Re: 10.5
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 4:36:10 PM, you wrote: > We have released The Bat! v10.5. On this work laptop (I am currently travelling), I received the pop-up stating that a new release version is available. So I clicked on "update", it downloaded and apparently installed the new version. As you can see in my sig, it still shows the old version. Seeing the bugs being reported here, I am quite happy that I am still with the old version, but it doesn't seem normal. On another note, shouldn't the new version have been beta tested before the release? Just asking. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.4.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.16 Bug in editor: Marked text in HTML mode has very low contrast
Hello Ritlabs, When working at the HTML editor, kindly also fix the rather annoying font change problem: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 When composing HTMLs email, I always have to highlight some paragraphs and change to font back, otherwise I'd have two different fonts in my email. Can't have that in business emails. Thanks. Saturday, September 23, 2023, 3:22:54 PM, you wrote: > Hello Alexander, > On Tue, 19 Sep 2023, at 14:54:45 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:54 where I > live) Alexander wrote: > >> Versions with the auto-update feature: >> 32-bit >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-16.msi > BUG in Editor: Marked text in Editor mode Pure-HTML not visible > 1. Set Theme to Standard > 2. Set Editor to Pure-HTML > 3. Hit Ctrl+A > 4. See that marked text is not readable > In mode Plain Text or Rich Text the marked text is really readable (less > contrast). > See image: > > The Bat! 10.4.0.16 32bit / Win 11 22H2 / Desktop Light mode > > Any confirms? > -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.4.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repeated Access Violation errors in HTML editor
Hello Julian, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 1:11:22 PM, you wrote: > I have upgraded to the Halloween Edition. I am now getting repeated Access > Violation errors when I am editing emails (HTML Editor) > "Access violation at address 017EC5D8 in module 'TheBat.exe'. Read of > address ." > It is the same message each time. The warnings appear to come in pairs - one > immediately after the next, then a pause then some more. The errors start > appearing after some minutes of editing the message and the number of errors > seems to be related to the length of the email so perhaps spell-checker > related? I can confirm the AV (but I will have to check the address next time it happens). I don't use the spell checker, so that is not the culprit. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello TBBETA, I am not sure whether this is a beta problem, as my university email worked without problems until 28 September. Now, every time I want to download my email by POP, I get the following error message: !25/10/2022, 16:31:52: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR Logon failure: unknown user name or bad password. Of course that is incorrect, as the username and password work when I log in on by webmail . These are the settings in TB! that worked until recently: Send mail:smtp.office365.com RFC2554 587 Receive mail: outlook.office365.com regular 995 After an hours worth of time at IT support, and them talking to the IT outsource, they told me that MS does not support POP or IMAP any more "for security reasons", and everybody has to use Outlook as their email program only. Of course, I told them that I won;t do such as thing and the reasonable reaction by our IT department should be to change email provider from MS to somebody else. Of course, they won;t do anything. But I still need to access my email by TheBat!. They found on the Ritlabs website that TB! supports MAPI. Is that really true? If that, can someone send me some guideline? When I go to Account / New, I am only offered POP and IMAP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hello George, Saturday, October 15, 2022, 11:52:00 PM, you wrote: [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) >>> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? >>> How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? >>> Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment >>> Security? >> Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external >> programmes that do that. > Is this feature can't be disabled? If can be - I don't see any problem to > paranoic maniac like you and me. I agree with this. Anybody who does not want to use the feature can disable it. I might give it a try with my antivirus enabled once I am back home at my "play" computer. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 update failed
Hello Ethan, Wednesday, October 12, 2022, 3:55:52 PM, you wrote: > Wednesday, October 12, 2022 > Thanks for your email. I've put my answers below. > Wednesday, October 12, 2022, 4:18:15 AM, you wrote: >> Most probably, you have a connection error - do they happen often in other >> apps? I guess we were too optimistic about those simple tasks, so more work >> error reporting needs to be done. >> Please try to redownload the update. > I don't use the update feature in The Bat. > > Instead, I have found if you go to the Rit Labs website and download the > update, that works. Thanks for the practical workaround. However, this is the beta list in which we report bugs so that they can be fixed. > I have noticed that Windows flags the msi file as a risk. I have to force > acceptance of the file in order to run it for the update. Do you mean Windows Defender? I use avast! instead. Maybe avast! blocked it... -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 update failed
