Re: Memory consumption high!!!

2005-09-27 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Greg,

Monday, September 26, 2005, 6:33:06 PM, you wrote:

GS Well I've deleted the plug-in and rebooted.  TB is running about 80MB
GS in memory in my task manager. So it appear the plug-in was not the
GS problem.

Well, at least you can count that one out, then.

BTW, I also use Nod32, but only tried out the plugin for a couple of hours.

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Re: Memory consumption high!!!

2005-09-27 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Jernej,

[ I think this should rather be on TBOT]

Monday, September 26, 2005, 11:55:42 AM, you wrote:

 Not over here. I'm not an expert at all, perhaps it has something to do with
 the fact that I'm using Memory Zipper.

JS Let me guess - a program that slows down the computer by forcing all
JS programs into swap?

Feel free to guess. But beware: perhaps we might use guess correction. :-)

As I wrote: I'm not an expert.

The number 1 in slowing down my computer (not by using much memory, but by
simply doing what it is supposed to do) is . The Bat! Each time
it is checking for mail, all other applications freeze.

I can only say that I don't have the feeling that MZ slows down my computer.
When I have more free time, I'll try to disable it and see how that affects
my computer's behaviour.

Actually I'm rather curious to see how long it will take then before Windows
2000 releases the memory that's being used at startup. When booting only
44 MB of my 512 MB is left...

Well, perhaps you can find the answer to your (rethoric) question in here:

,--/  \
|  It frees the memory which windows neglects and fails to release. There is
|  continuous supply of RAM which increases overall system speed.
|  
|  It defrags the RAM and makes available a large block of memory to system. It
|  reorganizes the Windows Swap File. Thus layout in memory matches perfectly
|  with that of swap file and it increases the CPU L1/L2 cache hits. Thus you
|  gain pure performance.
|  
|  It optimizes your RAM and makes sure, that you can use as much RAM as
|  possible for your daily work.
|  
|  It comes with Data Safe Feature.  With data safe Memory Zipper checks for any
|  data not written to disk be written to disk so to prevent data loss.
|  
|  It repairs the memory leaks and avoids crashes, Blue Screens and unnecessary
|  slow downs.
|  
|  It comes with CPU Cooler to save power. Thus it will cool the cpu in the idle
|  time.
|  
|  It unloads unused DLL's from the memory to save resources.
|  
|  It fully integrates within windows and makes the continuous supply of the
|  resources to always-hungry programs.
|  
|  It comes with Cache Tunning Features so that you may optimize the way windows
|  uses the RAM. This not only result in efficient use of RAM, but faster disk
|  access, faster program access and fully efficient windows memory management.
|  
|  It increases the uptime of windows systems from few hours to weeks. Thus you
|  could have your server continuously running for weeks not days.
|  
|  This program has very small footprint in the memory and does not consume any
|  precious resources. It walks away from the fancy interface to give you core
|  performance without using much resources.   Its Kernel is written in assembly
|  language for speed and size. It does not have any VXD's or system services to
|  slow down your system. It runs in low priority and does it's work in
|  background.
|  
|  It is fully customizable  to suit your needs.   It comes with auto
|  optimization features. Reorganize your RAM after every few minute to auto
|  protection.
|  
|  It comes with a task manager to remove unused tasks and also lets you to set
|  their priorities.
|  
|  It also have option to tune the Windows XP/2000/NT.
|  
|  Loads applications up to 30% faster
|  
|  It can be started with windows to do it's work since startup.
|  
|  It does not consume precious Task Bar Space and sits in System Tray.
|  
|  You have full control over the program or enable the auto settings for best
|  optimizations.
|  
|  Memory Zipper Plus works in background. But still you have a full control on
|  it. Just right click on it at taskbar and you could optimize the Memory at a
|  click , have a feel of it User interface. It uses very little resources in
|  the background and while continuously monitoring the leaks and repairing them
|  automatically.
`-8---


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Re: Memory consumption high!!!

2005-09-27 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 20:10:57, Mark Partous wrote:

 ,--/  \
 |  It frees the memory which windows neglects and fails to release. There is
 |  continuous supply of RAM which increases overall system speed.
 |
 |  It defrags the RAM and makes available a large block of memory to system. 
 It
 |  reorganizes the Windows Swap File. Thus layout in memory matches perfectly
 |  with that of swap file and it increases the CPU L1/L2 cache hits. Thus you
 |  gain pure performance.

Yup, one of those programs. Read this article for more information about how
these programs work:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=41095pg=1

 |  It optimizes your RAM and makes sure, that you can use as much RAM as
 |  possible for your daily work.

