Re: 5.0.22.12 - EImapUnexpectedSocketClosedNoError

2011-11-30 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Maxim,

 The Bat! version 5.0.26.14 will give meaningful messages about IMAP
 disconnects, so you will be able to figure out the problem. Previous versions
 did simply give Connection unexpectedly closed on all errors, without
 giving the explanation or details of the error. I suggest you to enable
 protocol logging in the account properties. This will be eating some disk
 space, but you will be able to see why the connections are broken.

Well, it appears that the unexpected close is in another account - not
my main one. As I said, I have loads of accounts and was hoping the
log would show which account the exception was in. All I see is:

v5.0.26.14 (ALPHA) SILVER/Tony 30/11/2011 12:01:00.687 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapSocketClosedDuringIdle 


Date: 30 Nov 2011 12:01:00
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 1427/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1893/2047 MB
Address: 009BBC22
ClassName: EImapSocketClosedDuringIdle
Message: 
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 2029203250 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 009BBC22 [0040]
 009BBC1D [0040]
 00406ABF [0040]
snip

I'll get around to protocol logging on all accounts.

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Re: 5.0.22.12 - EImapUnexpectedSocketClosedNoError

2011-11-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tony,

Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 3:42:04 PM, you wrote:

TH v5.0.26.14 (ALPHA) SILVER/Tony 30/11/2011 12:01:00.687 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapSocketClosedDuringIdle

This is not a big error. The connection was idle and then eventually
the  server  (or  an itermediary router) has closed the connection. If
you  will be able to figure out that idle (i.e. no data sent for a few
minutes)  connections  are  closed, you will be able to use the option
Re-send idle command each 30 seconds.

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Re: 5.0.22.12 - EImapUnexpectedSocketClosedNoError

2011-11-29 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tony,

Saturday, August 27, 2011, 4:42:41 PM, you wrote:

TH Still getting dozens of these per day. Could we please have more debug
TH info so we can get to the bottom of this? I have a number if IMAP
TH accounts with different servers and it would be useful to identify
TH which connection has closed.

The Bat! version 5.0.26.14 will give meaningful messages about IMAP
disconnects, so you will be able to figure out the problem. Previous versions
did simply give Connection unexpectedly closed on all errors, without
giving the explanation or details of the error. I suggest you to enable
protocol logging in the account properties. This will be eating some disk
space, but you will be able to see why the connections are broken.


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Re: 5.0.22.12

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Re: 5.0.22.12 - Vertical scrollbar missing if viewing large received emails

2011-09-16 Thread GwenDragon
Bug reported https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8877


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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight,

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:04:57 -0500 GMT (16/Sep/11, 10:04 AM +0700 GMT),
Dwight Corrin wrote:

CP:

I  think  we are experiencing the same thing. I use the micro editor.
The works as a signal for quoted text for how many spaces you have 
specified.  In  this message the line that starts 'The ' shows up as 
text and if I block and copy the  gets copied.

Quotes:

DC I  think  we are experiencing the same thing. I use the micro editor. 
The works as a signal for quoted text for how many spaces you have
DC specified.  In  this message the line that starts 'The ' shows up as 
DC text and if I block and copy the  gets copied.

For me, this is WAD.

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, 12:06:32 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:
 
 Why would that be the case? If I select something I expect it to be
 exactly what will be copied.

As  long  as  you  just argue with the explainations, you are going to
continue to not understand it.

 I'm pretty sure that change was introduced with 5.x and I for one
 didn't ask for it. I find it annoying.

i'm  pretty  sure  that it was this way when I started using TB in the
1.x era.
 
 
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Raymund,

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:06:32 +0200GMT (15-9-2011, 19:06:32 , where I
live), you wrote:

RTT Why would that be the case? If I select something I expect it to be
RTT exactly what will be copied.

Well. The whole issue is that you cannot select it.
Therefore you cannot copy.

RTT Additionally the setting is there to enable the editor to reasonably
RTT highlight quotes and I still don't see a connection to the selection.
RTT Unfortunately the help doesn't tell you anything about it (but to my
RTT surprise there is a help topic for that preference tab).

And that setting is also used to decide what to select and what not.

RTT I'm pretty sure that change was introduced with 5.x and I for one
RTT didn't ask for it. I find it annoying.

