Alpha issue: folder sorter doen't come up anymore
Listmembers: Has the folder sorter temporarily been removed? I've noticed that when clicking with the secondary mousebutton on the folder headings, you now get a dialog where you can select the columns that you want displayed here, just like the message list. However, when clicking with the primary mousebutton, one used to get a dialog to sort the folders, and this no longer happens. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA); ; AJS v0.0; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Remember: No matter where you go; there you are. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alpha issue: folder sorter doen't come up anymore
Hello Maurice, However, when clicking with the primary mousebutton, one used to get a dialog to sort the folders, and this no longer happens. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address History enhancement
Hello Robert, I'm not sure what you mean. What he probably means is: - Create a Virtual folder and associate it with an address book entry. All mails to/from all the email addresses in the address book entry hould be shown in the VF - If you update the email addresses in the address book entry(because a person gets a new address for instance) the virtual folder should automatically show the messages to/from the new address as well. Btw: I how to create a VF and configure this manually, but that means that a new address has to be added a couple of times: - in the address book - in a VF filter condition for Sender - in a VF filter condition for Receiver OK, got it now. I guess you are right. By the way: I would love to see a rule for VFs so you can filter on Sender or Receiver in one condition. Most of my VFs are used to show mail from/to people and I have to duplicate the email address in each VF Filter. I tried to work around this by specifying that the header contains an email address, but that makes the VFs VERY slow. I agree. TB only allows the construct: If (A contains X) .OR. (B contains X) but there is no way (I think)to do: If ((A .OR. B) contains X) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address History enhancement
Hello Jens, I'm not sure what you mean. In Adressbook the Person John Doe can have several E-Mail Adresses, each on one Line in the Adressbook. In History by Adressbook you see every E-Mail from John Doe, regardless from or to which E-Mail it was sent. Yes, I can see the difference now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from my 3.99.29. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: Thread Move.png Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forward looses special characters
Hello Feli, On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 21:30:07 +0100 GMT (05/01/2008, 03:30 +0700 GMT), Feli Wilcke wrote: FW If you try to forward Hendrik's mail, does it loose the accented FW characters? Not here. -- Cheers, Thomas. You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes; why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance ? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forward looses special characters
Hi Feli, on Friday, January 4, 2008 at 21:30 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Systemstandard is the charset you use when you send mails. I was speaking of the charset of the mail you want to forward. If you select this mail and press F9, you will see something like ,- [ ] | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 `- There is shown: multipart/mixed; Some Umlaute to test: Ä ä Ö ö Ü ü Some french characters: é è ê ç à ù î RB I don't mean a normal message! What do you mean by normal message? this is still my question If you try to forward Hendrik's mail, does it loose the accented characters? There I see them! -- Best regards an a nice weekend Roland I use The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Pro under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! Schnellvorlage PGP konnte nicht gefunden werden Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. Another thing that would be nice is to allow TB to fallback to the actual interface. I really don't like the new interface that much. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Show Girl : she's more show than girl.attachment: move_thread.PNG Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for selected message(s), not for threads. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo On Saturday, January 5, 2008 you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. It's been shiftctrlV to move a thread since I first started using the Bat around version 3.3x -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hi all, when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't recognize the first, but the last one. -- No.1 -- No.2 -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcuts missing in Menus
COSMETIC: The keyboard shortcuts were added to the message context menu but some are still missing from the Message and Specials menus -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. It works. Now it doesn't. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias We humans have a streak of barbarism in us... Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Inquiry
Hi BatGroup, Is there a calendar feature planned for 4.0 version or any time soon? I don't see this addressed anywhere(that I could find) and was curious if this is something on the To Do list for later. -- Best regards, Kyle 1/5/2008 8:46 AM TheBat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. RG It's been shiftctrlV to move a thread since I first started using RG the Bat around version 3.3x Well, that's not what's in the context menu and CTRL+V did exactly the same thing as shft+ctrl+v since threads appeared (probably that's why I didn't knew about that other shortcut). And I using TB since version 2.x. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You think I care which way you face? O'Brien Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, On 2008-01-05 you wrote: Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. Yes, but two lines above you can see the thread entry in the menu. When you expand it, you'll see that Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut to move threads (unless you have redefined it). Look at the screenshot Miguel has posted. -- Regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hello Peter, On 2008-01-05 you wrote: Hi all, when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't recognize the first, but the last one. Confirmed under 4.0.0.7 -- Regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, at 14:44:23 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:44 where I live) Peter Meyns wrote: Hi Peter, when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't recognize the first, but the last one. -- No.1 -- No.2 Confirmed ;-) -- Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgpMBbJOEYhUZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. I just did (see my signature below) and if I select the first message of a thread and hit Ctrl+V it just moves one message, the first one of the thread, which is the one I had selected. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Secure wish
