand. M How many e-mail clients are there available in the M market? Why choose The Bat!? When I chose it, there were no alternatives. In the meantime, there have arisen some, but it takes something to make me change from a accustomed environment to a new one, especially if I had to go through the registration circle again with the new solution. We may be at that point, though. It is not long ago I had been able to recommend TheBat universally. That was a time when I thought that malfunctions (to call them bugs would be a gross understatement) would be worked on. Instead the ones responsible spend their time painting new colours on the buttons! Incredible! :-(( Sorry, steam rising again. M No software of this kind will ever satisfy M every user 100%. I'll grant that for e.g. TheBat not being able to use standard LF/CR handling in the editor. It hurts me every day, but if this is just TheBat's way I can't say much against it. But on other issues this doesn't work. TheBat is sold as IMAP-capable. Still, IMAP doesn't work. This is not something to be liked or not, it is a serious malfunction. If we were talking about cars the government would withdraw RIT's license for selling this vehicle. It's only the software business where engineers still think they can get away with a product where 51% of the features are working in some way. M If your % of satisfaction with TB is as low as it seems from your M message, why suffer? Go find another one. I am at that point. Up until the last few days I could not bring myself to believe that the disinterested neglegence RIT exhibits really stems from facts. I thought they were busy working in the meantime instead of writing messages. Apparently, this is not the case. They don't even pretend to be. It's at least honest, but they still won't score a cookie for it. M Let's be reasonable. We are talking about a magnificent and quite M complex piece of software (and therefore with bugs) [...] I'm not challenging that. I'm a programmer myself, and rationally I understand the reason that there always will be bugs. But when I market a program, I react to people's needs, concerns and suggestions. I do not develop in a direction that is neither needed nor wanted and leave my customers hanging out on the lim in the meantime. I especially don't just re-lable an alpha version that has not fixed any bugs but, on the contrary, introduced a bucket full of new ones as a release version. M If after purchasing and using it for some time (years in your case, M I think) someone finds his/her % of satisfaction is low, why M suffer? Look for another one, buy it and use it happily. You're absolutly right. I will have to go that path. It is difficult for me though, because not only have I myself used TheBat for quite a while but recommended it to friends and clients, some of whom have themselves bought licenses. It's not nice to go to them and admit that I seriously misjudged the fitness of the authors of the program and that I'm sorry, but they should better use something else as well. This is not something you enjoy. Because, see - I DO care for the users I service, private or commercial. My mistake was to apply that standard to RIT, too. -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpKyZK3GEOhB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: fix all bugs
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 0:32:57, Gleason Pace wrote: I think that Agent can afford to take this stance because they really have no credible competition. Dialog, Gravity, ...? The only update Agent offered in years was the addition of a trash folder (and a change of the GUI so that it doesn't look like a Win3.1 program anymore). I prefer a program that's a bit less stable to a program that doesn't change in years and only lives on promises of great new features that never come. Agreed. I dumped Agent in favor of Dialog as Agent v2 seemed to be vaporware. The trash folder thing was the last straw. I lived with Agent for years using it for email, too until I found TB v1.5 so to me, there is a definite limit to how long one can stand still and not get clobbered by the competition. lament But why do I still secretly yearn for TB 1.63 with just a *few* more UI features? V3 is superior in so many ways, but the complexity and the 40mb+ mem usage... /lament -- Neal Laugman, lover of MicroEd Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 (with a gig of ram) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5 RC 1 -TB terminates connection
Hei Charlene, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 11:22:51 PM, you [CF] wrote: CF I played with my IMAP account and disabled all automatic connections CF (startup, every xx minutes and so on). CF and now TB behaves as expected: No closing connections on exit. CF Is it just me or anyone else? Nope, I can confirm this with no problem. Actually I told about my similar experiences some time ago on the list too. -- Tero Ripattila Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hello Ivan, Ivan wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Do you mean like in attach? Hmm. and from what build we can get it? RC2? Oh no, please not, please not, please not, -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
On Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 18:05:34, 9Val wrote: Do you mean like in attach? Suggestion: don't remove *'s, /'s and _'s just in case TB gets it wrong. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows NT Clone 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When you arrive at your chosen campsite, it is full. -- Barber's Ninth Law of Backpacking Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen
