Message transfer and filter problems [was Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available]

2005-11-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 1:30 PM, you wrote:

 All 8 messages for tbbeta sat in the inbox rather than in the tbbeta
 folder after importing.

 This beta definitely is unusable for me (OTFE).

Ah, the one parameter I didn't ask about.

I'm running TB! Pro, but not using OTFE.

 9VAL ... pliez ... ;)

:)

A little help for users of OTFE with message transfer and filter
problems?

I hope someone will confirm the problem for you, Peter

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Re: Message transfer and filter problems [was Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available]

2005-11-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 2:25 PM, you wrote:

MB I hope someone will confirm the problem for you, Peter

 So do I! ;)

 But the much better chance would be a confirmation and a proof of
 reproducibility by 9Val or Max.

9Val!

Max!!

Have a look, please? :)

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Re[2]: v.3.0.0.6 New filter problems!

2004-09-05 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello 9Val,

Sunday, September 5, 2004, 11:11:06 AM, among other things, you wrote:

9 Hello Roger,  

RP The  'Park  Message' action has been removed from the menu and all of
RP my filters!

RP  9Val, what's the story here?

9 Don't know, look to screenshots I've just made

I've   already  sent  another  message  admitting  that  I  was blind!
cringe

RP The  'Selective  download'  filter,  using  strings  from  the Bayesit
RP selective.txt  file, is back to its old tricks and 'killed' ALL of one
RP batch of mail!  I've had it disabled until now and should have learned
RP my  lesson from last time and tried it first with the 'Ignore' action.
RP sighsobtears.

9 Quite strange since I haven't changed it at all

I  didn't  think  you had, I assumed Bayesit has included something in
Selective.txt  which  is  matched in every message. I think I may have
found the offending string, SpamAssassin. My ISP uses this programme
for  spam  detection  and therefore every message includes this string
somewhere in the Header.

I  have now included this string in the Whitelist, and have deleted it
manually from selective.txt, but I'm not sure whether, or how quickly,
Bayesit will take action.  Will wait, watch, and test!

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Re: Filter problems

2000-08-03 Thread Ming-Li

Hi phil,

 I made a "Catch All Filter" for my personal use like this.

[example snipped]

Thanks, phil. If you read through the thread, however, you would
find the problem I (or Marek) have isn't to come up with a perfect
filter condition (string) that would catch all. The problem is, I
have some "munual" filters that I don't want to run when I
*re-filter* a folder. Marck suggested using a "catch-all" filter
between automatic filters and manual filters as a "stop point",
which I think is a good idea. Nevertheless, a catch-all filter has
to move messages somewhere, and I don't want messages (that fall
into the "catch-all" category) moved at all when I re-filter a
folder. Hence the problem.

Thanks anyway.

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Re[2]: Filter problems

2000-08-03 Thread phil

Aye Ming-Li!

On  Thursday, August 03, 2000  at  14:37:52 GMT -0700 (which was 2:37 PM where you 
think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

ML Hi phil,

 I made a "Catch All Filter" for my personal use like this.

ML [example snipped]

ML Thanks, phil. If you read through the thread, however, you would
ML find the problem I (or Marek) have isn't to come up with a perfect
ML filter condition (string) that would catch all. The problem is, I
ML have some "munual" filters that I don't want to run when I
ML *re-filter* a folder. Marck suggested using a "catch-all" filter
ML between automatic filters and manual filters as a "stop point",
ML which I think is a good idea. Nevertheless, a catch-all filter has
ML to move messages somewhere, and I don't want messages (that fall
ML into the "catch-all" category) moved at all when I re-filter a
ML folder. Hence the problem.

ML Thanks anyway.

I  follow ya.   Yeah I don't see how that can be done except maybe
moving the messages's twice maybe to a temp holding folder, then move
them back to the original folder, but then you'd probably have to
manually filter it twice.

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Filter problems They are gone! Re-visited

2000-08-03 Thread Ben Pugsley

Since my last posting, I have replaced the filters from my last backup...
still I had to add several that I had added since the BU.

What I really want to know, is what could have happened to them?  I had done
nothing to or made no changes to the TB folder, or its mail folder.  I'm at a
loss...  do seem to remember reading about someone else who had lost
filters...

Original posting follows:

Hi,

Speaking of filters, I wondered where all my mail had gone, and looked up and
the inbox had MANY messages.  I checked and they should have been filtered.  I
checked my filters and they were ALL gone... only one that I had created a day
or so ago to catch some SPAM was still there...

Help Are they really gone?  What should I look for?

Thanks... I would hate to redo them, there were some 30 working filters.


thanks

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Filter problems

2000-08-02 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello,

  I need to do following function:

  delete from folder (not to Trash) selected message by defined
  schortcut, but not, if is parked or flagged.

  I created following filtr:

  - String : @
  - "Actions/Delete the messag"e selected
  - "Options/Execute action set of this rule" selected
  - Schotcut - Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O
  - "Advanced/Message is unparked" selected
  - "Advanced/Message is not flagged" selected

  When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on parked message,
  this message disappears in this folder. When I change folder and
  select back to previous, message is still there - cosmetic bug.
  Same problem, when I uncheck options "Message is unparked" and
  "Message is not flagged" in section "Advanced.

  When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on flagged message,
  this message is deleted! - section Advanced was not used, I think.

can somebody confirm?

  
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Re: Filter problems

2000-08-02 Thread Ming-Li

Hi Marek,

   I need to do following function:

   delete from folder (not to Trash) selected message by defined
   schortcut, but not, if is parked or flagged.

   I created following filtr:

   - String : @
   - "Actions/Delete the messag"e selected
   - "Options/Execute action set of this rule" selected
   - Schotcut - Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O
   - "Advanced/Message is unparked" selected
   - "Advanced/Message is not flagged" selected

   When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on parked message,
   this message disappears in this folder. When I change folder and
   select back to previous, message is still there - cosmetic bug.

Confirmed.

   Same problem, when I uncheck options "Message is unparked" and
   "Message is not flagged" in section "Advanced.

   When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on flagged
   message, this message is deleted! - section Advanced was not
   used, I think.

You're right, when applying a filter on selected messages with a
hotkey, no filtering conditions (including the search string, and
conditions in the advanced pane) would be used, IF the source folder
is the same as the destination folder, UNLESS the option "Check the
selected messages against this rule" is checked. Confusing? You bet.

And this is designed behavior, not a bug. (Speaking with a straight
face. :-| ) What happened to parked messages in your case is
accidental: parked messages can't be deleted with a filter no matter
what (before unparking it first), not because TB abides to the
condition you set.

A bit of history (from someone with a little more than 2 month's
experience):

It's long been lamented that TB's filters, with all its prowess,
couldn't be used without moving messages to a certain folder. Hence
RIT designed sort of a backdoor trick as described above. (Or it's
been there all long, I don't know.) So you may set both the source
folder and the destination folder to Inbox, and apply the filter to
other folders with a hotkey without those messages being moved to
Inbox. IOW, pressing the hotkey would simply do the designated
"actions" on selected messages, with no regard to any other
condition.

For your purpose, enable the ""Check the selected messages against
this rule" will do. Theoretically, it would make TB move the matched
messages to the destination folder (even if it's the same as the
source folder), but it won't be a problem here since TB execute the
"delete" action first, hence no messages left to move.

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