Hi Tbbeta, Hi RitLabs, for my friends, relatives, family and some other poeple with whom I exchange confidential mail, PGP and S/MIME are either too difficult or they don't trust themselves to take action for it. One may think about it als one likes, but the fact is there and I can't convince them. Nevertheless, I wish such emails encrypted in some way. Is it possible to make an HTML template, using javascript, that encrypts a mail at saving it, and when it is arrived and by the reciever is called, first is asked for a password and then gives the content of the mail free? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
sábado, 5 ene 2008 at 10:58, it seems you wrote: Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
Hi, GG Is it possible to make an HTML template, using javascript, GG that encrypts a mail at saving it, and when it is arrived GG and by the reciever is called, first is asked for a password GG and then gives the content of the mail free? What would that give you? Isn't that exactly how the built-in encryption support works now? -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpAV4MWIuGS9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
Hi, GG Is it possible to make an HTML template, using javascript, GG that encrypts a mail at saving it, and when it is arrived GG and by the reciever is called, first is asked for a password GG and then gives the content of the mail free? What would that give you? Isn't that exactly how the built-in encryption support works now? Don't think so. For the built-in encryption, the reciever site needs to do a lot more than just gives a password. As I said, S/MIME and PGP are too difficult. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forward looses special characters
Hello Roland, On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:00:42 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote: RB There is shown: multipart/mixed; so no charset ist defined and I reckon TB! takes this for 7-bit ASCII If you try to forward Hendrik's mail, does it loose the accented characters? RB There I see them! then it is the fault of the sending mail program. It didn't declare the content properly. -- Regards, Feli ^^°-°^^:de-bb: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hello Peter, On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:44:23 +0100GMT Peter Meyns wrote: PM when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't PM recognize the first, but the last one. I think it was always like that. -- Regards, Feli ^^°-°^^:de-bb: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hello Feli On Saturday, January 5, 2008 you wrote: Hello Peter, On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:44:23 +0100GMT Peter Meyns wrote: PM when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't PM recognize the first, but the last one. I think it was always like that. I THINK I remember being told that the pupose of the delimiter was so it would stop at the first one. -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hello Thomas On Saturday, January 5, 2008 you wrote: I THINK I remember being told that the pupose of the delimiter was so it would stop at the first one. Feli was right: | [-] Cutting the quoted text at the last signature to avoid confusion | with highlighted signature in RTV I stand corrected:stfu::-D Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hallo Peter, On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:44:23 +0100GMT (5-1-2008, 14:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PM when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't PM recognize the first, but the last one. That has so for ages on request of those that follow mailinglists as digest. When all messages are placed in one message body, the occurence of multiple cut signs could render most messages hard to read when using the RTV. Our current list server supports MIME digests, but the previous list server didn't (yes, it's so long ago) and way back things were designed as you find them now. You could add it to the wish list (and have my support), but currently that is WAD. -- Groetjes, Roelof I prefer to call it: The Prime Suggestion - Kirk http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMfVxs81DFL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hi Rick, on Sat, 5 Jan 2008, at 10:24:09 [GMT -0500] Rick wrote: I THINK I remember being told that the pupose of the delimiter was so it would stop at the first one. Feli was right: in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan wrote: [1] | [-] Cutting the quoted text at the last signature to avoid confusion | with highlighted signature in RTV [1] this mail isn't in the archive, but my answer is still there: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg21374.html -- regards Thomas Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hi Feli, on Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:17:41 +0100GMT (05.01.2008, 16:17 +0100GMT here), you wrote: FW On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:44:23 +0100GMT Peter Meyns wrote: PM when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't PM recognize the first, but the last one. FW I think it was always like that. You are probably right. My confusion came from a change that has obviously occurred on the German TB! off-topic list. I always *thought* they had set a sig-delimiter before their ads, but scrutinizing the older messages, I see that it is three dashes. It was always blurred by the way I have TB! show signatures: sort of greyed-out... So the /last/ sig-delimiter was the one provided by the poster, and everything looked fine. A short time ago they must have changed these three dashes to a correct sig-delimiter (or was that you?), and I only now realized it. I stand corrected too. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alpha issue: folder sorter doen't come up anymore
