Re: Gmail SMTP
Hello Jay, >> Which was the sorce of the problem? > It was related to the email address. TB's OAUTH does not seem to > work with Gmail if "@gmail.com" is omitted (though that worked fine > before). So, for example, if the email address is x...@gmail.com, it > was sufficient to log in as user:"xyz". But with TB's OAUTH, now it > seems one must log in as user: "x...@gmail.com". That's right. I should have remembered. > As I prefer not to set a default mailto address, I always get a > list of possible accounts to use (which is most convenient for me). > Long ago that list of accounts mirrored the order in my account tree > (which was fine), but now it is not in that order (for reasons I > don't know). In any event, it is the list of accounts in the "Select > the Account" dialog box that I want to re-order. But I find no way to do that. Right. I can't find any way to do it either. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19044 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hi Miguel On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:13 PM MAU wrote: Which was the sorce of the problem? > It was related to the email address. TB's OAUTH does not seem to work with Gmail if "@gmail.com" is omitted (though that worked fine before). So, for example, if the email address is x...@gmail.com, it was sufficient to log in as user:"xyz". But with TB's OAUTH, now it seems one must log in as user: " x...@gmail.com". > I would really like to be able to re-order that list, because the accounts > I generally use for that purpose are now located toward the end of the list > rather than the top of it. > > On the account/folder tree, Alt+click on the account you wish to move up > or down, and drag it to the desired position. To make it easier, collapse > all accounts first, so you don't have to navigate through all folders of > any account. > > Anyway, when I click on a file and select Send to: The Bat!, I don't get a > list of accounts, the message editor just opens and the account defaults > to whichever account is marked as "This accounts is the default for > "mailto" URLs" in Account/Properties/General. I do get a list of accounts > if none is marked this way. > As I prefer not to set a default mailto address, I always get a list of possible accounts to use (which is most convenient for me). Long ago that list of accounts mirrored the order in my account tree (which was fine), but now it is not in that order (for reasons I don't know). In any event, it is the list of accounts in the "Select the Account" dialog box that I want to re-order. But I find no way to do that. - jaywalker Windows 10 Pro The Bat! Pro 9.5.1 (64-bit) OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hello Jay, > And, yes, everything is sorted out now that I discovered and > corrected the somewhat simple but unexpected source of the problem. Which was the sorce of the problem? > I would really like to be able to re-order that list, because the > accounts I generally use for that purpose are now located toward the > end of the list rather than the top of it. On the account/folder tree, Alt+click on the account you wish to move up or down, and drag it to the desired position. To make it easier, collapse all accounts first, so you don't have to navigate through all folders of any account. Anyway, when I click on a file and select Send to: The Bat!, I don't get a list of accounts, the message editor just opens and the account defaults to whichever account is marked as "This accounts is the default for "mailto" URLs" in Account/Properties/General. I do get a list of accounts if none is marked this way. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19044 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hello Thomas, > We care. At least, I do. However, I could not replicate your > problem, I have mo problem using Gmail. Same here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19044 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hi all, On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 4:22 AM Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > We care. At least, I do. However, I could not replicate your problem, I > have mo problem using Gmail. Let's hope it stays that way after 30 May. > Thanks, Thomas. This was the second time I asked what for me was an interesting question and received no reply here. And, yes, everything is sorted out now that I discovered and corrected the somewhat simple but unexpected source of the problem. I anticipate that TB will now continue to work with Gmail for me even after May 30. But the other problem remains... has never been sorted out. This has to do with the list of accounts (I have many) that comes up when right-clicking a file and using Send to: The Bat!. I would really like to be able to re-order that list, because the accounts I generally use for that purpose are now located toward the end of the list rather than the top of it. But perhaps I am alone in having this problem or wish. -- jaywalker Windows 10 Pro The Bat! Pro 9.5.1 (64-bit) OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hello Jay, On Mon, 9 May 2022 15:09:47 +0300 GMT (09/05/2022, 19:09 +0700 GMT), Jay Walker wrote: > Hi all > On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jay Walker wrote: >> Hi all, >> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:34 PM Jay Walker wrote: >>> Until now I've used Gmail with "less secure apps", and that worked fine for >>> me. Now, under the gun so to speak, I have disabled "less secure apps" and >>> set up OAUTH authentication. And this works fine for me when checking my >>> mail (POP3). >> Correction. The POP3 only seems to work. But even that does not work, >> because no messages are ever retrieved. > Problem solved. Forget I asked... not that anyone seemed to care. :) We care. At least, I do. However, I could not replicate your problem, I have mo problem using Gmail. Let's hope it stays that way after 30 May. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hi all On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jay Walker wrote: > Hi all, > > On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:34 PM Jay Walker > wrote: > >> Until now I've used Gmail with "less secure apps", and that worked fine >> for me. Now, under the gun so to speak, I have disabled "less secure apps" >> and set up OAUTH authentication. And this works fine for me when checking >> my mail (POP3). >> > > Correction. The POP3 only seems to work. But even that does not work, > because no messages are ever retrieved. > Problem solved. Forget I asked... not that anyone seemed to care. :) -- jaywalker Windows 10 Pro The Bat! Pro 9.5.1 (64-bit) OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hi all, On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:34 PM Jay Walker wrote: > Until now I've used Gmail with "less secure apps", and that worked fine > for me. Now, under the gun so to speak, I have disabled "less secure apps" > and set up OAUTH authentication. And this works fine for me when checking > my mail (POP3). > Correction. The POP3 only seems to work. But even that does not work, because no messages are ever retrieved. -- jaywalker Windows 10 Pro The Bat! Pro 9.5.1 (64-bit) OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail Sending
Hello Ethan, > Is anyone having trouble with sending messages through Gmail? yes, I got an error message. In my case a setting was deactivated although I had activated it. Less secure apps & your Google Account https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en -- Best wishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://thebat.bplaced.net 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:32:50 AM, you wrote: SC>> What does OAUTH require you to do. Do you have to login with your browser? > Please see https://www.ritlabs.com/en/news/6777/ > After you switch over to OAUTH you will have to sign in within a pop-up window > and allow The Bat! to access your Google account for sending/receiving mail > and > synchronizing contacts. I can confirm the above information. I had to swtich to OAUTH. It works well when I am on the road. Give it a try. The set up only has to be done once. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:supp...@thedesk.ca Current beta is 8.3.0.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
Title: Re: Gmail Hello Gleason, Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 8:09:34 AM, you wrote: Fastmail has no such troubles. Yes, I love Fastmail. It seems to be the best behaved account I have. Unfortunately I still need gmail. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 8.3.0.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 8:09:33 AM, you wrote: > Did you try disabling the option to allow less secure apps in Google's > settings > and use OAUTH authentication in The Bat!? What does OAUTH require you to do. Do you have to login with your browser? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 8.3.0.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
Stuart, > Hello Gwen, > Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 7:52:17 AM, you wrote: >> See https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 > Yes, this is what I thought. So do you just allow access as a Less Secure App > to > access gmail or just not use gmail? Should there be a fix to The Bat or am I > doing something wrong? > Further to my original info, although I seem to be able to receive mail and > can > no longer send mail. Fastmail has no such troubles. -- Gleason Current beta is 8.3.0.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
Hello Gwen, Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 7:52:17 AM, you wrote: > See https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 Yes, this is what I thought. So do you just allow access as a Less Secure App to access gmail or just not use gmail? Should there be a fix to The Bat or am I doing something wrong? Further to my original info, although I seem to be able to receive mail and can no longer send mail. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 8.3.0.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
Hello STuart, On Tue, 5 Jun 2018, at 07:47:27 [GMT -0500] (which was 14:47 where I live) Stuart wrote: > I received a message from google that a "Less Secure App" was accessing my > account and that I should disable the ability of less secure apps from > accessing > my account. I turned off access to less secure apps and then received a > message > saying that a program tried to access my account. I assume that less secure > app > is The Bat. I now see in my logs: > 6/5/2018, 07:44:04: IMAP - Server reports error. The response is: > NO WEBALERT > https://accounts.google.com/signin/continue?sarp=1=1=AKgnsbtRcHqyZXoO4f-v9Q8fDhUMmWAJgayRn5F0BWJ3oTinDlgnhDZnU8SotxfwFunyXLnYr29WJvxXXL7SypiedKTeXiVbV4-c_RXBOD2GHhhb9hJPons9BkVoIrJxZEBv8VY9-zcDVVF2l6-NqVbKI7MsSTSczO8UIW6RP7oBdZWas2vRo_EnVdaPo470k1fY_5J6sWQXxn4Az5sSNv79v7i0tU-HmfoZmg4egfHMG-KFTRD0apU > Web login required. > !6/5/2018, 07:44:04: IMAP - Please log in via your web browser: > https://support.google.com/mail/accounts/answer/78754 (Failure) See https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 8.3.0.24 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 17134 ) pgpAI_R9NHs_1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.3.0.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMail issue