It wasn't introduced with 5.x
I  just  tried  it  with  4.2.4  an  4.2.36.4  and  they show the same
behaviour.

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, 19:12:47, Dwight Corrin wrote:

 i'm  pretty  sure  that it was this way when I started using TB in the
 1.x era.

It wasn't - it was introduced with the new Rich Text Viewer.

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, 1:56:09 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote:
 
 i'm  pretty  sure  that it was this way when I started using TB in the
 1.x era.

 It wasn't - it was introduced with the new Rich Text Viewer. 

I'll take your word for it, since I have no way to go back and see. In 
any event it is not some new behavior. 
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, 2:10:55 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:
 
 Well that's interesting. I'm pretty sure I didn't see that in 4.x but
 maybe I just never tried to copy something (or used a different
 editor). 

only  if  you  are  copying  something with the quote mark character. 
that's the only character which causes this problem 
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, 3:28:42 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:
 
 Maybe we should try to figure out why you experience something else
 than I do. I use MicroEd in Plaintext. How about you? 

I  think  we are experiencing the same thing. I use the micro editor. 
The works as a signal for quoted text for how many spaces you have 
specified.  In  this message the line that starts 'The ' shows up as 
text and if I block and copy the  gets copied.

If however I deleted the space between it shows up as quoted text. In 
fiddling with this I see that it does still get copied though. 

 

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight,

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:06:14 -0500 GMT (16/Sep/11, 4:06 AM +0700 GMT),
Dwight Corrin wrote:

 Maybe we should try to figure out why you experience something else
 than I do. I use MicroEd in Plaintext. How about you? 

I  think  we are experiencing the same thing. I use the micro editor. 
The works as a signal for quoted text for how many spaces you have 
specified.  In  this message the line that starts 'The ' shows up as 
text and if I block and copy the  gets copied.

If however I deleted the space between it shows up as quoted text. In 
fiddling with this I see that it does still get copied though. 

 

The above is copied with crtl-C from your message and then pasted with
crtl-V into the editor, so no %Quotes macro used. That may mess up the
quote levels, but just to make a point: In v4 (MircoEd) the quote
marks are copied correctly.

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, 7:11:20 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
 
 The above is copied with crtl-C from your message and then pasted with
 crtl-V into the editor, so no %Quotes macro used. That may mess up the
 quote levels, but just to make a point: In v4 (MircoEd) the quote
 marks are copied correctly. 

likewise correct below with 5.0.22.14

 Maybe we should try to figure out why you experience something else
 than I do. I use MicroEd in Plaintext. How about you? 

I  think  we are experiencing the same thing. I use the micro editor. 
The works as a signal for quoted text for how many spaces you have 
specified.  In  this message the line that starts 'The ' shows up as 
text and if I block and copy the  gets copied.

If however I deleted the space between it shows up as quoted text. In 
fiddling with this I see that it does still get copied though. 

  
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-14 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 4:54:22 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:
 
 What does the quote name limit that only exists to avoid problems with
 the initial quoting (like 'RTT ') and mail transfer agents that
 exchange any from with 'from' have to do with me selecting text? 

isn't it obvious? 
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Raymund,

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:12:23 +0200GMT (15-9-2011, 0:12:23 , where I
live), you wrote:

 exchange any from with 'from' have to do with me selecting text?
 isn't it obvious?
RTT It is not.

 Okay, let's put it like this:
  is used to mark quotes
 When you select a bunch of quotes, you don't want to select the quote
 prefix.
 So  a  text that includes the  sign within the quote name limit (you
 can define that yourself) is considered partly quote prefix.

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5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread GwenDragon
Hello,

if i receive a mail containing a  in the text, i can not select the
complete line.

Try this:

1) Send a mail to yourself containing this text:

Test1234567
Auz76!-iUzU5fsx

2) Try to select the second line in mail windows or preview
3) Complete Line can not be selected

In TheBat! 4.2.44.2 and Voyager 5.0.9 and other mail clients like
Opera or Thunderbird selecting the complete second line works fine!