Hello Chris Wilson everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 10:55 you (Chris Wilson) wrote: Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but surely a total PITA for many users? In the message pane? Where do you double click? I can click where I want, but no blank screen opens. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) How on earth are you ever going to explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? -- Albert Einstein Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005 @ 1:46:17 AM [-0700], Tony Boom wrote: I too have bought and paid for Poco, Xpress Plus, Eudora and dare I say it, Incredimail. Oh my, Incredimail... The Bat even in this state beats all of them hands down So true. I've become frustrated with IMAP on many occasions and have run off to try the others. After about 10 minutes I realize that I cannot do all of the great things I was able to do with TB (Templates, filtering, etc) and come running home with my tail between my legs to give it another try. -- Matt Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hello Boris Anders everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 18:35 you (Boris Anders) wrote: Do you mean like in attach? Hmm. and from what build we can get it? RC2? Oh no, please not, please not, please not, Whats the problem, if its already there and it already works? Just because someone says but mommy said you never add new features to an RC!, thats still not a valid point to NOT add a new feature right NOW when we have the chance... I'd rather not wait another year for it! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Man is still the best computer that we can put aboard a spacecraft - and the only one that can be mass-produced with unskilled labor. -- Wernher von Braun Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello Tony Boom everyone else, on 03-Mai-2005 at 23:07 you (Tony Boom) wrote: Yahoo Whats yahoo got to do with it? We're on TBBETA, not TBOT. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) There is no sweeter sound than the crumbling of your fellow man. -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen
Hi Alexander S. Kunz, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : In the message pane? Where do you double click? I can click where I want, but no blank screen opens. Same here -fortunately. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 15:19 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: It is a little less than amusing to fight daily with a malfunctioning program for three years and then being assigned non-priority out of hand Three years? Well, if you're still using that bugpested program... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 16:41, Neal Laugman wrote: Agreed. I dumped Agent in favor of Dialog as Agent v2 seemed to be vaporware. It was in an Agent newsgroup that someone recommended The Bat to me. I commented on what a good news reader it was and what a pity there was an email client that was as good. Someone told me about The Bat v1.4 and I bought it that day... -- Tony. SuSE 9.2. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 17:49, Matt Thoene wrote: After about 10 minutes I realize that I cannot do all of the great things I was able to do with TB Me too, tried them all there is only one other I like and I'm using it for a short while now, at least till I get TB transfered over. -- Tony. SuSE 9.2. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 17:50, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Whats yahoo got to do with it? We're on TBBETA, not TBOT. :-) Got to blame someone 'aint I? Besides, your the ONLY one that noticed:) -- Tony. SuSE 9.2. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hello Alexander, Alexander Kunz wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hmm. and from what build we can get it? RC2? Oh no, please not, please not, please not, Whats the problem, if its already there and it already works? Does it work? Has it a bug? Who knows - never tested! Just because someone says Someone? Sorry but /everybody/ knows, that you'll never add a feature in a RC. If you do so, you should through away terms like beta, RC, Final ... otherwise you make yourself ridiculous. add a new feature right NOW when we have the chance... No, don't so. Don confuse users with that. You could add it in a beta, but now, we're in RC stage and there, no single feature should be added! I'd rather not wait another year for it! :-) Next beta cycle won't start in one year, I guess. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 5:46:15 PM, you wrote: Hello Chris Wilson everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 10:55 you (Chris Wilson) wrote: Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but surely a total PITA for many users? In the message pane? Where do you double click? I can click where I want, but no blank screen opens. Three pane window, folders, messages and the bottom full width one is where I normally read the contents of the message (pre view pane). Double clicking the message SHOULD open it in a full viewing window, but with certain view modes it opens the pane, but with the message No Message Loaded shown. With No View Mode set as the view mode for a folder it works fine, at least 2 other view modes and the message is not displayed with a double click. Basically one view mode that causes the problem is show: Created, From, Subject, Attachments and Parking all ticked and Sort by Created in Ascending Order, with Expand All Threads ticked too. I am sure it's View Mode specific. -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hola Neal, On Date : Tue, 3 May 2005 08:18:27 -0800 Neal Laugman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote this lines: Full ACK! N OT: what is ACK? (other than Martian-speak in Mars Attacks;) IT and Telecommunications abbreviations_v1.0 ACK ACKnowledgement - -- Saludos -- B R i a N S -- GNU Linux User #365154 Using TB! v3.5 Return RC1 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] El que no sabe honrar a los grandes no es digno de descender de ellos.