Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Maxim,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 2:40:45 PM, among other things, you wrote:

MM What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:

MM [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using
MM Windows API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in 
the Control Panel.

To amplify on my earlier message.

Versions  4.2.44.2 and 5.0.22.3 and Windows7 all display 24hr times, and the
TB  versions  display the day and time for the current week, and display the
time only for the current day, all 24hr.  Version 5.0.22.4 displays the full
12hr date and time for all messages.


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 Roger 

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 at 09:07:37 +0200, Roger wrote:
 Versions  4.2.44.2 and 5.0.22.3 and Windows7 all display 24hr times, and the
 TB  versions  display the day and time for the current week, and display the
 time only for the current day, all 24hr.  Version 5.0.22.4 displays the full
 12hr date and time for all messages.

Not sure if this will resolve your problem, but I had that when I
installed v4.2 on Win 7 for the first time. Roelof solved the problem
for we with this suggestion

 You can set the time date/format with something:  d mmm ,t
 That way you should get the default time format, when you set the time
 like  hh:nn then you can force am/pm by adding the ampm parameter like
 this:   hh:nn   ampm,  that implies that only hh:nn would give you the
 24 hour format. The ampm  parameter won't work with the t an tt settings

I have hh:nn set on my version of TB and it forces 24 hr format.
-- 
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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Robin,

Sunday, August 7, 2011, 10:14:16 AM, among other things, you wrote:

RA On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 at 09:07:37 +0200, Roger wrote:
 Versions  4.2.44.2 and 5.0.22.3 and Windows7 all display 24hr times, and the
 TB  versions  display the day and time for the current week, and display the
 time only for the current day, all 24hr.  Version 5.0.22.4 displays the full
 12hr date and time for all messages.

RA Not sure if this will resolve your problem, but I had that when I
RA installed v4.2 on Win 7 for the first time. Roelof solved the problem
RA for we with this suggestion

 You can set the time date/format with something:  d mmm ,t
 That way you should get the default time format, when you set the time
 like  hh:nn then you can force am/pm by adding the ampm parameter like
 this:   hh:nn   ampm,  that implies that only hh:nn would give you the
 24 hour format. The ampm  parameter won't work with the t an tt settings

RA I have hh:nn set on my version of TB and it forces 24 hr format.
Thanks for responding.

I  have  used a 24hr system successfully for years in Windows and TB.  I was
just  trying  to  indicate  to  Maxim  that whatever they have introduced in
version 5.0.22.4 is not working as expected.

I've  tried  using your suggestion received from Roelof but it does not work
in 5.0.22.4.  However I have got it now it showing the different formats for
messages  received today, and for this week, but all with 12hr clock with AM
or PM.


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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Roger,

Sunday, August 7, 2011, 1:18:58 PM, you wrote:


 I  have  used a 24hr system successfully for years in Windows and TB.  I was
 just  trying  to  indicate  to  Maxim  that whatever they have introduced in
 version 5.0.22.4 is not working as expected.

I  see  that  already,  I  will make more changes to the code to resolve this
isseu.

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Maxim,

 The Bat! 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

 [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using
 Windows API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in 
 the Control Panel.

No   matter  which  option was chosen in Time Window despite of having
TB!  set  to  Polish  (I  did set all Windows local settings to Polish
(time  set to 24h type)) 5.0.22.4 always had started in English (there
was no Language selection as well).

Allowing  usage  of time format as well even in English settings would
be recommended. Didn't manage to have 24 hours format no matter what I
tried :)

However,  generally approach IMO is positive - thank you for your work
:)

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Saturday, August 6, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Hello Tbbeta,

 The Bat! 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

 What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:
 [-] LibrariesEntryPoints must be initialized BEFORE loading plug-ins
 [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using Windows
 API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in the 
 Control Panel.

why is this setting thebat-selected-language-depended?? I have Czech
language selected in Windows regional setting, but when is English
interface in The Bat!, message list displays default english setting.

-- 

Bye

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Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-07 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Marek,

 The Bat! 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

 What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:
 [-] LibrariesEntryPoints must be initialized BEFORE loading plug-ins
 [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using Windows
 API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in the 
 Control Panel.

 why is this setting thebat-selected-language-depended?? I have Czech
 language selected in Windows regional setting, but when is English
 interface in The Bat!, message list displays default english setting.

I think it's 5.0.22.4 Alpha issue.