Hello Cees, On Sat, 2 Jun 2018, at 11:24:16 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:24 where I live) Cees wrote: > don't get any GMail e-mails anymore. > This is the error I get: > >>2-6-2018, 11:20:17: IMAP - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google LLC, imap.gmail.com. >>2-6-2018, 11:20:17: IMAP - Issuer: US, California, Mountain View, Google >>LLC, imap.gmail.com. > !2-6-2018, 11:20:17: IMAP - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server > certificate. The certificate or one of the certificates in the > certificate chain does not have a valid signature.. The certificate > or certificate chain is based on an untrusted root. > 2-6-2018, 11:20:37: IMAP - Connecting to IMAP server imap.gmail.com on port > 993 > 2-6-2018, 11:20:38: IMAP - Initiating TLS handshake >>2-6-2018, 11:20:38: IMAP - Certificate S/N: 5446E3, algorithm: RSA (512 >>bits), issued from 5/29/2018 3:24:03 PM to 5/24/2038 3:24:03 PM, for 1 >>host(s): imap.gmail.com. >>2-6-2018, 11:20:38: IMAP - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google LLC, >>imap.gmail.com. >>2-6-2018, 11:20:38: IMAP - Issuer: US, California, Mountain View, Google >>LLC, imap.gmail.com. > !2-6-2018, 11:20:38: IMAP - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server Please check your antivirus software or The Bat! spamfilter plugin which scans SSL and lowers certificate security. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 8.3.0.20 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 17134 ) pgpJcVfLkIy1l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.3.0.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of All Mail folder
Hallo Rick, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:45 -0500GMT (23-12-2012, 16:32 , where I live), you wrote: RG Each time I delete a message from All Mail GMail IMAP folder, it keeps undeleting itself. Cannot reproduce that. I deleted some mails, opened my gmail account in my browser and they were missing there too. In case of problems with an imap account: Close TB Open your mail directory with the explorrer, locate the directory matching with your imap account, in that directory you'll find a directory called imap. Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. -- Groetjes, Roelof and also see how to really tick off a moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of All Mail folder
Each time I delete a message from All Mail GMail IMAP folder, it keeps undeleting itself. To reproduce the bug: 1. go to GMail - All Mail 2. delete a message 3. wait a few seconds 4. press ESC a few times - the delete message show up https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=141 Why press ESC? This may be a cancel command. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of All Mail folder
Hello Rick, A reminder of what Rick typed on: Sunday, December 23, 2012 at 10:32:45 GMT -0500 R Each time I delete a message from All Mail GMail IMAP folder, it keeps undeleting itself. I'm not sure, but is this not WAD. I thought the All Mail folder was a virtual folder that just displays what is in other directories (in a gmail kind of way). If you delete original mail does it go away? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v5.3.4 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of All Mail folder
I'm not sure, but is this not WAD. I thought the All Mail folder was a virtual folder that just displays what is in other directories (in a gmail kind of way). If you delete original mail does it go away? No - and it is only the ALL MAIL folder. SPAM and TRASH delete and compress correctly. I have removed the cache files etc and the folder is not cleaned out on the website -- Rick Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt v5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of All Mail folder
Why press ESC? This may be a cancel command. Whatever way you do it (CONTROL R) it does not work -- Rick Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt v5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMail .. can't recieve
greg Thanks man .. it was the port that was throwing me off. I had gone to gmail page but didn't see that. must have just missed it. not sure why the backup/restore did not get that info .. seems like a hole but thanks a lot .. igbar _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Current beta is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hi Vili, Monday, February 6, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : I sent a mail this morning to the list concerning an SMTP auth bug. Anyone with GMail account can test it. Noone could test it? I would rather put this in the BT system with a confirmation... I can confirm the things you described, if I do the same, I can send/ not send exactly as you predicted. I don't know if that's a bug or not, anyway: if you consider writing a note on BT, I will add my observation. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Recently, Vili squawked: Hello tbbeta, I sent a mail this morning to the list concerning an SMTP auth bug. Anyone with GMail account can test it. Noone could test it? I would rather put this in the BT system with a confirmation... confirmed ... and going back and unchecking it then back to user-specific and I can send OK again. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hi Vili, Monday, February 6, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : May I ask you to send my original mail to me in private? Done. :) I redirected both mails to the address in your last posting: Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hi Vili, Monday, February 6, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : So, please support/confirm it: Done, since I have the same effect here. Even if I really don't change those kind of settings very often, it may be good for someone. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail, The Bat!, Win98SE