-- José Martí OC, 9, 404 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCeRnJd7bqTo5YdzwRAgSjAKDtamvW0a4vfmO+lknBP/w6RMRscACfVYLM fDS+wxQW6WA7E90tM1WenVQ= =66MO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi All, The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] Viewer: Empty HTML caused show of previous mail [-] Other : Windows can't be shutdown if TB! is running [-] Other : in 'Browse Deleted' window 'Undelete' and 'Delete' actions were presented and used one shortcut [-] Other : new virtual folders aren't showed in folder tree [-] Other : newly created chat folder wasn't in menu [-] Other : If you change language, MainMenu doesn't change - you have to switch back and forth again to get the MainMenu translated. [-] Other : Password protected account issues [-] Other : old references threading [-] Other : Finder results behaviour [-] Other : View/Display/Advanced Filtering [-] IMAP : Remote Outbox draft deletion hangs [-] IMAP : the Outbox folder (local or remote) is not unbolded after the message is sent. If messages are automatically filtered from an outbox to an IMAP folder, [-] IMAP : cannot delete remote folders or make new folders (using Manage IMAP folders). [-] Minor : align icons in message list, customizer changes (reset, hidden items) [-] (#0004346) The BAT! can't parse some of mail headers [-] (#0004365) Two Access Violation errors appears when opening Search messages dialog [-] (#0004338) New intelligent threading picks bad matches [-] (#0004363) If TB is active, Windows can not be shot down. [-] (#0003932) 'Watch Replies In' menu doesn't update without restart / no chat folders in 3.5 RC1 [-] (#0004561) When moving messages from IMAP to POP account, target messages become broken and their number differs from source. [-] (#0004562) Messages from password protected account's IMAP Inbox are displayed in MailTicker [-] (#0004387) Password for entering protected account is requested twice when using Enter key [-] (#0004506) The hint text of buttons in recent betas mess up -- 9Val Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Hi All, The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available That's the way to go! 23 items fixed and no new toys added, great! Thank you for your work, I will do some testing the next few days. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Het was op woensdag 4 mei 2005 om 20:31 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available' : Hallo Charlene, The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available CF That's the way to go! 23 items fixed and no new toys added, great! CF Thank you for your work, I will do some testing the next few days. oh boy :p -- regards, Cees Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5 Return RC2 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Het was op woensdag 4 mei 2005 om 20:23 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available' : Hallo 9Val, great! I can now click on a mail in my imap-account, browse the folder, scroll through the mail, switch to pop3-account, do the same, and then go back to imap-account and STILL have mail to see! Hope it stays that way, but for now this looks a ok. -- regards, Cees Artist seeks Boss with vision impairment. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5 Return RC2 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : [-] Other : Windows can't be shutdown if TB! is running Still not fixed, the daily build yesterday worked as desired, RC2 doesn't. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
That's the way to go! 23 items fixed and no new toys added, great! Thank you for your work, I will do some testing the next few days. I sure am seeing a lot of things that people have been complaining about in this list. But TB still loads with a double imap folder hierarchy for me. -- Gleason Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Primarily using IMAP. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Het was op woensdag 4 mei 2005 om 20:48 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available' : Hallo Gleason, GP I sure am seeing a lot of things that people have been complaining GP about in this list. But TB still loads with a double imap folder GP hierarchy for me. nope, can't confirm that. Looks good here. -- regards, Cees Mille hominum species et rerum discolor ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5 Return RC2 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi Cees Het was op woensdag 4 mei 2005 om 20:48 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available' : Hallo Gleason, GP I sure am seeing a lot of things that people have been complaining GP about in this list. But TB still loads with a double imap folder GP hierarchy for me. nope, can't confirm that. Looks good here. IMAP seems to be very well at this point. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello 9Val, A reminder of what 9Val typed on: May 4, 2005 at 21:23:59 GMT +0300 9 [-] Other : Password protected account issues Issues from The List, best I can remember: Can no longer dispatch mail on server without password. Thus fixed. Can no longer create new folder in password protected list. Thus Fixed. Any collapsing of password protected accounts require password to be reentered. Fixed as far as I can tell. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
filtering
Het is woensdag 4 mei 2005 en 20:56:33 uur : Hallo tbbeta, filtering in IMAP account still doesn't work. Just created a filter, and there are at least 20 mails complying to the string, but they only get added to a queue and nothing is happening; they all remain in the inbox. -- groeten, Cees One of the advantages of living alone is that you don't have to wake up in the arms of a loved one. (Marion Smith) ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5 Return RC2 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Gleason, A reminder of what Gleason Pace typed on: May 4, 2005 at 11:48:34 GMT -0700 That's the way to go! 23 items fixed and no new toys added, great! Thank you for your work, I will do some testing the next few days. GP I sure am seeing a lot of things that people have been complaining GP about in this list. But TB still loads with a double imap folder GP hierarchy for me. For some reason I do not see the message you are replying to. Do you or anyone else know why this might be. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on: May 4, 2005 at 14:01:16 GMT -0500 SC A reminder of what Gleason Pace typed on: SC May 4, 2005 at 11:48:34 GMT -0700 That's the way to go! 23 items fixed and no new toys added, great! Thank you for your work, I will do some testing the next few days. GP I sure am seeing a lot of things that people have been complaining GP about in this list. But TB still loads with a double imap folder GP hierarchy for me. SC For some reason I do not see the message you are replying to. Do you SC or anyone else know why this might be. OK, I just received the original message. Seems odd, but not a TB! problem, I think. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : [-] Other : Windows can't be shutdown if TB! is running Still not fixed, the daily build yesterday worked as desired, RC2 doesn't. Just completed a successful reboot. TB! shut down properly with W2KSP4 -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello 9Val, The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Good work :) [-] Other : new virtual folders aren't showed in folder tree Confirmed. A new VF shows now just after creating it. [-] Other : old references threading God bless you :). It seems to work fine. BTW, References+Subject is now available as an option when creating/editing a view mode. However, I can't see that option when selecting View/View threads by. [-] Other : View/Display/Advanced Filtering Confirmed. It shows up now when selecting it. [-] (#0004365) Two Access Violation errors appears when opening Search messages dialog He! The AVs are gone, at least for the moment. I could not get rid of them since many betas ago. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Spelling error in RC2 [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available]
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, May 04, 2005, 1:23 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ ... [-] (#0004506) The hint text of buttons in recent betas mess up On doing a quick look at all the tooltips' on the buttons, I noticed a spelling error--sorry I didn't pick it up earlier, if it may have been there earlier: Soring Office/Filters on the toolbar of the main menu should be Sorting Office/Filters, I think. RC2 is performing well for me. I'll go on testing it and let you know if I find anything else, minor or otherwise. Really great job, 9Val and team! :) [-] Other : old references threading Nice. :kiss: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Neal, [-] Other : Windows can't be shutdown if TB! is running Still not fixed, the daily build yesterday worked as desired, RC2 doesn't. Just completed a successful reboot. TB! shut down properly with W2KSP4 Same here, Windows did shut down but I would not say TB did shut down _properly_. Why? It did shut down too fast and I didn't see it empty my Trash folders and, what is worse, it did not save the last changes I had done to the UI (i.e. folder tree column widths) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
imap filtering
Het is woensdag 4 mei 2005 en 21:14:31 uur : Hallo tbbeta, see attachment... it remains that way; doesn't do what it should. -- groeten, Cees Put Orville Bullitt's brain in a pigeon and it'd fly backwards. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5 Return RC2 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 attachment: imap again.png smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello Alto, I'll grant that for e.g. TheBat not being able to use standard LF/CR handling in the editor. It hurts me every day, but if this is just TheBat's way I can't say much against it. What do you actually mean by not being able to use standard LF/CR handling in the editor? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Reply to message sent 5/4/2005, @ 21:23:59 (1:23 PM Locally) ~~~ Here is a short list of changes: Can anyone verify whether or not the mess with the favorites drop down menu has been cleared up or not? Thanks, -- t'hy'la, ò¸ó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.0.1.33] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Nick, Can anyone verify whether or not the mess with the favorites drop down menu has been cleared up or not? still broken https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4463 -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello, Charlene! and no new toys added, great! New *toys* /added/ :) I see - _it_ really works :) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ivan The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Plugins: rss2mail 1.3; Protocols: multiple POP3 on LAN/Dial-up Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
accountwindow
Het is woensdag 4 mei 2005 en 21:28:32 uur : Hallo tbbeta, changes made to an account (properties) still creates a scrollbar in the accountwindow, when it should definitely not. -- groeten, Cees Official member of the ACR ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5 Return RC2 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
another AV
While reading and deleting messages. -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5 RC2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trustattachment: AV RC2.PNG pgpSHo1Asj4XO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi Stuart Cuddy, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : OK, I just received the original message. Seems odd, but not a TB! problem, I think. We on the German side aren't pampered at all by Yahoo and have got used to this. Or maybe some individuals are more patient than others *scnr* -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
Another one, again while reading. Like the first one, clicking the ok-button does not help. I have to use the Task Manager to shut down the Bat! -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5 RC2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trustattachment: AV2 RC2.PNG pgpw9Hc8F36Fb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hei 9Val, Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 9:23:59 PM, you [9] wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ This new RC is something really gorgeous. Great job 9Val, Stef, Max and the rest of the team! It's so smooth that I'm glad to let it replace my current .18 installation that've turned out to be the best 3.x build this far. Thanks, Tero -- Tero Ripattila Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi Neal Laugman - On Wed, 4 May 2005, at 10:56:56 [GMT -0800] (which was 11:56 AM where I live) you wrote: snip IMAP seems to be very well at this point. Not here. Still have the problem when changing views from one folder to another, I get a blank folder view that takes about 5 minutes to refresh. Unacceptable. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpjazCBwwdVL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, May 04, 2005, 2:40 PM, you wrote: OK, I just received the original message. Seems odd, but not a TB! problem, I think. We on the German side aren't pampered at all by Yahoo and have got used to this. Or maybe some individuals are more patient than others *scnr* Yahoo again! Tony Boom thought I didn't notice his slip in mentioning Yahoo, that serves TBOT, in connection with TBBETA. But I did, and this, too! scnr :gdr: TBBETA, which comes down, I notice, from something called thrall, has no connection with Yahoo. Factually speaking, for the last several days my messages on the TBBETA list have been arriving from Comcast.net out of the order of their creation/sending. For instance, 9Val's RC2 announcement was well behind 6 other messages commenting on it and on how RC2 was performing. I don't think this is TB!'s problem or the host's problem--I think it is just the way of the Web. I had felt so pampered, until just lately, that the TB! lists' messages arrived without messed-up chronology. But TBOT has given me a good grounding in living with this sort of thing. :grin: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Ivan, Ivan wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): and no new toys added, great! New *toys* /added/ :) I see - _it_ really works :) Thanks god I can't see this, do you really? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello 9Val, 9Val wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): [-] Other : If you change language, MainMenu doesn't change - you have to switch back and forth again to get the MainMenu translated. Not fixed - TheBat! crashes now, when you change language. Error: --- The Bat! --- A component named MailerFormCustMenu already exists. --- OK --- A few ms later TheBat! is closed. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
Hello Henk, Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 8:31:45 PM, you wrote: While reading and deleting messages. Not confirmed here Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone Vodafone +353879120530 Winamp is stopped smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 21:14, MAU wrote: Same here, Windows did shut down but I would not say TB did shut down _properly_. Why? It did shut down too fast and I didn't see it empty my Trash folders This is a long standing issue. A few years ago, TB! shut down properly under such circumstances, but that behaviour changed a long time ago. I don't remember when, but I am certain it was not during this year. I strongly believe, although I am not certain, that it was before 2004 as well. I've been on my way to report this several times, but never got around to it. Partially because this behaviour suites my personal needs, I don't want TB! to purge and compress if someone else shuts down my computer while TB! is running, but I suppose it is not intended behaviour so I suppose it should be fixed. and, what is worse, it did not save the last changes I had done to the UI (i.e. folder tree column widths) That makes a strong case for fixing this issue. I guess I'll have to live with my folders occasionally being compressed when not intended to, it's not important enough to accept the risk of loosing modified settings. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello, Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 9:04:39 PM, you wrote: M BTW, References+Subject is now available as an option when M creating/editing a view mode. However, I can't see that option when M selecting View/View threads by. Confirmed - please implement it in View/View threads by :-) -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 -- 500 MB na poczte i strony WWW juz za 122 zl rocznie http://link.interia.pl/f1879 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005 at 21:59 h Boris Anders wrote: [-] Other : If you change language, MainMenu doesn't change - you have to switch back and forth again to get the MainMenu translated. Not fixed - TheBat! crashes now, when you change language. Error: --- The Bat! --- A component named MailerFormCustMenu already exists. --- OK --- A few ms later TheBat! is closed. confirmed here. -- Best regards, Maik Bonus vir est, qui eo usque perduxit affectum animi, ut non iam peccare non velit, sed etiam non possit. [Pseudo-Seneca, Liber de moribus] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpEskLoC8DBT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 Application Errors when using Customise
Hello Peter, Peter Ouwehand wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Any confirmations? Confirmed. (well, the result is a bit different: TheBat! only closes here :-). -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
eToken problem
eToken was not works in 3.0.9.x, and in 3.5 RC versions too :( -- Best regards, Antonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Menu Items in Customise
Hello tbbeta, I see that menu items are now included in customise, however they are still not all there. Specifically the one I am waiting for View/Display/Unread Messages Only. :( -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 6:37:37 PM, you wrote: Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 5:46:15 PM, you wrote: Hello Chris Wilson everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 10:55 you (Chris Wilson) wrote: Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but surely a total PITA for many users? In the message pane? Where do you double click? I can click where I want, but no blank screen opens. Three pane window, folders, messages and the bottom full width one is where I normally read the contents of the message (pre view pane). Double clicking the message SHOULD open it in a full viewing window, but with certain view modes it opens the pane, but with the message No Message Loaded shown. With No View Mode set as the view mode for a folder it works fine, at least 2 other view modes and the message is not displayed with a double click. Basically one view mode that causes the problem is show: Created, From, Subject, Attachments and Parking all ticked and Sort by Created in Ascending Order, with Expand All Threads ticked too. I am sure it's View Mode specific. Still the same problem with RC2 -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 Application Errors when using Customise