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, October 12, 2022, 3:18:15 PM, you wrote: >> Note: I did not see any announcement on this list about 10.2.1. > 10.2.1 is a hotfix update to 10.2 > Most probably, you have a connection error - do they happen often in other > apps? I guess we were too optimistic about those simple tasks, so more work > error reporting needs to be done. > Please try to redownload the update. No this does not happen often, but hey, this is the internet. In addition, I am using Windows. I expect the pop-up to show again tomorrow morning and will try again. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font corruption in Maintenance Centre
Hello Chris, Saturday, July 2, 2022, 7:11:57 AM, you wrote: CW See link to screen shot. Plus, overnight a Processing Folders box appaears of its own accord, cannot be stopped nor closed and needs task Manager to kill it, at which point TB! restarts itself, despite it having been left running CW http://www.chriswilson.tv/maintenance-font.jpg CW Thanks, if it matters I updated from a legacy version the other day, I was running v5.8.10 >>> OK, some more info on Processing Folders starting up on its own, that may >>> or may not be relevant. I use TB! remotely, it's actually on another PC on >>> a hard wired LAN and I access that PC with Microsoft's Remote Desktop. If >>> TB is running on the remote PC and the Remote Desktop link is closed, when >>> the link is re-opened, that's when it is likely to start processing folders >>> of its own accord. Very annoying as Task Manager is needed to kill it. My >>> legacy version 5.5.10 has no issues all and has never done this. HTH. TM>> Try Folder / Properties / Additional / On Exit TM>> Maybe this is the problem. I have taken all tickmarks off and do the maintenance manually. > Sadly it has made no difference, but thanks for the idea Thomas. If I > disconnect the Remote Desktop session to the PC actually running TB, with TB > still running normally on the remote PC, when i next connect a Remote > Desktop session TB just shows it's running folder maintenance, this won't > cancel or close, and the progress bar is empty and never populates, let alone > moves. Task Manager is the only fix, and TB then starts as if it were never > running. 5.8.10 never, ever did this, so it's something in later versions I > am sure. It's 100 percent repeatable. Can I log anything? So it seems to be related to the Remote Desktop. Sorry, I am not using it, so I have no ideas. If you can find the file exceptions.log in your TheBat! directory and either post it here or (better) send it directly to Ritlabs, they can dissect it and maybe find the reason for this behaviour. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font corruption in Maintenance Centre
Hello Chris, Thursday, June 30, 2022, 5:18:58 PM, you wrote: CW>> See link to screen shot. Plus, overnight a Processing Folders box appaears of its own accord, cannot be stopped nor closed and needs task Manager to kill it, at which point TB! restarts itself, despite it having been left running CW>> http://www.chriswilson.tv/maintenance-font.jpg CW>> Thanks, if it matters I updated from a legacy version the other day, I was running v5.8.10 > OK, some more info on Processing Folders starting up on its own, that may or > may not be relevant. I use TB! remotely, it's actually on another PC on a > hard wired LAN and I access that PC with Microsoft's Remote Desktop. If TB is > running on the remote PC and the Remote Desktop link is closed, when the link > is re-opened, that's when it is likely to start processing folders of its own > accord. Very annoying as Task Manager is needed to kill it. My legacy version > 5.5.10 has no issues all and has never done this. HTH. Try Folder / Properties / Additional / On Exit Maybe this is the problem. I have taken all tickmarks off and do the maintenance manually. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Editor
Hello Jernej, Monday, June 27, 2022, 11:16:28 PM, you wrote: > On Monday, June 27, 2022, 19:09:35, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> What are the biggest PITAs you experience with the editor, anyway? > For me it's the unreliable Enter key – especially inside quoted text you > never know where the paragraph will be inserted (if it's inserted at all), > and cursor often ends up in completely unrelated place. I second this. Kindly open a bug report. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Editor
Hello Stefan, Monday, June 27, 2022, 7:09:35 PM, you wrote: >> Just wondering if there is any plan to fix the editor. > Yes, we are currently working on making the old RichText-based editor back > with fixes as well as on making the HTML editor better. Most of problems > related to the HTML editor are caused by the fact that RichText format was > developed primarily for using in editors whilst HTML was developed for > viewers. So, combining these two conceptions is quite a task, and that's why > we decided to get the RTF back. Pardon me for jumping in: Thanks for working on it. > What are the biggest PITAs you experience with the editor, anyway? My biggest PITA is the sudden change of fonts while writing an email: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %CURSOR (was: Re: [SPAM?] Re: v10 beta 8)