I did tried to switch languages in TB! installed on HDD and in Windows
settings but after running Alpha version there is only English version
on my machine (nevertheless what settings are used in TB! or in OS).

Approach is good, just needs some more tweaking :)

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The Bat! 4.2.44.2
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5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

The Bat! 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:
[-] LibrariesEntryPoints must be initialized BEFORE loading plug-ins
[-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using Windows API. 
You can configure different formats in the Regional options in the Control 
Panel.


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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Ethan J Mings
Hello Maxim,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 8:40:45 AM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

 What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:
 [-] LibrariesEntryPoints must be initialized BEFORE loading plug-ins
 [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using
 Windows API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in 
 the Control Panel.

Loaded with no problems.

Like the regional time settings.  Much easier to work with as a user.

Jerry
-- 
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President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc
Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7
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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 3:40:45 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Tbbeta,

 The Bat! 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

 What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:
 [-] LibrariesEntryPoints must be initialized BEFORE loading plug-ins
 [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using
 Windows API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in 
 the Control Panel.

The  dates  for  English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are
shown in English format now :(

-- 
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 Vilius



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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Vilius!

On Saturday, August 6, 2011 at 3:23:36 PM you wrote:

 The  dates  for  English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are
 shown in English format now :(

If are running W7* that's a problem of the OS; I experience the same
with German UI for Windows [TB runs in English]. I have the same
problem with several programs.


*Might even be confined to 64-bit with 32-bit programs.



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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 4:50:23 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Vilius!

 On Saturday, August 6, 2011 at 3:23:36 PM you wrote:

 The  dates  for  English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are
 shown in English format now :(

 If are running W7* that's a problem of the OS; I experience the same
 with German UI for Windows [TB runs in English]. I have the same
 problem with several programs.


 *Might even be confined to 64-bit with 32-bit programs.

Yes, it is Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

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Re[2]: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Marcus Jaeger

Saturday, 6 August 2011, 15:59:12, you wrote:


 The  dates  for  English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are
 shown in English format now :(

 If are running W7* that's a problem of the OS; I experience the same
 with German UI for Windows [TB runs in English]. I have the same
 problem with several programs.


 *Might even be confined to 64-bit with 32-bit programs.

 Yes, it is Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

Similar issue here with Windows 7 Pro 64bit. I see AM/PM now, but that is not 
configured in my Regional Settings. I configured 24h times.


-- 
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Using TheBat!  5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) on Windows 7  Pro


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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Maxim,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 2:40:45 PM, among other things, you wrote:

MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50224.rar

MM What's new in 5.0.22.4 since 5.0.22.3:
MM [-] The Bat! now formats date and time in the message list using
MM Windows API. You can configure different formats in the Regional options in 
the Control Panel.

How can one get it to display 24hr times, not AM or PM?



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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Roger!

On Saturday, August 6, 2011 at 4:40:15 PM you wrote:

 How can one get it to display 24hr times, not AM or PM?

From my experiences with, for instance, Paradox and a few others we
need to wait for Microsoft to address this. Unless they already have
two different ways to access their date-time API.



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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Vilius,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 4:23:36 PM, you wrote:


 The  dates  for  English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are
 shown in English format now :(

These dates are shown in The Bat!'s interface language.

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Roger,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 5:40:15 PM, you wrote:

 How can one get it to display 24hr times, not AM or PM?

You  can  go  to  Windows  Regional  settings and configure to use 24hr times
there, and this setting will be used in The Bat! Is that OK?

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:55:02 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Vilius,

 Saturday, August 6, 2011, 4:23:36 PM, you wrote:


 The  dates  for  English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are
 shown in English format now :(

 These dates are shown in The Bat!'s interface language.

I  mean  the  format,  not  the language. The dates are formatted like
M/D/Y  and time is in 12hours format. Then my windows has Y/M/Y and 24
hours configured.

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Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)

2011-08-06 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Maxim,

Saturday, August 6, 2011, 9:57:21 PM, among other things, you wrote:

MM Hello Roger,

MM Saturday, August 6, 2011, 5:40:15 PM, you wrote:

 How can one get it to display 24hr times, not AM or PM?

MM You  can  go  to  Windows  Regional  settings and configure to use 24hr 
times
MM there, and this setting will be used in The Bat! Is that OK?

My Windows setting displays 24hr times, TB is displaying 12hr with AM, PM.


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 Roger 

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