Hello Peter, Peter Hampf wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Any confirmations? see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, it's the same thing. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi Boris Anders, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : [-] Other : If you change language, MainMenu doesn't change - you have to switch back and forth again to get the MainMenu translated. Not fixed - TheBat! crashes now, when you change language. Error: --- The Bat! --- A component named MailerFormCustMenu already exists. --- OK --- A few ms later TheBat! is closed. Confirmed here. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
On Wed, 4 May 2005, at 21:59:38 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:59 where I live) Boris Anders wrote: [-] Other : If you change language, MainMenu doesn't change - you have to switch back and forth again to get the MainMenu translated. Not fixed - TheBat! crashes now, when you change language. Error: --- The Bat! --- A component named MailerFormCustMenu already exists. --- OK --- A few ms later TheBat! is closed. Confirmed -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5 RC2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpbGXM0Gax4M.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi MAU [-] Other : Windows can't be shutdown if TB! is running Still not fixed, the daily build yesterday worked as desired, RC2 doesn't. Just completed a successful reboot. TB! shut down properly with W2KSP4 Same here, Windows did shut down but I would not say TB did shut down _properly_. Why? It did shut down too fast and I didn't see it empty my Trash folders and, what is worse, it did not save the last changes I had done to the UI (i.e. folder tree column widths) OK - I did empty the trash on exit or have andy user mods. Will check this later. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
On Wed, 4 May 2005, at 20:42:17 [GMT +0100] (which was 21:42 where I live) Sean Rima wrote: While reading and deleting messages. Not confirmed here Another two, if this goes on I have to go back to... -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5 RC2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trustattachment: AV4 RC2.PNGattachment: AV3 RC2.PNG pgp10kSS57aH8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
Hello Henk, Henk Bruijn wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): While reading and deleting messages. Can't confirm. Where do you read and how do you delete? Is it 100% reproducible for you? -- broken? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi Mary Bull, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : I don't think this is TB!'s problem or the host's problem--I think it is just the way of the Web. Okay, so the web not always shines it's light constantly on all of us. If any of the yahooies is around: my apologies to them. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV when customizing the toolbar
I get an AV when I try and customize the standard toolbar by adding new items to it. The program crashes and closes down. -- Best Regards, Costas Papadopoulos Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
On Wed, 4 May 2005, at 22:26:15 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:26 where I live) Boris Anders wrote: While reading and deleting messages. Can't confirm. Where do you read and how do you delete? Is it 100% reproducible for you? I am reading the normal message auto-view. Deleting messages with either the delete button on the standard toolbar (mouse) or the delete button on my keyboard. -- broken? Checked that, has to be ok now.. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5 RC2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpJE6cdLs7pi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 Application Errors when using Customise
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, May 04, 2005, 3:07 PM, you wrote One that can't wait ... Indeed, it cannot wait. I just went through your steps and got the same result, with one exception: TB! closed itself without my invoking the Task Manager (sorry, has encountered a problem and has to close, ... send report--the typical Windows error message). Test case: 1. Open Customise 2. Select Standard (toolbar) 3. Add Misc / Edit Colour Groups 4. X the window 5. Answer Yes to 'apply changes' 6. Results: The exception unknown software exception (0x0eedfade) occurred in the application at location 0x7c59bbf3. The instruction at 0x77f88216 referenced memory at 0x0010. The memory could not be written. The instruction at 0x00a89604 referenced memory at 0x0004. The memory could not be read. The instruction at 0x00b46a81 referenced memory at 0x0030. The memory could not be read. etc etc etc Used Task Manager to kill TB! Any confirmations? Confirmed. Absolutely confirmed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
Hello Henk, Henk Bruijn wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am reading the normal message auto-view. Deleting messages with either the delete button on the standard toolbar (mouse) or the delete button on my keyboard. Can't confirm anyway :-(. Checked that, has to be ok now.. It still broken here ... -- Henk M. de Bruijn -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV when customizing the toolbar
Hello Costas, I get an AV when I try and customize the standard toolbar by adding new items to it. The program crashes and closes down. confirmed -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: delayed receipt of posts [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available]
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, May 04, 2005, 3:26 PM, you wrote: I don't think this is TB!'s problem or the host's problem--I think it is just the way of the Web. Okay, so the web not always shines it's light constantly on all of us. If any of the yahooies is around: my apologies to them. The light of your star always shines on me! :star: Even if the source-transferrers it has to get through may delay it. Let's not apologize to bulky old yahoo.com with its bulk transfers (found that by looking at Specials/Source on a Yahoo TBOT post). Let's yell at it all we want to. As, :neener: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV when customizing the toolbar
