Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Luca via TBBETA]

Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA:

> We're still deciding on the improvements we'll be working on the new Beta 
> cycle, but here is what we are looking on:
> 
> - replace HTML editor 

Any chance to replace the /text/ editor, or at least fix the Undo/Redo
mulfunctioning? I think it's not acceptable to have an editor without a
reliable Undo function and no Redo at all. It's lacking of basic features.
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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI - Replying to complexish HTML mails takes long to initialize, blocking whole program

[Viktor Kabelac]

Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 5:58:44 PM, you wrote:

> Dear All,
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi
Runs nicely, the keyboard shortcuts seem to work again in HTML message 
viewer.

What hasn't changed from betas - when trying to reply to certain HTML 
E-Mails (like German MediaMarkt or 1&1, I can provide samples if it 
helps), it takes long tens of seconds to initialize the reply window, 
during which time TheBat mostly doesn't respond. Strangely, other - 
optically similarly long - HTML newsletters like XING are there much 
faster (still, blocking in the process).

Apart from the justified question "who the hell would feel the urge to 
reply to newsletters?", I suppose someone may be getting legit HTML mails where 
replying makes sense and possibly that can be optimized? :)

Thank you!


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 14:36:48 +0100 GMT (04-Jul-20, 20:36 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

> On Saturday 4 July 2020 at 12:35:45 PM, in
> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


 I see. This means that the configuration I have
 now will persist. It
 will not go back to factory default, right?

> My menu customisations from before were gone on upgrading. I re-did
> them but the next time I started TB! they were gone again.

@Stefan: This is a show-stopper for me. I am not installing the new
release on this work machine. I don't think the version should have
been released with this bug.

What is the bug report number?

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[rolandtelle]

samedi 4 juillet 2020,
Bonsoir,

Le samedi 4 juillet 2020 à 13:35:45, thomas.gmane@... a écrit :

> Did  you  customise  the  toolbar  before  the  upgrade,  and it now
> reverted  to  the  default? Or did you never customise it, so it was
> the default before upgrading?

Yes.
1. I install a new thebat_64_9-1-18,
2.  then  customise  the  standard toolbar adding a button for which I
chose a room; closing then re-starting TheBat! is ok,
3. then upgrade to thebat_64_9-2-1.msi,
4.  the  standard  toolbar  came  back to the default one, loosing the
button,
5.  if  I repeat 2., save, close then re-start TheBat!, the new button
is still in the toolbar but at the end - always.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 4 July 2020 at 12:35:45 PM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>>> I see. This means that the configuration I have
>>> now will persist. It
>>> will not go back to factory default, right?

My menu customisations from before were gone on upgrading. I re-did 
them but the next time I started TB! they were gone again.



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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in
, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:-


> Dear All,

> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - 


> - make fixes for GnuPG interaction

Yay!


> - add dark theme support

I set mine up like the attached screenshot years ago using colour
groups and viewer/editor settings. It would be good to have the menus
and headers and the attachments pane darker.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Thomas, 

>> Then if you try to customise, the new toolbar will be saved but if you
>> stop  than  re-start  TheBat!,  your  customisation is not the same as
>> before: not the default one, but not the customised one...

> @Stefan: I think you fix this bug. It's too unnevering. Thanks.

Yeah, we are going to fix it asap. I guess the problem was introduced when we 
were switching back from DevExpress controls...


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Rolandtelle,

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 11:50:28 +0200 GMT (04-Jul-20, 16:50 +0700 GMT),
rolandte...@free.fr wrote:

> samedi 4 juillet 2020,
> Bonjour,

> Le samedi 4 juillet 2020 à 10:55:59, thomas.gmane@... a écrit :

>> I see. This means that the configuration I have now will persist. It
>> will not go back to factory default, right?

> I  just  upgraded from thebat_64_9-1-18 to thebat_64_9-2-1.msi and the
> toolbar is the default one.