Is this a bug and known problem?
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo GwenDragon,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:37:51 +0200GMT (13-9-2011, 12:37:51 , where I
live), you wrote:

G 1) Send a mail to yourself containing this text:

G Test1234567
G Auz76!-iUzU5fsx

G 2) Try to select the second line in mail windows or preview
G 3) Complete Line can not be selected

 Can be selected here. No problem.
 I think it's a WAD (works as designed)
 TB thinks it's a quote due to the  sign.
 Probably  thesign doesn't exceed the number of characters you've
 configured in:
 Options - Preferences - Editor preferences - Quote name limit
 I had that set as 20 and I couldn't select your text, I changed it to
 1  (had  to  close  and  restart TB to get it to kick in) and I could
 select it.

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread Stuart
Hello Gwen,
Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 5:37:51 AM, you wrote:

 if i receive a mail containing a  in the text, i can not select the
 complete line.

 Try this:

 1) Send a mail to yourself containing this text:

 Test1234567
Auz76!-iUzU5fsx

 2) Try to select the second line in mail windows or preview
 3) Complete Line can not be selected

I just tried to select the text in the original message and as you say it will 
not select the whole line. I can select it all in Roelof's reply and in the 
text 
above, so I think it is some sort of bug.


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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread GwenDragon
Hello Roelof Otten,
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, at 13:25:59 [GMT +0200] (which was 13:25:59
where I live) Roelof Otten wrote:

  Can be selected here. No problem.
  I think it's a WAD (works as designed)
  TB thinks it's a quote due to the  sign.

Works a designed? I don't think that disabling copypaste is really
useful.

The editor should mark some text with a  in it a quote but not disable the
selection of text.
That is a usablity error if TheBat prevents me copying content from a
text mail.

I think this is a bug because in older versions of TheBat and Voyager this 
worked
fine.

Ok, i'll wait reportuing this as a bug until Ritlabs devs will anwser
my  post.

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 8:44:53 AM, GwenDragon wrote:
 
 Works a designed? I don't think that disabling copypaste is really
 useful.

 The editor should mark some text with a  in it a quote but not disable the
 selection of text.
 That is a usablity error if TheBat prevents me copying content from a
 text mail. 

as  Roelof,  explained,  it's  a  problem with your settings. Fix the 
settings, fix the problem. 
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 10:39:14 AM, Raymund Tump wrote:
 
 I respectfully disagree. It is a software bug. 

If  you define the quote name limit to be, for example, 1o characters 
wide,  it  would  be  a  bug if you could select the quote name while 
selecting text. The problem is that the user has defined the text they 
are  wanting  to  copy  as  being  part of a quote name, not that the 
software is performing incorrectly.
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread GwenDragon
Hello Dwight Corrin,
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, at 10:36:48 [GMT -0500] (which was 17:36:48
where I live) Dwight Corrin wrote:

 as  Roelof,  explained,  it's  a  problem with your settings. Fix the 
 settings, fix the problem.

Changing editor setting is not useful. Setting quote name limit of to 1
disables detection of quotes.
Sorry, but i want to have quotes autodetected.
If TheBat detects 12345zu676tzr65 as a quotes it is a design error!
Quotes normally end with  and a space.

Please, I want to be able to copy text from the mail, that's the problem!
Not the display of quote names.

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Website: http://www.gwendragon.de/
E-Mail:  g...@gwendragon.de

== PGP ==
E-Mail mit GnuPG signiert/Signed with GnuPG

GnuPG-Signatur DSA/1024
Key-ID:  0x6E56AC7D4492AD16
Fingerprint: 0BC8 DDF7 E381 190B AF7D  A327 6E56 AC7D 4492 AD16
== PGP ==

pgpZVG288Gu8s.pgp
Description: PGP signature

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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 10:55:37 AM, GwenDragon wrote:
 
 Changing editor setting is not useful. Setting quote name limit of to 1
 disables detection of quotes.

actually it doesn't disable detection of quotes, it disables detection 
of  quotes which use text ahead of the quote character. setting to to 
will detect G, and to 4 would detect dac

 Sorry, but i want to have quotes autodetected.
 If TheBat detects 12345zu676tzr65 as a quotes it is a design error! 
 
if it's set to 5 or less, this won't be detected as a quote.
  