Hello Costas! On Wednesday, May 04, 2005, 3:30 PM, you wrote: I get an AV when I try and customize the standard toolbar by adding new items to it. The program crashes and closes down. Confirmed. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mid:mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 Application Errors when using Customise
Hi Peter Ouwehand, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : 6. Results: The exception unknown software exception (0x0eedfade) occurred in the application at location 0x7c59bbf3. The instruction at 0x77f88216 referenced memory at 0x0010. The memory could not be written. The instruction at 0x00a89604 referenced memory at 0x0004. The memory could not be read. The instruction at 0x00b46a81 referenced memory at 0x0030. The memory could not be read. etc etc etc Used Task Manager to kill TB! Any confirmations? Fully confirmed, with two divergences: the first error message had a different number (flush it anyway) and the last point: I saw TB being closed by windows after closing all boxes. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello, Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 8:23:59 PM, you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Every time I shut down TB! there is BayesIt error: 04.05.2005 23:20:54 TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 Every time... Not happens in previeus versions... -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 -- 500 MB na poczte i strony WWW juz za 122 zl rocznie http://link.interia.pl/f1879 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RC2 - Search AVs Gone, Print from Continue
Hello Batpeople, The two cascading AVs when entering search have disappeared with RC2. However, I am still getting an AV if I tray to print a message found via search. In RC1 and RC2 the printing AV seems to be a consistent for the bat.exe and read address. The program hangs with the AV. The work around has been to exit the Bat, go back to the selected message and print directly from the message pane. -- Best regards, Richard Richard Newman --- I'm using 3.5 Return RC2 under Windows XP 5 1 2600 on a Pentium 4, @ 1.9GHz Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
BayesIt error all the time in 3.5 RC/2
Hello, Every time I shut down TB! there is BayesIt error: 04.05.2005 23:20:54 TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 Every time... Not happens in previeus versions... -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 -- Startuj z INTERIA.PL! http://link.interia.pl/f186c Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Marcus, This is a long standing issue. A few years ago, TB! shut down properly under such circumstances, but that behaviour changed a long time ago. I didn't know. My normal routine before shutting down Windows is to shut down applications, perform a daily backup of important data and then exit Windows. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 Application Errors when using Customise
Hi Peter Ouwehand, Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Yes, its main window was closed. But here (using W2K) the application errors kept on coming and TB was still listed in Task Manager. I guess your XP killed TB all by itself. Sometimes I think, MS was quite busy in some houseworks. It is sometimes more stable here than W2k -despite all the games my son installed on another bootable partition of my HDD, that OS is a good thing. This evening I get two sober-attached mails an hour and this is sobering me up again :-\ Well, it is as it is. All that's left here from aborted task TB is an icon in systray which will disappear when my mouse hovers over it. No exe-rest in TM here. -- Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hi Miguel, you said: My normal routine before shutting down Windows is to shut down applications, perform a daily backup of important data and then exit Windows. That is the way it should be, you are right doing so. I guess you know where your shirts are stored and your socks, too. You are a rare exception, I suppose. At least according to my experiences. It nevertheless can happen in a regular household that you haven' got the time to be as neat as usual on exiting your PC. You maybe have to react on things around you before they get probably worse or it is too late. That's family life! So I would greatly welcome TB being capable mastering such inadequate handlings which occur from time to time. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello 9Val, On Wednesday, May 4, 2005 you wrote: Not fixed: UI: ESC key doesn't remove filter in message list in VF. You have to select View/Display/All messages. UI: ctrl-clicking a message in virtual folder no longer acts as follow. The option in context menu works though. -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/ send_key in subject. /_ :Krzysztof_Trybowski: Using The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC2 - Search AVs Gone, Print from Continue
Hello Richard, Richard Newman wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): However, I am still getting an AV if I tray to print a message found via search. Can't confirm :-(. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