Hello Ira, Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 11:23:49 AM, you wrote: >> This is not a beta issue, so we should discuss on TBUDL instead. >> >> The template macros are not case-sensitive. I believe that you inadvertedly >> used "$" instead of "%" in the template that didn't work, as you did in your >> reply just now. Could you check that? > The messed up editor is certainly a beta problem and the $ is me being a > terrible typist, the format I use that does not have the font problem any > more is the one I posted, show again below. I was quite surprised to find > that changing the case made a difference. It was certainly unexpected. Maybe > it was something else, but it was the only thing I could find that was > different between 2 seemingly identical formats, the only apparent > difference being the case of the word CURSOR. If you use my format exactly as > it is below, do you still see the problem? I am not using the latest beta, there are too many basic problems they need to sort out first. Kindly see my sig. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%CURSOR (was: Re: [SPAM?] Re: v10 beta 8)
Hello Ira, Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 9:14:18 AM, you wrote: >> Using %CURSOR now, no difference. Why? > I noticed in my instance that 2 different accounts replies worked different, > one had $Cursor and was broken, and the other had $CURSOR and worked. > Changing the mixed case one to upper case got rid of the weird font issue. > Maybe it was something else but here's my reply format, see if it works for > you it's all formatted as 12pt Arial HTML. > > > Hello %OFromFName, > %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: > %QUOTES > %CURSOR > -- Me > This is not a beta issue, so we should discuss on TBUDL instead. The template macros are not case-sensitive. I believe that you inadvertedly used "$" instead of "%" in the template that didn't work, as you did in your reply just now. Could you check that? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SPAM?] Re: v10 beta 8
Hello Ira, Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 12:06:59 AM, you wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Sunday, April 17, 2022, 11:08:38 PM, you wrote: >> Yes. Here is the template: >> >> %Quotes >> %Cursor >> >> %QInclude="tbsig" > Try replacing %Cursor with %CURSOR. I know it makes no sense, but try it. > Using %CURSOR now, no difference. Why? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SPAM?] Re: v10 beta 8
Hello Ira, Monday, April 18, 2022, 1:04:42 PM, you wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Sunday, April 17, 2022, 9:19:29 PM, you wrote: >> Has the HTML editor being fixed? It is really annoying to have to manually >> set the font back to what is was before the editor decided to just change >> the font at random for a paragraph. >> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 > Out of curiosity does the template you're using contain the tag " %Cursor"? > Yes. Here is the template: *** Hello %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor -- %QInclude="tbsig" *** -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OD: v10 beta 6
Hello Dimitar, Thursday, April 7, 2022, 8:58:21 PM, you wrote: Confirmed, Ritlabs please fix this asap. I use my phone. >>> We're not your internet provider so we cannot fix your internet connection, >>> sorry :) >> If off-line work is not possible with TB!v10, it is not a viable software >> for me. I often work offline and create or reply to emails, and hope to have >> internet connection later on to send these emails out, when in countries >> like Myanmar. >> >> I use a POP-clientm for the very reason that webmail is not an option in >> those countries: I would have access to email only when online. >> >> Sorry, this is an absolute show-stopper for me. > I can confirm that I am not able to even start beta 6 without internet > connection - after closing the "login to beta" window, TB just exits. This is > unacceptable. I use TB for the ability to access my huge email documentation > at all times. > > I hope this is just a beta issue or if not - that Ritlabs will reconsider and > allow us to travel and only require connection when it is needed - i.e for > receiving and sending emails. As opposed to turning TB into webmail. Point-in-case: I just worked while on an airplane. In this case, I just needed some info that was in some old emails, so I fired up my TB!v9 and looked it up. If TB!v10 does not start up if there is no internet connection, I cannot install it on my laptop. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor (was:[SPAM?] v10 beta 5)
Hello Ira, Saturday, March 19, 2022, 12:48:20 AM, you wrote: >> This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was >> introduced. > And yet from the lack of interest in acknowledging or trying to fix the > problem it would seem they forgot about it. So as it's the only bug that > really bothers me and half the point of the program is writing and sending > emails, I thought I'd remind them yet again that it's still broken. Kindly add a Note to the bug report. This will make it come to the top again in their list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor (was:[SPAM?] v10 beta 5)
Dear Ira, Friday, March 18, 2022, 2:36:33 PM, you wrote: >> The Bat! v10 beta 5 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/8 > It's installed and working . > > But the Reply editor and Properties/Templates is still REALLY BADLY messed > up. Here are some of the issues. > > There are hidden spaces with Courier font that I can't change and often can't > find, but when I reply to a message and start typing, the font is courier > even though I've selected the whole reply template and changed to to Arial > many times. Even when a template seems to be all Arial, under some conditions > like when pressing the up arrow onto an empty line, the font shows as Courier > but if I start on the line above and press Down Arrow, the Font shows as > Arial, > When pressing Reply the cursor starts in position 1 and pressing the down > arrow does nothing as if the cursor is in never never land. Pressing right a > couple of time move it over one space and then it starts to make sense. > > Sometimes pressing Enter does nothing. > This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was introduced. Kindly see https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V10 beta: It is time for me to step aside