Did you customise the toolbar before the upgrade, and it now reverted
to the default? Or did you never customise it, so it was the default
before upgrading?

> Then if you try to customise, the new toolbar will be saved but if you
> stop  than  re-start  TheBat!,  your  customisation is not the same as
> before: not the default one, but not the customised one...

@Stefan: I think you fix this bug. It's too unnevering. Thanks.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in
, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:-


> Dear All,

> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - 

Just tried to use "menu navigator" in a "separate message
viewer" folder window but the menu navigator window does not appear. 
(Works fine in the main window, message editor window, and message 
finder window.)


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[rolandtelle]

samedi 4 juillet 2020,
Bonjour,

Le samedi 4 juillet 2020 à 10:55:59, thomas.gmane@... a écrit :

> I see. This means that the configuration I have now will persist. It
> will not go back to factory default, right?

I  just  upgraded from thebat_64_9-1-18 to thebat_64_9-2-1.msi and the
toolbar is the default one.
Then if you try to customise, the new toolbar will be saved but if you
stop  than  re-start  TheBat!,  your  customisation is not the same as
before: not the default one, but not the customised one...

Regards
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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[rolandtelle]

samedi 4 juillet 2020,
Bonjour,

Le samedi 4 juillet 2020 à 10:55:59, thomas.gmane@... a écrit :

> This means that the configuration I have now will persist.

Not sure at all after upgrading!!

thebat_64_9-1-18.msi is 41 mo
thebat_64_9-2-1.msi is 111 mo
which means that many things can happen! :-)
and reverse to the previous stable seems to be difficult.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Rolandtelle,

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 03:56:31 +0200 GMT (04-Jul-20, 08:56 +0700 GMT),
rolandte...@free.fr wrote:

> samedi 4 juillet 2020,
> Bonjour,

> Le samedi 4 juillet 2020 à 03:23:24, thomas.gmane@... a écrit :

>>> My toolbar customisations are lost when I close and re-start TB!

>> Is this confirmed by others?

> Yes, confirmed. Exactly like in
> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1991
> Customisation   is   saved   in   tbuser.DEF  but  when  we close then
> re-start   TheBat!,   tbuser.DEF  has  not  changed  but  the  toolbar
> customisation is lost.

I see. This means that the configuration I have now will persist. It
will not go back to factory default, right?

If so, I can safely download this msi to my work machine.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Gwen]

Hello Stefan,

BUG:
In editor window with German UI and selected Spellcheck Hunspell 
"Deutsch (Neue deustche Rechtschreibung)" in "Wörterbuch bearbeiten" 
popup the buttons cover text which describes the selected dictionary.  
That is a problem as The popup is not resizable.

See https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2047


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[rolandtelle]

samedi 4 juillet 2020,
Bonjour,

Le samedi 4 juillet 2020 à 03:23:24, thomas.gmane@... a écrit :

>> My toolbar customisations are lost when I close and re-start TB!

> Is this confirmed by others?

Yes, confirmed. Exactly like in
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1991
Customisation   is   saved   in   tbuser.DEF  but  when  we close then
re-start   TheBat!,   tbuser.DEF  has  not  changed  but  the  toolbar
customisation is lost.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:18:21 +0100 GMT (03-Jul-20, 18:18 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

> Hi


> On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in
> , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:-


>> Dear All,

>> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release -

> My toolbar customisations are lost when I close and re-start TB!

Is this confirmed by others? I am currently on my production machine
and cannot test betas, and this would be a show-stopper for me. I
cannot lose my toolbar customisations on the production machine.

I'd like to upgrade this machine because of the much better HTML
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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in
, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:-


> Dear All,

> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - 

I just noticed that when I click the button to download external
content for an HTML message, the view of the message reverts to the
text tab. To see the message with the downloaded external content, I
have to click on the HTML tab again.

(That's with Download external media set to Manually, plus View HTML 
messages using: Plain Text version and HTML.)