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Re: 5.0.22.12: Can't select text containig in previw/mail window

2011-09-13 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 17:53:14, Dwight Corrin wrote:

 If  you define the quote name limit to be, for example, 1o characters
 wide,  it  would  be  a  bug if you could select the quote name while 
 selecting text. The problem is that the user has defined the text they
 are  wanting  to  copy  as  being  part of a quote name, not that the 
 software is performing incorrectly.

IMHO, TB having this setting is a bug by itself. I often get e-mails
that have deeply nested quotes, and I also often get e-mails that have
the  character in the middle of text, like this line. This line is
obviously not a quote, but try getting The Bat to recognize this,
while keeping it recognising the following line as a deeply nested
quote:

   some text, 5 levels deep

If nothing else, The Bat should have a setting to only recognize a
line as a quote if it starts with the following regexp: ^[ ]+

-- 
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5.0.22.12 - Vertical scrollbar missing if viewing large received emails

2011-09-11 Thread GwenDragon
Hello,

i'm receiving large mails (about 1.7 MBytes) as text mail from some
servers administrated by me.

If i select the mail in message viewer no scrollbar is visible.
Even if i open such mail no vertical scrollbar is displayed.

Did you notice such problems with large mails?

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Webmistress

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Website: http://www.gwendragon.de/
E-Mail:  g...@gwendragon.de

== PGP ==
E-Mail mit GnuPG signiert/Signed with GnuPG

GnuPG-Signatur DSA/1024
Key-ID:  0x6E56AC7D4492AD16
Fingerprint: 0BC8 DDF7 E381 190B AF7D  A327 6E56 AC7D 4492 AD16
== PGP ==

pgpRWZCePQHBn.pgp
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5.0.22.12 - Invalid pointer operation

2011-09-07 Thread Rick
Invalid pointer operation - Log attached
This came up when viewing messages in the preview window
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All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream
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Re: 5.0.22.12 - Filtering problems. An observation.

2011-08-30 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Maxim,
 The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb502212.rar

I suspect that one of the reasons for filtering being to very slow is that 
TB logs in  out for each filtered message. Furthermore, it seems to 
not  close the SSL connection properly. I can watch these connections 
come and go completely synchronised with the filter dialog updating.

My Courier mail server log is full of these:

Aug 30 16:05:25 junkbox imapd-ssl: Unexpected SSL connection shutdown.
Aug 30 16:05:27 junkbox imapd-ssl: Connection, ip=[:::192.168.1.46]
Aug 30 16:05:27 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGIN, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
port=[1774], protocol=IMAP
Aug 30 16:05:28 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGOUT, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
headers=0, body=3217, rcvd=624, sent=1515688, time=10, starttls=1
Aug 30 16:05:28 junkbox imapd-ssl: Unexpected SSL connection shutdown.
Aug 30 16:05:30 junkbox imapd-ssl: Connection, ip=[:::192.168.1.46]
Aug 30 16:05:30 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGIN, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
port=[1776], protocol=IMAP
Aug 30 16:05:31 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGOUT, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
headers=0, body=3309, rcvd=624, sent=1515867, time=11, starttls=1
Aug 30 16:05:31 junkbox imapd-ssl: Unexpected SSL connection shutdown.
Aug 30 16:05:33 junkbox imapd-ssl: Connection, ip=[:::192.168.1.46]
Aug 30 16:05:33 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGIN, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
port=[1781], protocol=IMAP
Aug 30 16:05:34 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGOUT, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
headers=0, body=3269, rcvd=624, sent=1515888, time=11, starttls=1
Aug 30 16:05:34 junkbox imapd-ssl: Unexpected SSL connection shutdown.
Aug 30 16:05:35 junkbox imapd-ssl: Connection, ip=[:::192.168.1.46]
Aug 30 16:05:36 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGIN, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
port=[1783], protocol=IMAP
Aug 30 16:05:38 junkbox imapd-ssl: LOGOUT, user=tony, ip=[:::192.168.1.46], 
headers=0, body=7007, rcvd=598, sent=560200, time=8, starttls=1

Does anyone else get these?

