Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken - Fixed after reinstall
I was just contemplating the nuclear option but now I'm not so sure. Well I did it. A complete reinstall. What a nightmare only made slightly better because I created a script to switch between the old and new installations by copying the program and mail folders and reloading the registry for each installation. It only take you so far and there is still a massive amount to do manually. Filters can be copied and pasted via Notepad so are relatively straightforward. I didn't have any solution for: 1) Creating a $JUNK$ folder at the account level. Many junk filters referred to this. 2) Virtual folders all need to be recreated. Some had quite complex filters. 3) All Tags are lost 4) All Colour groups are lost 5) Recreating the templates at the various account and folder levels is painful. You need to remember which folder have their own templates for New, Reply and Forward. 6) Don't import your old address book. Just copy the old address book. It's amazing how customization has been done since v1.62. I'm sure there's a lot more to discover over the next few days and weeks. The bottom line is that incoming IMAP filtering now works again. I wish I felt more pleased about it. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken - Fixed after reinstall
Hello Tony, I was just contemplating the nuclear option but now I'm not so sure. TH Well I did it. A complete reinstall. What a nightmare only made TH slightly better because I created a script to switch between the old TH and new installations by copying the program and mail folders and TH reloading the registry for each installation. TH It only take you so far and there is still a massive amount to do TH manually. All the settings and modifications (templates, color groups, filters, etc.) are saved in some files in the Mail-Directory. There is a great list of which file contains which setting on the German batboard.net: http://www.batboard.net/board108-h-ufige-fragen/board83-dateiverwaltung/11616-wo-befinden-sich-welche-einstellungen-informationen/ Maybe you can run this page through Google translate. You might be able to copy one older file after the other to the new Mail-directory. Perhaps you save a little time and don't have to recreate everything from scratch. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.3.8.5 (BETA) Pro on Windows 7 SP1 32Bit, without OTFE Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken - Fixed after reinstall
Hello mse, All the settings and modifications (templates, color groups, filters, etc.) are saved in some files in the Mail-Directory. There is a great list of which file contains which setting on the German batboard.net: http://www.batboard.net/board108-h-ufige-fragen/board83-dateiverwaltung/11616-wo-befinden-sich-welche-einstellungen-informationen/ Maybe you can run this page through Google translate. You might be able to copy one older file after the other to the new Mail-directory. Perhaps you save a little time and don't have to recreate everything from scratch. Thanks for the tip. I was able to get the quick templates back as they are in a separate file. I believed the .FLB is where most of the configuration is held for the account - and so it turns out. I copied in the old .FLB and my virtual folders reappeared but FILTERS STOPPED WORKING. Replaced it with the new version and the filters started working again. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.3.8.5
The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar What's new in 5.3.8.5 since 5.3.8.4: [+] PluginAPI. Message tags can be manipulated [*] Some cosmetics fixes in form TlsTrust.dfm [-] Date decoding can fail if specified date is before January 1, 1601 (UTC) [-] Sometimes messages from closed password protected account are shown in Mail Ticker and can be viewed when double-clicked. To workaround this issue ask password. Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5
Hello Maxim, hello List! * Maxim Masiutin wrote '[1]: The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar Up running -- Regards, Christoph TheBat! v5.3.8.5 (BETA) unter Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 64bit [1] ~ Nachricht vom: 19.03.2013 @ 17:16:02 +0200 GMT mid:966389409.20130319171...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5
The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar What's new in 5.3.8.5 since 5.3.8.4: [+] PluginAPI. Message tags can be manipulated [*] Some cosmetics fixes in form TlsTrust.dfm [-] Date decoding can fail if specified date is before January 1, 1601 (UTC) [-] Sometimes messages from closed password protected account are shown in Mail Ticker and can be viewed when double-clicked. To workaround this issue ask password. PluginAPI to access data? Now that's interesting. I thought there's only API to implement AV and spam checks. How is it to be accessed? TBPInterface.pas from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/api/thebat_plugin_api.zip seems to declare a COM-based interface but I don't see any CLSIDs or relevant registrations in registry. Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
Hello Maxim, The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar IMAP incoming filtering still broken. Please, please, PLEASE take a look at this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=152 -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