Hello Easymail, I wrote: I moved (copied my Program files/The Bat! - where I store everything-, and my RIT key from the reg.) my TB! from WinXP to Win98SE. Everything seems to work, but my GMail account. It says, that 2005.09.10., 15:35:40: FETCH - Couldn't connect to 64.233.163.109 trying subsequent addresses... 2005.09.10., 15:35:40: FETCH - Connecting to 64.233.163.111... !2005.09.10., 15:35:55: FETCH - Could not connect to the server 2005.09.10., 15:37:18: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue 2005.09.10., 15:38:03: SEND - Couldn't connect to 64.233.163.109 trying subsequent addresses... 2005.09.10., 15:38:03: SEND - Connecting to 64.233.163.111... !2005.09.10., 15:38:18: SEND - Could not connect to the server It worked with XP... Any idea? Same settings... (SMTP: smtp.gmail.com, STARTTLS, port 587, POP3: pop.gmail.com, TLS, port 995) It was my firewall settings on my Win98SE, now it works fine. My fault. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.02 beta on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Dear Tony, -- Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005, 20:46:15: Can you connect to the main site or is it just that you can't login? I can log in but then I get a blank page with nothing at all loaded and in the status bar at the bottom it says something like Error on Page. In your msg mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on June 23. you say that you stopped using gMail long time ago. I'm not sure, but wasn't there an update. And as you didn't us your account for 'decades' probably you need to reactivate it or something like that. Or perhaps it went corrupt after an update. In this case I would contact the gMail Help desk. -- best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
--On Friday, June 24, 2005 6:06 pm +0200 Eddie Castelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In your msg mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on June 23. you say that you stopped using gMail long time ago. I'm not sure, but wasn't there an update. And as you didn't us your account for 'decades' probably you need to reactivate it or something like that. Or perhaps it went corrupt after an update. In this case I would contact the gMail Help desk. This well OT so this'll be my last... Read my posts and you'll see that there is nothing wrong with my Gmail account, I just can't access it with my Windows machine. It's a Windows setting somewhere because I can access it perfectly fine from this iMac. It's happened a few times before but I can't remember what I did to fix it. I'm not even bothering to find out what the problem is as I don't use the web interface, I collect anything from Gmail via POP. -- Tony iMac Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
--On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:40 pm +0200 Martin Schoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over here with POP (TheBat) and Web no problem... Did you forgot username and/or password? He's not talking about The Bat. He can't connect to the web interface with his browser, not his email client. I can't connect either for some reason. -- Tony iMac Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
--On Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:08 am +0200 Martin Schoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem over here. Did you try with the username only give uname and not [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I know my username and password and I can connect fine using this Mac. I can't connect using my PC as it won't load the page. I've had it happen before and it's a java problem, the page won't load. I stopped using Gmail ages ago anyway, I only tried to connect to help Stuart out. Stuart, I assume you get the Loading stage and then a blank page? If so I'm pretty sure it's a Java thing. all I get is a note at the bottom saying Error on page. It works fine if I use this Mac but not the PC so it isn't a problem with Gmail itself. -- Tony iMac Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
I'm pretty sure it's a Java thing. all I get is a note at the bottom saying Error on page. It works fine if I use this Mac but not the PC so it isn't a problem with Gmail itself. Just to confirm, I've access GMail both via TB and the Web this morning on my Windows PC so GMail itself is up and running. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. pgpBnC5J1xTyA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Hi Stuart, On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:07:27 -0500 (4:07 PM here), Stuart Cuddy [SC] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SC I know this isn't really relevant, but I thought I might get an SC answer quickest here. SC I am unable to connect to gmail. Anyone else? Using this URL? https://mail.google.com -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.5.30 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) pgpTXV9kH72hu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Dear Tony, On 6/23/05, Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart, I assume you get the Loading stage and then a blank page? If so I'm pretty sure it's a Java thing. all I get is a note at the bottom saying Error on page. It works fine if I use this Mac but not the PC so it isn't a problem with Gmail itself. GMail's website does not use Java, but Javascript. Do you use any filtering software? Might just be a clue... OTOH, I use Webwasher and it works fine with GMail... Best, Johannes Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