Hello Krzysztof, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Not fixed: UI: ESC key doesn't remove filter in message list in VF. You have to select View/Display/All messages. UI: ctrl-clicking a message in virtual folder no longer acts as follow. The option in context menu works though. Both confirmed. (Maybe one question: Ctrl + Clicking or Ctrl double Clicking?). -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hi MAU, M What do you actually mean by not being able to use standard LF/CR M handling in the editor? With Auto Format On you can't make a paragraph (by pressing Return) without inserting an empty line after it. If you try it the next line is drawn back to append the previous one - as it should not be. If you disable Auto Format then no formating is done to one paragraph in its own. Yo can have the first line only half full with no Return behind it, but now the next line is not drawn back - as it very well should be. I've inquired about this issue years ago but have not even gotten so much as a reply. (Same as with the other bug reports I submitted over the years, BTW.) -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpCs3z21VS0D.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plaint text enhancement (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hello Boris Anders everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 19:23 you (Boris Anders) wrote: Hmm. and from what build we can get it? RC2? Oh no, please not, please not, please not, Whats the problem, if its already there and it already works? Does it work? Has it a bug? Who knows - never tested! Thats one hell of an arguable function, anyway. For example is something *like this* (with a whitespace between words) meant to be shown as bold, or only if it is typed *like* *this* - and what with *this*? (a question mark or whatever directly following) ... either way it'll be done, it won't please everyone. Hm. Someone? Sorry but /everybody/ knows, that you'll never add a feature in a RC. If you do so, you should through away terms like beta, RC, Final ... Uhmm... regarding the past releases of the initial v3 and following versions... I'll better leave that uncommented. :-} add a new feature right NOW when we have the chance... No, don't so. Don confuse users with that. You could add it in a beta, but now, we're in RC stage and there, no single feature should be added! As I already wrote, I am of a different opinion, so we're even. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Give me, Mother, luck at my birth, then throw me if you will on the rubbish heap. (Bulgarian Proverb) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: 3.5 RC 1 -TB terminates connection
Hi Tero, On 4/5/2005 6:51 PM +0300, you wrote: Nope, I can confirm this with no problem. Actually I told about my similar experiences some time ago on the list too. v3.0.9.18 worked smoothly. However, it's an unacceptable offering with the limitations. I'm not prepared to work with that build indefinitely. Mulberry is better than it. The RC1 works in a way, but it's lurchy. Messages and folders suddenly will not load on the first attempt. Autofiltering again works sporadically. So despite the fixing of a few of the limitations that existed in v3.0.9.18, I don't feel inclined to use it. I just have to continue waiting. My problem is that I've experienced better and can't come back to functionality and smoothness that is mediocre at best. I'm really unhappy for those who find it completely unusable. My experience isn't that bad by a country mile, but there's a lot of room for improvement. I can now patiently wait since I'm quite comfortable with using an alternative client for now. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 23:30 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: With Auto Format On you can't make a paragraph (by pressing Return) without inserting an empty line after it. If you try it the next line is drawn back to append the previous one - as it should not be. But a paragraph is always separated with an extra line. We're not writing books, we're writing emails. :-) And turning auto-format on/off is only a simple keyboard shortcut away. Now, if I could only remember it... :-) If you disable Auto Format then no formating is done to one paragraph in its own. Yo can have the first line only half full with no Return behind it, but now the next line is not drawn back - as it very well should be. Thats why I'm not using auto-format but press ALT-L (if need by, like when I insert something) when I'm completely done with typing a paragraph. That works no matter where the cursor is placed in the paragraph. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like bananas. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
Dear Henk, @4-May-2005, 21:44 +0200 (04-May 20:44 UK time) Henk M. de Bruijn [HMD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Henk: HMD Another one, again while reading. Like the first one, clicking the HMD ok-button does not help. I have to use the Task Manager to shut down HMD the Bat! Confirmed :-(. Although, leaning on the Esc key gets me back to a usable point in TB. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpg6Cb1LUwDH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another AV
Dear Henk, @4-May-2005, 22:40 +0200 (04-May 21:40 UK time) Henk M. de Bruijn [HMD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While reading and deleting messages. Can't confirm. Where do you read and how do you delete? Is it 100% reproducible for you? HMD I am reading the normal message auto-view. Deleting messages with HMD either the delete button on the standard toolbar (mouse) or the delete HMD button on my keyboard. I'm getting them idly reading through the mail in the Ticker VF. I haven't noticed this time round, but in the past it has been as new mail has arrived and been threaded into the mail I am reading. I seldom (if ever) delete mail. (me? retentive? I guess sigh). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp7A8zFqqNSt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 RC 1 -TB terminates connection
Hi Allie Martin - On Wed, 04 May 2005, at 18:17:43 [GMT -0500] (which was 4:17 PM where I live) you wrote: The RC1 works in a way, but it's lurchy. Messages and folders suddenly will not load on the first attempt. Autofiltering again works sporadically. So despite the fixing of a few of the limitations that existed in v3.0.9.18, I don't feel inclined to use it. I can confirm the same problems that Allie mentions w/RC2. A lot of folders just won't load or take an inordinate amount of time 5 minutes. I didn't have this problem w/3.0.9.18 either. Right now TB is unusable for me as well. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpVDrhn3dM0C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
buglet rc2
Battyfolk, No download new msg or send cued msg icons in any skin. Reverted to RC1 these reappeared. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.5 Return RC1, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