Tony, On 19-03-2013 17:58, you wrote in mid:1693679280.20130319165...@parkinch.co.uk: Hello Maxim, The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar IMAP incoming filtering still broken. Please, please, PLEASE take a look at this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=152 IMAP filters have been broken for 2-3 years. I think Ritlabs have given up. I have decided that I will not upgrade unless this is fixed. Nobody from Ritlabs have contacted any on the people on this list with issues to try an fix the problem. Either they have decided that it's a bad business decision to fix it - or they are simply unable to. I have been using TB since some 1.x (maybe 2.x) version but this inability to meet my needs (and their quality control) make any coming version not interesting for me. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 5.3.4 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras env. 4 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env. os Windows 6.2 Build 9200 /os Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5
On Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 10:16:02 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar after exiting TB! to copy extracted file, had to kill thebat process before could copy. this is not the first time I've had to do this. -- Dwight A. Corrin h: 316.303.9385 c: 316.207.6581 dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
Hello Peter, Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 5:41:45 PM, you wrote: Tony, IMAP filters have been broken for 2-3 years. I think Ritlabs have given up. I have decided that I will not upgrade unless this is fixed. Nobody from Ritlabs have contacted any on the people on this list with issues to try an fix the problem. Either they have decided that it's a bad business decision to fix it - or they are simply unable to. I have been using TB since some 1.x (maybe 2.x) version but this inability to meet my needs (and their quality control) make any coming version not interesting for me. It is depressing. They were working fine at one point until a recent beta. That beta did something permanent so that even going back quite a number of versions the filters are permanently broken. Apparently it doesn't rate as highly as dates failing before 1601. :-( On the plus side, my backup procedure is 10x better now that I'm using rsync so that I have a snapshot twice a day. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5
On Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 10:16:02 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar after exiting TB! to copy extracted file, had to kill thebat process before could copy. this is not the first time I've had to do this. I experience this too from time to time but typically it just takes TB some time to shut down. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
Hello Peter, Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 5:41:45 PM, you wrote: Tony, IMAP filters have been broken for 2-3 years. I think Ritlabs have given up. I have decided that I will not upgrade unless this is fixed. Nobody from Ritlabs have contacted any on the people on this list with issues to try an fix the problem. Either they have decided that it's a bad business decision to fix it - or they are simply unable to. I have been using TB since some 1.x (maybe 2.x) version but this inability to meet my needs (and their quality control) make any coming version not interesting for me. It is depressing. They were working fine at one point until a recent beta. That beta did something permanent so that even going back quite a number of versions the filters are permanently broken. Apparently it doesn't rate as highly as dates failing before 1601. :-( On the plus side, my backup procedure is 10x better now that I'm using rsync so that I have a snapshot twice a day. There's little they can do without being able to reproduce the problem. Since only a few people w/o any specific setup experience this, it's most probably a DB corruption issue. (on the other hand, the fact that we can't diagnose/fix this ourselves comes from the closeness of their DB format) I suggest you to send them your base and/or recreate it from scratch. Filters can be exported, a backup/wipe/restore might do the trick too. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
I highly doubt this is a database corruption issue - simply because I experienced it from day 1 of a new install on a new machine - having not used TB! for about 5 years. Its also intermittent, i.e. some a few messages filter correctly from this group into my folder - other days (like today) None of them filtered, so I had to hit re-filter on the inbox - and Lo - everything moved as expected. TB! has what software developers call a bad smell about in - with random failures and recurrent problems on issues which should have been resolved years ago, I strongly suspect it could do with a complete re-write! --- Thx Graham Message reply created with The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1- Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
Hello Ivan, There's little they can do without being able to reproduce the problem. Since only a few people w/o any specific setup experience this, it's most probably a DB corruption issue. (on the other hand, the fact that we can't diagnose/fix this ourselves comes from the closeness of their DB format) I suggest you to send them your base and/or recreate it from scratch. Filters can be exported, a backup/wipe/restore might do the trick too. I have offered to run any debug build and supply any logs, etc. needed to get to the bottom of this. I am finally building up to a wipe and reinstall. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken
Hello gandalfmeister, Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 8:13:00 PM, you wrote: I highly doubt this is a database corruption issue - simply because I experienced it from day 1 of a new install on a new machine - having not used TB! for about 5 years. I was just contemplating the nuclear option but now I'm not so sure. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