On Saturday, January 5, 2008 at 10:56 Mau [M] wrote: However, when clicking with the primary mousebutton, one used to get a dialog to sort the folders, and this no longer happens. M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 Thanx, comment added. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA); ; AJS v19.59428; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hi Roelof, on Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:40:32 +0100GMT (05.01.2008, 16:40 +0100GMT here), you wrote: PM when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't PM recognize the first, but the last one. RO That has so for ages on request of those that follow mailinglists as RO digest. When all messages are placed in one message body, the RO occurence of multiple cut signs could render most messages hard to RO read when using the RTV. RO Our current list server supports MIME digests, but the previous list RO server didn't (yes, it's so long ago) and way back things were RO designed as you find them now. RO You could add it to the wish list (and have my support), but currently RO that is WAD. I see and understand. I thought something had changed, but this confusion arose from another source than The Bat! as I see it now. See my reply to Feli (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
On Saturday, January 5, 2008, 8:11:09 AM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't recognize the first, but the last one. -- No.1 -- No.2 Confirmed ;-) -- Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System your last one doesn't work these days either. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello NetVicious, Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. Yes, I know. Have you seen the rest of the thread? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane not re-drawing
Hi Neal, on Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:42:29 -0900GMT (05.01.2008, 05:42 +0100GMT here), you wrote: NL When the message pane is empty (no new messages tab for example) the NL preview pane draws whatever is on top of it. In Delphi I would say the NL pane is not invalidating properly. Here's the screenshot: NL http://nealtech.us/files/images/tb-screenshot2.png NL You can see MicroEd (this message) and Process Explorer in the preview NL pane. Confirmed here. The preview pane shows whatever was there before until I select a message. NL * NL Different problem I will post on as soon as I know more: Antispam NL Sniper is going bazerk on shutdown when there are current tasks and NL you instruct to shutdown gracefully (TB does not shut down) and NL Process Explorer shows ASSniper generating a multitude of threads. NL More on this one later. No problems with ASSniper 2.6.1.2 free version here. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 ALPHA
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin, am Freitag, 4. Januar 2008 um 21:39 schrieben Sie: tba4007.rar Up and running. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized
Hello Peter, On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:22:49 +0100GMT Peter Meyns wrote: PM My confusion came from a change that has PM obviously occurred on the German TB! off-topic list. ... PM A short time ago they must have changed these three dashes to a PM correct sig-delimiter (or was that you?), and I only now realized it. It wasn't me but the people at ml4free. Now you can read better my taglines ;-) -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Secure wish
Guten Morgen, GG Don't think so. For the built-in encryption, the reciever site GG needs to do a lot more than just gives a password. GG As I said, S/MIME and PGP are too difficult. Are you talking about creating the keys/certificates? Why don't you create them for whomever will be using the other end, save them to USB-stick and hand them the stick with the instruction click there, rest will be auto? If your standard run-of-the-mill computer user can be trusted to execute any new worm without being told, I'm sure you can trust him to execute a premade script _after_ being told to do so - just this once! ;-) -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpnv08TgRtr2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 ALPHA
Maxim Masiutin wrote on 05/01/2008 at 07:39:16 +1100 subject The Bat! 4.0.0.7 ALPHA : http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4007.rar Any confirmation for this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6631 %SIGNCOMPLETE does not work if new mail is called by MAPI -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.7.0 on Windows 2000 ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : US Hello Goncalo, US On 2008-01-05 you wrote: Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. US Yes, but two lines above you can see the thread entry in the menu. US When you expand it, you'll see that Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut to US move threads (unless you have redefined it). Look at the screenshot US Miguel has posted. I didn't -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If it wasn't so cool out today, it would be warmer. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : N sábado, 5 ene 2008 at 10:58, it seems you wrote: Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? N Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog N correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. Maybe but why have to shortcuts to do the same thing? I prefer the one with fewer keys. Call me lazy... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Real Trekkers work out at the He's Dead Gym. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello all, Saturday, January 5, 2008, Goncalo Farias wrote: Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. no, Ctrl+V moves selected message or messages only, not messages in thread! This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? there is entry Thread and functions for working with thread are there. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. M I just did (see my signature below) and if I select the first message of M a thread and hit Ctrl+V it just moves one message, the first one of the M thread, which is the one I had selected. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Another image to clarify. Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Abort, Retry, Ignore, plan a Funeral Service?attachment: move_thread.PNG Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