Hello MAU, Monday, February 21, 2022, 11:53:03 PM, you wrote: > Tomorrow will be the 20th anniversary of my joining this beta list, Wow. I don't even know when I joined the beta list, could also be nearing 20 years. Anyway, you have been here forever, > SO LONG MY FRIENDS! IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE! AND PLEASE TAKE CARE! We will miss you. Stay in touch by PM if you like. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1
Hello Alex, Sunday, February 20, 2022, 8:41:57 AM, you wrote: >>> 3. Generally, I do not like it at all to have a forced open channel to a >>> The Bat server that cannot be deactivated. It should be for 'future plans', >>> that are not explained further. >> And I totally agree with this. This is a no-no. Furthermore, I read that he >> have to use the "correct" email address, so Ritlabs is now telling us which >> email address to use. I bought two licences, one for work (only release >> verions) and one for home (also for betas), but I use about 10 email >> addresses at home. > First of all, there's no "open connection". After you log in for a first > time, link your license, if there wasn't one on your account already, the > only request we're sending is > https://api.beta.thebat.net/api/beta-access/check, which is only being sent > one time after each program startup. So, this check is only for beta testers? OK, I can understand that you want to accept only registered beta testers. How about the other 5 checks? > Second, I don't really understand, what "correct" email addresses you're > talking about. Several people here reported that they cannot log in and they were told that they tried with the "wrong email address". I don't know what that means, you tell me. >>> I consider that too risky. So I prefer to wait until I read here more >>> trustful clarification. >> Looking for the explanation what the 6x HTTP queries to the Ritlabs server >> is all about, too. Only for beta testers, or for everyone who wants to run >> TB!? > It will be optional in release version, so you'll be able to choose, validate > your copy through program key, like it was before, or through The Bat! > Network account. Every time you start TheBat! is has to be verified? When using the release version? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Thomas, Thursday, August 19, 2021, 2:14:41 PM, you wrote: > Hello Stefan, > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:18:14 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 10:18 +0700 GMT), > Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Hello Gunivortus, >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:37:29 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 0:37 +0700 GMT), >> Gunivortus Goos wrote: >>> Hello, >>> This test message is written while in TB's footer bar >>> it is set to: >>> Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). >>> After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for >>> a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from >>> Arial 14 to Arial 11. >>> >>> Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu >>> failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. >>> Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. >> I understand this is your reply to mid:681002331.20210708103...@gmx.net >> >> Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in >> HTML emails" > Just happened again with 9.4.3.4. Bug still present in 9.5 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup/Restore
Hello TBBETA, I just moved TB! to this new laptop. Backup/Restore worked flawlessly. One wish though: The only thing (which I have encountered so far) that did not work were the settings which Sender's to allow for downloading images. This is a fairly new feature, and I guess that's why it was not included in the Backup. I therefore suggest to include this into the Backup/Restore function. Does anybody second the motion? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.2
Hello Zygmunt, Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 12:46:31 PM, you wrote: > On Tuesday, December 7, 2021, at 10:44:01 [UTC+0100] (Tuesday, December 7, > 2021 10:44 my local time) Gunivortus Goos wrote: >>> When replying to HTML messages with a plain-text template, the linebreaks >>> are missing. >> It looks, like that is also the problem in my previous message. >> My current footer is shown as: >> >> The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.5.2,Windows Pro 64 bit version >> 10, build nr. 19042NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 >> -- Kind regards,Gunivortus Goos >> The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.5.2Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, >> build nr. 19042NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0I confirm this problem, and therefore >> use previous version. Something was changed in the editor or reply mechanism >> because line breaks are discarded. Even though I cannot participate in beta testing during my current trip (I only have my work laptop with me), allow me to confirm that the HTML editor has been changing fonts and font sizes by itself since the introduction of the new editor. While these reports show it has gotten worse, there is an underlying problem that is older than this beta. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.5 Halloween Edition (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19042 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