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5.0.22.12 EStringListError

2011-08-30 Thread Rick
There are 2 logs attached. There are multiple EStringListError and a couple 
of new errors that are appearing in  the logs

I got the blank progress bar and had to kill the Bat with TM
-- 
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ÿþv5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/29/2011 
10:31:08 PM.953 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/29/2011 
10:31:09 PM.437 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/29/2011 
10:42:11 PM.484 POP:DoStoreMsg 
EDosStreamError Move the message to a 
folder - Stream write error 
C:\Documents and 
Settings\Rick\Application Data\The 
Bat!\Groups\FCLP\MESSAGES.TBB Access 
is denied

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/29/2011 
10:54:41 PM.328 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/30/2011 
9:47:53 AM.265 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/30/2011 
9:49:07 AM.562 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/30/2011 
9:49:10 AM.296 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/30/2011 
11:58:41 AM.906 jpgd:1 EAbort Operation 
aborted



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5.0.22.12 Program crashed, closed and couldn't be restarted

2011-08-30 Thread Rick
An attempt to modify the list while it is locked
IsOSException: 0

Program crashed, closed while in minimized mode. I was unable to restart it 
without rebooting

Log Attached

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Re: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-29 Thread Krzysztof Kudłacik

 The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at

I   use   TB!  with  Exchange  server  (via  IMAP)  that  has  self-signed
certificate.  Now  I  cannot  avoid  annoying  prompt  about  not  trusted
certificate  -  the  prompt  window  shows up ever time TB! connects to my
server

-- 
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RE: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-29 Thread Vilius Šumskas
  The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at
 
 I   use   TB!  with  Exchange  server  (via  IMAP)  that  has  self-signed
 certificate.  Now  I  cannot  avoid  annoying  prompt  about  not  trusted
 certificate  -  the  prompt  window  shows up ever time TB! connects to my
 server

So add it to your address book or don't use self-signed certificate.

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Re: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-29 Thread Krzysztof Kudłacik

 or don't use self-signed certificate.

:) It is rather impossible if you are employee of some corporation 

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Re: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-29 Thread Krzysztof Kudłacik

 So add it to your address book

ok, let's put it clear: previous (alpha) versions of TB! didn't cause this
alert of 'untrusted' certificate

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Re[2]: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-29 Thread Simon Martin
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.22.12


Hi Krzysztof et al.

Monday, August 29, 2011, 8:28:39 AM, Krzysztof wrote:

 So add it to your address book

 ok, let's put it clear: previous (alpha) versions of TB! didn't cause this
 alert of 'untrusted' certificate

rant
First, let me say that the reason I have stopped using The Bat! is because of all the communications problems I have, especially its' useless handling of self-signed certificates. It now has a decent implementation of IMAP, but SSL is not even half way to working as far as I am concerned. I get disconnections, reconnections, warning dialogues that disappear before I can read them, useless warnings in the logs, i.e. it's a mess. When you cannot trust your mail client to receive mails, you don't really have a mail client.

I followed all the instructions, adding certificates, CA certificate, even went as far as adding the private certificate to the address book, all to no avail. I always get the same behaviour. This is one area where work is needed to bring The Bat! up to scratch. I cannot think of any other mail client that has these problems and I have evaluated many. AFAIAC Evolution is the best ever mail client, but I have to use Windows for my customers. The second best should be The Bat!, except that the communications errors drive me mad, so I have to go for something that is far inferior to The Bat!, but I know I will receive my mails in a timely fashion.
/rant

Going back into lurk mode

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Re: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-29 Thread Krzysztof Kudłacik

 The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at

After  upgrade  of  Antispam Sniper 3.3.0.2 plugin stopped to work. Manual
adding  of path to .tbp file caused an alert plugin is damaged and cannot
be used.


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5.0.22.12 Exception Message: An attempt to modify the list while it is locked

2011-08-28 Thread Rick
This not only hung the program, but I could not start it. I finally started it 
from a command line, shut it down normally and was again able to start from my 
shortcut


Date: 28 Aug 2011 14:27:38
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 1424/2039 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1954/2047 MB
Address: 00C7A3B6
ClassName: Exception
Message: An attempt to modify the list while it is locked
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20110825204450 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 00C7A3B6 [0040]
 00C7A3B1 [0040]
 00469554 [0040]
 00C7A057 [0040]
 00C78EEC [0040]
 00C78A46 [0040]
 00C78C25 [0040]
 00C78181 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 00403065 [0040]
 004062DA [0040]
 00474442 [0040]
 00405ADC [0040]



