Re: Memory consumption high!!!
Hello Greg, Monday, September 26, 2005, 6:33:06 PM, you wrote: GS Well I've deleted the plug-in and rebooted. TB is running about 80MB GS in memory in my task manager. So it appear the plug-in was not the GS problem. Well, at least you can count that one out, then. BTW, I also use Nod32, but only tried out the plugin for a couple of hours. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 11:0:45) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!!
Hello Jernej, [ I think this should rather be on TBOT] Monday, September 26, 2005, 11:55:42 AM, you wrote: Not over here. I'm not an expert at all, perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I'm using Memory Zipper. JS Let me guess - a program that slows down the computer by forcing all JS programs into swap? Feel free to guess. But beware: perhaps we might use guess correction. :-) As I wrote: I'm not an expert. The number 1 in slowing down my computer (not by using much memory, but by simply doing what it is supposed to do) is . The Bat! Each time it is checking for mail, all other applications freeze. I can only say that I don't have the feeling that MZ slows down my computer. When I have more free time, I'll try to disable it and see how that affects my computer's behaviour. Actually I'm rather curious to see how long it will take then before Windows 2000 releases the memory that's being used at startup. When booting only 44 MB of my 512 MB is left... Well, perhaps you can find the answer to your (rethoric) question in here: ,--/ \ | It frees the memory which windows neglects and fails to release. There is | continuous supply of RAM which increases overall system speed. | | It defrags the RAM and makes available a large block of memory to system. It | reorganizes the Windows Swap File. Thus layout in memory matches perfectly | with that of swap file and it increases the CPU L1/L2 cache hits. Thus you | gain pure performance. | | It optimizes your RAM and makes sure, that you can use as much RAM as | possible for your daily work. | | It comes with Data Safe Feature. With data safe Memory Zipper checks for any | data not written to disk be written to disk so to prevent data loss. | | It repairs the memory leaks and avoids crashes, Blue Screens and unnecessary | slow downs. | | It comes with CPU Cooler to save power. Thus it will cool the cpu in the idle | time. | | It unloads unused DLL's from the memory to save resources. | | It fully integrates within windows and makes the continuous supply of the | resources to always-hungry programs. | | It comes with Cache Tunning Features so that you may optimize the way windows | uses the RAM. This not only result in efficient use of RAM, but faster disk | access, faster program access and fully efficient windows memory management. | | It increases the uptime of windows systems from few hours to weeks. Thus you | could have your server continuously running for weeks not days. | | This program has very small footprint in the memory and does not consume any | precious resources. It walks away from the fancy interface to give you core | performance without using much resources. Its Kernel is written in assembly | language for speed and size. It does not have any VXD's or system services to | slow down your system. It runs in low priority and does it's work in | background. | | It is fully customizable to suit your needs. It comes with auto | optimization features. Reorganize your RAM after every few minute to auto | protection. | | It comes with a task manager to remove unused tasks and also lets you to set | their priorities. | | It also have option to tune the Windows XP/2000/NT. | | Loads applications up to 30% faster | | It can be started with windows to do it's work since startup. | | It does not consume precious Task Bar Space and sits in System Tray. | | You have full control over the program or enable the auto settings for best | optimizations. | | Memory Zipper Plus works in background. But still you have a full control on | it. Just right click on it at taskbar and you could optimize the Memory at a | click , have a feel of it User interface. It uses very little resources in | the background and while continuously monitoring the leaks and repairing them | automatically. `-8--- -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 11:18:41) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!!
On Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 20:10:57, Mark Partous wrote: ,--/ \ | It frees the memory which windows neglects and fails to release. There is | continuous supply of RAM which increases overall system speed. | | It defrags the RAM and makes available a large block of memory to system. It | reorganizes the Windows Swap File. Thus layout in memory matches perfectly | with that of swap file and it increases the CPU L1/L2 cache hits. Thus you | gain pure performance. Yup, one of those programs. Read this article for more information about how these programs work: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=41095pg=1 | It optimizes your RAM and makes sure, that you can use as much RAM as | possible for your daily work. How, when it forces everything into swap? | It comes with Data Safe Feature. With data safe Memory Zipper checks for any | data not written to disk be written to disk so to prevent data loss. Usability of this is questionable - when you save something, Windows will usually dump it to disk as soon as this won't cause considerable slowdown in applications. If you'd rather have stuff written to disk immediately, you can turn off caching entirely in the System properties. | It repairs the memory leaks and avoids crashes, Blue Screens and unnecessary | slow downs. Bull###t. The only thing that can cause BSOD on NT kernel are bad drivers - and when that's the case, the only way to avoid it is to replace the driver. Memleaks cannot be repaired except by fixing them in the program that's leaking. Windows memory manager will automatically swap out the leaked memory anyway, and unless the program is leaking a lot (or running for a very long time), this won't affect the system (even then, there's nothing a 3rd party program could do). | It comes with CPU Cooler to save power. Thus it will cool the cpu in the idle | time. All NT-based Windows execute the HLT instruction in the idle loop, so the only way to cool down the CPU further is to call HLT from a higher-priority thread - slowing down the whole system. | It increases the uptime of windows systems from few hours to weeks. Thus you | could have your server continuously running for weeks not days. I've seen NT4, 2000 and 2003 servers with months of uptime, and the only thing that prevented them going for years are Microsoft's constant updates that require restart. I've also had Win98SE running for 27 days, though at the end, GDI resources were totally consumed, and Windows stopped updating the display. | This program has very small footprint in the memory and does not consume any | precious resources. It walks away from the fancy interface to give you core | performance without using much resources. Its Kernel is written in assembly | language for speed and size. It does not have any VXD's or system services to | slow down your system. It runs in low priority and does it's work in | background. Translation: this program works completely in user-space, which means that it can't actually do anything it's claiming to do. | It comes with a task manager to remove unused tasks and also lets you to set | their priorities. There's a ton of task managers out there, even a fairly good one in Windows itself (and guess what, it lets you set the process priorities). I'm cross-posting this to TBOT, further replies should go there. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Under any system, a few sharpies will beat the rest of us. -- Goodfader's Law Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!!
Hello Greg, Saturday, September 24, 2005, 5:35:10 AM, you wrote: GS What can you say? I just check the task manager and TB weighed in over GS 111MB. It isn't even close. TB is the BIGGEST memory HOG on my GS machine by almost a factor of 10. Not over here. I'm not an expert at all, perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I'm using Memory Zipper. Perhaps it has been asked before, but do you use any plugins? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 3:44:8) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!!
On Monday, September 26, 2005, 10:37:19, Mark Partous wrote: Not over here. I'm not an expert at all, perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I'm using Memory Zipper. Let me guess - a program that slows down the computer by forcing all programs into swap? -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When opportunity knocks, you've got headphones on. -- Law of Teenage Opportunity Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!! (was: Re: 3.61.07)
On 2005-09-23 at 19:39:53 Greg Strong wrote: Memory consumption is high at over 56 MB. After minimizing TB memory consumption drops to below 2 MB. Either something in TB is a memory hog or something is seriously wrong. Turn on the virtual memory column in Task Manager, and you'll see that The Bat always eats lots of memory, even if you minimize it. Windows always throws out as much memory of an application as it can when it is minimized; a very irritating, and in these days where memory is plentiful, nonsensical thing, but you can't turn it off, AFAIK. pgpaVrLkQLPNx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!!
Jernej Simoncic wrote: Windows always swaps the entire program when you minimize it. The same thing will happen no matter what program you use Indeed, although you can use the workaround mentioned in this article: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293215 Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird have a user-configurable option to disable the trash-your-pagefile-on-minimize feature. :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Memory consumption high!!! (was: Re: 3.61.07)
Hello Greg, Friday, September 23, 2005, 2:09:10 PM, you wrote: This has not always been the case. TB is the highest in my task manager. There has been numerous complaints about this issue over substantial periods of time. Nothing seems to be done about it. Agreed. This has been report on bug track. Still not resolved. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/