How, when it forces everything into swap?

 |  It comes with Data Safe Feature.  With data safe Memory Zipper checks for 
 any
 |  data not written to disk be written to disk so to prevent data loss.

Usability of this is questionable - when you save something, Windows will
usually dump it to disk as soon as this won't cause considerable slowdown in
applications. If you'd rather have stuff written to disk immediately, you
can turn off caching entirely in the System properties.

 |  It repairs the memory leaks and avoids crashes, Blue Screens and 
 unnecessary
 |  slow downs.

Bull###t. The only thing that can cause BSOD on NT kernel are bad drivers -
and when that's the case, the only way to avoid it is to replace the driver.
Memleaks cannot be repaired except by fixing them in the program that's
leaking. Windows memory manager will automatically swap out the leaked
memory anyway, and unless the program is leaking a lot (or running for a
very long time), this won't affect the system (even then, there's nothing a
3rd party program could do).

 |  It comes with CPU Cooler to save power. Thus it will cool the cpu in the 
 idle
 |  time.

All NT-based Windows execute the HLT instruction in the idle loop, so the
only way to cool down the CPU further is to call HLT from a higher-priority
thread - slowing down the whole system.

 |  It increases the uptime of windows systems from few hours to weeks. Thus 
 you
 |  could have your server continuously running for weeks not days.

I've seen NT4, 2000 and 2003 servers with months of uptime, and the only
thing that prevented them going for years are Microsoft's constant updates
that require restart. I've also had Win98SE running for 27 days, though at
the end, GDI resources were totally consumed, and Windows stopped updating
the display.

 |  This program has very small footprint in the memory and does not consume 
 any
 |  precious resources. It walks away from the fancy interface to give you core
 |  performance without using much resources.   Its Kernel is written in 
 assembly
 |  language for speed and size. It does not have any VXD's or system services 
 to
 |  slow down your system. It runs in low priority and does it's work in
 |  background.

Translation: this program works completely in user-space, which means that
it can't actually do anything it's claiming to do.

 |  It comes with a task manager to remove unused tasks and also lets you to 
 set
 |  their priorities.

There's a ton of task managers out there, even a fairly good one in Windows
itself (and guess what, it lets you set the process priorities).

I'm cross-posting this to TBOT, further replies should go there.

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Re: Memory consumption high!!!

2005-09-26 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Greg,

Saturday, September 24, 2005, 5:35:10 AM, you wrote:

GS What can you say? I just check the task manager and TB weighed in over
GS 111MB.  It isn't even close. TB is the BIGGEST memory HOG on my
GS machine by almost a factor of 10.

Not over here. I'm not an expert at all, perhaps it has something to do with
the fact that I'm using Memory Zipper.

Perhaps it has been asked before, but do you use any plugins?

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Re: Memory consumption high!!!

2005-09-26 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Monday, September 26, 2005, 10:37:19, Mark Partous wrote:

 Not over here. I'm not an expert at all, perhaps it has something to do with
 the fact that I'm using Memory Zipper.

Let me guess - a program that slows down the computer by forcing all
programs into swap?

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Re: Memory consumption high!!! (was: Re: 3.61.07)

2005-09-23 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2005-09-23 at 19:39:53 Greg Strong wrote:

 Memory consumption is high at over 56 MB. After minimizing TB memory
 consumption drops to below 2 MB. Either something in TB is a memory
 hog or something is seriously wrong.

Turn on the virtual memory column in Task Manager, and you'll see that
The Bat always eats lots of memory, even if you minimize it.

Windows always throws out as much memory of an application as it can
when it is minimized; a very irritating, and in these days where
memory is plentiful, nonsensical thing, but you can't turn it off,
AFAIK.


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Re: Memory consumption high!!!

2005-09-23 Thread Dimitry Andric
Jernej Simoncic wrote:
 Windows always swaps the entire program when you minimize it. The same thing
 will happen no matter what program you use

Indeed, although you can use the workaround mentioned in this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293215

Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird have a user-configurable option to
disable the trash-your-pagefile-on-minimize feature. :)



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Re[2]: Memory consumption high!!! (was: Re: 3.61.07)

2005-09-23 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello Greg,

Friday, September 23, 2005, 2:09:10 PM, you wrote:

 This has not always been the case. TB is the highest in my task
 manager.  There has been numerous complaints about this issue over
 substantial periods of time. Nothing seems to be done about it.


Agreed.  This has been report on bug track.  Still not resolved.

Jerry

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