Date: 28 Aug 2011 14:30:02
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 1387/2039 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1952/2047 MB
Address: 00C7A3B6
ClassName: Exception
Message: An attempt to modify the list while it is locked
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20110825204450 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 00C7A3B6 [0040]
 00C7A3B1 [0040]
 00469554 [0040]
 00C7A057 [0040]
 00C78EEC [0040]
 00C78A46 [0040]
 00C78C25 [0040]
 00C78181 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 00403065 [0040]
 004062DA [0040]
 00474442 [0040]
 00405ADC [0040]



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The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean 
advantage of them.
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Re: 5.0.22.12 Exception Message: An attempt to modify the list while it is locked

2011-08-28 Thread Rick
 This not only hung the program, but I could not start it. I finally
 started it from a command line, shut it down normally and was again able to 
 start from my shortcut

 
 Date: 28 Aug 2011 14:27:38
 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
 PhysMemFreeTotal: 1424/2039 MB
 VirtMemFreeTotal: 1954/2047 MB
 Address: 00C7A3B6
 ClassName: Exception
 Message: An attempt to modify the list while it is locked

I also found this in the other log. I had briefly switched back to 11 to see if 
that was the problem. I clean my temp files at boot up and was coming back 
after a power outage. I think the Bat should have been able to recreate that 
file instead of hanging up.

v5.0.22.11 (ALPHA) HOME/Rick 8/28/2011 2:32:26 PM.437 Language:File does not 
exist (C:\DOCUME~1\Rick\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX53.768\thebat.LNG)



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Re: 5.0.22.12 - EImapUnexpectedSocketClosedNoError

2011-08-27 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Maxim,

 The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb502212.rar

v5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) SILVER/Tony 27/08/2011 15:31:54.312 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketClosedNoError Connection unexpectedly closed

Still getting dozens of these per day. Could we please have more debug
info so we can get to the bottom of this? I have a number if IMAP
accounts with different servers and it would be useful to identify
which connection has closed.

I also suspect this is causing some of the filtering problems when
messages are not moved to a different IMAP folder.

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Re: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-26 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Maxim,

Friday, August 26, 2011, 4:55:29 AM, you wrote:

 What's new in 5.0.22.12 since 5.0.22.11:
 [-] Previous alpha didn't display border of IMAP tasks list in the connection 
 (BETA issue)
 [-] Message memo cannot be changed from plugin
 [*] Plugin API: Added flags to distinguish auto/manual/hot-key invocation of 
 filters
 [+] Options for Automatic update IMAP folder subscription at startup
 [*] IMAP Folders with \NoSelect flags are handled more correctly

How about the registry option for the datetime language which you've mentioned
in previous messages.

-- 
Best regards,
 Miles Changmailto:drift...@gmx.com
Translator of Chinese The Bat!  AntispamSniper
Agent: The Bat! v5.0.22.11 (ALPHA)
Plugins: AntispamSniper v3.2.6.4  MyMacros 1.11a
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5.0.22.12

2011-08-25 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb502212.rar

What's new in 5.0.22.12 since 5.0.22.11:
[-] Previous alpha didn't display border of IMAP tasks list in the connection 
(BETA issue)
[-] Message memo cannot be changed from plugin
[*] Plugin API: Added flags to distinguish auto/manual/hot-key invocation of 
filters
[+] Options for Automatic update IMAP folder subscription at startup
[*] IMAP Folders with \NoSelect flags are handled more correctly





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Re: 5.0.22.12

2011-08-25 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim,

Thursday, August 25, 2011, 2:55:29 PM, you wrote:

MM The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb502212.rar

MM What's new in 5.0.22.12 since 5.0.22.11:
MM [-] Previous alpha didn't display border of IMAP tasks list in the 
connection (BETA issue)
MM [-] Message memo cannot be changed from plugin
MM [*] Plugin API: Added flags to distinguish auto/manual/hot-key invocation 
of filters
MM [+] Options for Automatic update IMAP folder subscription at startup
MM [*] IMAP Folders with \NoSelect flags are handled more correctly

Up  and  running  fine.   No  time  to  investigate  all of the above,
however.
-- 

Take Care,

 Bob   

-- 

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us.   Someday,  we'll all realize that this is true for every last one of
us.

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