On Saturday, January 5, 2008, 15:21:59, Gunivortus Goos wrote: Is it possible to make an HTML template, using javascript, that encrypts a mail at saving it, and when it is arrived and by the reciever is called, first is asked for a password and then gives the content of the mail free? This is impossible to do. What you want would require JavaScript support, but even e-mail programs that use HTML engines with JavaScript support do not execute scripts in e-mail messages anymore, since they're a security risk. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] The less work an organization produces, the more frequently it reorganizes. -- Organizational Law Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
account tree not behaving
When I open TB!, the top fourth or third of the account tree is out of view, and I have a scroll bar on the right. As soon as I pull the bar down, it disappears, as the tree is not long as the window. It is always the same folder pictured on top, regardless what folder was active at the time of exit. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Another image to clarify. Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. I think I know where our mutual misunderstanding comes from. You are 'threading by Subject', aren't you? If so, I have always maintained that it should be called 'grouping by Subject' to avoid misunderstanding and because only threading by Reference display _proper_threads_. Actually, when threading by subject, as I assume you are doing, if you select the first message of the thread (which is actually only the name (subject) of the group) and you hit the Delete key you get the following warning: --- Delete messages --- The selection contains groups. Do you really want to delete them? --- Sí No --- which, as you can see, refers to *groups*. Now, if you are threading by Subject (like I am assuming you do), then you are darn right and Ctrl+V does move the entire group in 3.99.29 and it doesn't in 4.0.0.7. But that is only if you are threading by subject and you select the 'name of the group'. If you select any actual message in the group, only that message is moved. When threading by Reference, like I do in 99.99% of my folders, then Ctrl+V does only move the first message of the thread (if that's the one selected), and this is so in 3.99.29 and 4.0.0.x. Now, no matter if threading by Subject or by Reference, if you select ANY message in a thread (or group) and you use Shift+Ctrl+V, the entire thread (or group) will be moved. And this was so in 3.99.29 and still is so in 4.0.0.7. With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 (and previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the buggy one, and that it is working correctly now. It's just my opinion. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account tree not behaving
Hello Dwight, When I open TB!, the top fourth or third of the account tree is out of view, and I have a scroll bar on the right. As soon as I pull the bar down, it disappears, as the tree is not long as the window. It is always the same folder pictured on top, regardless what folder was active at the time of exit. Is working fine with Windows XP. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
Hi Jernej Simončič, This is impossible to do. What you want would require JavaScript support, but even e-mail programs that use HTML engines with JavaScript support do not execute scripts in e-mail messages anymore, since they're a security risk. You are right, I tried it out and it failed. Hmmm still searching a way to send/recieve mail secure (scrambled) without using PGP or S/MIME. A while ago I read something about a small tool which installs itself between the emailclient and the mailserver (as several security tools do), asking to scramble a message. The reciever needs to install that tool too and askes a password to descramble it. The sender only has to give the reciever once a password. But obviously, that little tool disappeared, can't find it anymore. It was in alpha stadium, the programmer planned a beta in which one could put emailaddresses from contacts and for each a password. That beta never came. Pity I can't code such things myself. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
Hi Alto, GG As I said, S/MIME and PGP are too difficult. Are you talking about creating the keys/certificates? Nope. On the contrary, I'm searching for a secure way without. See my answer to Jernej. Why don't you create them for whomever will be using the other end, save them to USB-stick and hand them the stick with the instruction click there, rest will be auto? Hehehe. I would need much too many sticks. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure wish
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, at 08:01:41 [GMT +0100] (which was 8:01 where I live) Gunivortus Goos wrote: Hi Jernej Simončič, This is impossible to do. What you want would require JavaScript support, but even e-mail programs that use HTML engines with JavaScript support do not execute scripts in e-mail messages anymore, since they're a security risk. You are right, I tried it out and it failed. Hmmm still searching a way to send/recieve mail secure (scrambled) without using PGP or S/MIME. A while ago I read something about a small tool which installs itself between the emailclient and the mailserver (as several security tools do), asking to scramble a message. The reciever needs to install that tool too and askes a password to descramble it. The sender only has to give the reciever once a password. But obviously, that little tool disappeared, can't find it anymore. It was in alpha stadium, the programmer planned a beta in which one could put emailaddresses from contacts and for each a password. That beta never came. Pity I can't code such things myself. Most people know how to use a MUA and how to send attachments. An alternative that comes to my mind is to use for instance Word as a textwriter and secure the document with a password and then send this as an attachment. HTH -- Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgpaAxmRbAQVl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