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Andrew Savchenko]

Hello Stefan,

Thursday, July 2, 2020, 1:28:44 AM, you wrote:

> - make fixes for GnuPG interaction

Yesss...

> - improve Virtual Folders so it'll be use folder grouping (like all Inboxes, 
> all of a color, regexp)

Mmm... Okay.

> - add some interesting functionality to the preview pane

Sneak peek?

> - improve address book UI/UX

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in
, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:-


> Dear All,

> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - 

My toolbar customisations are lost when I close and re-start TB!

The space below the toolbars that appears on returning the main window 
from minimised goes away on toggling the "show button captions" checkbox.


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Richard Newman]

Hello Stefan,

STvT> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release -
STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi

 U  Seems to load much faster .  .  . at least for the first
 time.
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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Sergey Chubchenko]

Hi Stefan,

Thank you for release!

ST> I could forget to name some other points of interest,  so please
ST> feel free to add anything to this list :-)

May be opening msg/eml attachments from messages, created in Outlook? :)) But 
it very hard to support without Outlook ActiveX, because this is not a plain 
text msg/eml, but FS OLE container, like doc/xls files.
Some people attach other messages via outlook, but attach not contain text 
msg/eml, but FS OLE containers.


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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Paul Van Noord]

7/1/2020  3:23 PM

Hi Stefan,

On 7/1/2020 you wrote:

STvT> Dear All,

STvT> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - 

STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi
STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi

STvT> With these MSIs, we've solved the problem with TheBat.lng getting
STvT> deleted on upgrading from the previous release and the startup
STvT> screen mess is reduced should be reduced a bit.


STvT> Thank you very much for your great help with releasing of this version!

STvT> We're still deciding on the improvements we'll be working on the
STvT> new Beta cycle, but here is what we are looking on:

STvT> - replace HTML editor 
STvT> - make fixes for GnuPG interaction
STvT> - add support for Outlook.com and Yahoo OAUTH
STvT> - add dark theme support
STvT> - improve Virtual Folders so it'll be use folder grouping (like
STvT> all Inboxes, all of a color, regexp)
STvT> - add some interesting functionality to the preview pane
STvT> - improve address book UI/UX

STvT> I could forget to name some other points of interest,  so please
STvT> feel free to add anything to this list :-)

U & R  FAST install!! Thank You Very Much!

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI - issue on top

[Martin]

Hi lis

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:58:44 PM you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi

Up and running - thank you.

Issue with empty space below the menu bar when coming from minimized
window is getting larger now - little bit annoying.

See picture.

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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Sergio, 

> Thanks for the good start in TheBat! new release! Looks very promising.

Great to hear this!

> Is it possible to add unread messages count to TB tray icon instead of flying 
> bat?

Yes, definitely. We're actually discussing this feature already  :-)



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Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI

[Sergio Barbery]

Hi!

Thanks for the good start in TheBat! new release! Looks very promising.

Is it possible to add unread messages count to TB tray icon instead of
flying bat?

ср, 1 июл. 2020 г., 21:59 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA <
tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com>:

> Dear All,
>
> Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release -
>
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi
>
> With these MSIs, we've solved the problem with TheBat.lng getting deleted
> on upgrading from the previous release and the startup screen mess is
> reduced should be reduced a bit.
>
>
> Thank you very much for your great help with releasing of this version!
>
> We're still deciding on the improvements we'll be working on the new Beta
> cycle, but here is what we are looking on:
>
> - replace HTML editor
> - make fixes for GnuPG interaction
> - add support for Outlook.com and Yahoo OAUTH
> - add dark theme support
> - improve Virtual Folders so it'll be use folder grouping (like all
> Inboxes, all of a color, regexp)
> - add some interesting functionality to the preview pane
> - improve address book UI/UX
>
> I could forget to name some other points of interest,  so please feel free
> to add anything to this list :-)
>
>
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>
>
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