--On Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:14 pm +0200 Martin Schoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which browser are you using? IE on both. So it doesn't seem to be a Java problem - but perhaps a Cookie problem... I deleted all cookies and it still didn't work. I turned off cookies completely and still can't connect. -- Tony iMac Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Dear Kevin, -- Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005, 12:57:08: SC I am unable to connect to gmail. Anyone else? Using this URL? https://mail.google.com or this one https://gmail.google.com -- best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Dear Tony, -- Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005, 14:29:37: I deleted all cookies and it still didn't work. I turned off cookies completely and still can't connect. Can you connect to the main site or is it just that you can't login? Could it be related to your location or provider? Just thinking loud! -- best regards | Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
--On Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:33 pm +0200 Eddie Castelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you connect to the main site or is it just that you can't login? I can log in but then I get a blank page with nothing at all loaded and in the status bar at the bottom it says something like Error on Page. Could it be related to your location or provider? Just thinking loud! Can't be either, I can log in, read and send fine using IE on this Mac but can't using IE on the PC. Both connected to the same provider via a Belkin router. -- Tony iMac Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 3:07:27 PM, you wrote: Sorry for disappearing in the middle of my own thread. Got busy. Did solve my problem though. It seems they updated Gmail Notifier, the extension in FireFox that automatically checks to see if there is email, and it would not log in anymore. Soon as I updated it I could log in as usual. Thanks to all who answered. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Witaj Stuart, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 10:07:27 PM, naskrobałeś: Hello tbbeta, I know this isn't really relevant, but I thought I might get an answer quickest here. I am unable to connect to gmail. Anyone else? Did you enables access through POP in settings? By default it is disabled (Settings =Forwarding and POP) -- Regards Daniel Łuba The Bat 3.5.30 na Windows 2000 build 2195 Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Hello CRAZY, A reminder of what CRAZY typed on: June 22, 2005 at 22:07:10 GMT +0200 C Witaj Stuart, C Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 10:07:27 PM, naskrobałeś: Hello tbbeta, I know this isn't really relevant, but I thought I might get an answer quickest here. I am unable to connect to gmail. Anyone else? C Did you enables access through POP in settings? By default it is C disabled (Settings =Forwarding and POP) Sorry I did not mean this is a Bat issue. I can't connect to gmail at all. Even through the web interface. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.30 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Witaj Stuart, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 10:14:56 PM, naskrobałeś: Hello CRAZY, A reminder of what CRAZY typed on: June 22, 2005 at 22:07:10 GMT +0200 C Witaj Stuart, C Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 10:07:27 PM, naskrobałeś: Hello tbbeta, I know this isn't really relevant, but I thought I might get an answer quickest here. I am unable to connect to gmail. Anyone else? C Did you enables access through POP in settings? By default it is C disabled (Settings =Forwarding and POP) Sorry I did not mean this is a Bat issue. I can't connect to gmail at all. Even through the web interface. Those settings are in the gmail account settings - not in Bat. -- Pozdrawiam Daniel Łuba The Bat 3.5.30 na Windows 2000 build 2195 Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail
Hi Stuart, In the message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which was apparently written on Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 9:07:27 PM. I believe you wrote: SC I am unable to connect to gmail. Anyone else? Mine works -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hello Liz, A reminder of what Liz on TBBETA typed on: 01 April 2005 at 15:36:36 GMT +0200 L You missed reading the important part. (Our *PLAN* is ... blah blah L more when we are able).. eg, coming soon My Gmail account reads... You are currently using 1 MB (0%) of your 2063 MB. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.13 Return :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
On Wednesday, 6 April 2005, at 09:10:01 [GMT +0100] you wrote: TB My Gmail account reads... TB You are currently using 1 MB (0%) of your 2063 MB. seems to be a storage stunt to well and truly go past hotmail and yahoo. If you go to the gmail login page you will see a counter constantly increasing, showing you how much storage you get with gmail. Don't throw anything away. 2063.499165 megabytes (and counting) of free storage so you'll never need to delete another message. I'm too lazy to work out how quickly the counter is increasing, but it isn't *that* quickly. Neat stunt. If only TB!'s search was as fast as gmail's... cheers, davidp. -- David Pascoe, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Western Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.9.13 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, 10:28, David Pascoe wrote: Don't throw anything away. 2063.499165 megabytes (and counting) of free storage so you'll never need to delete another message. I'm too lazy to work out how quickly the counter is increasing, but it isn't *that* quickly. Neat stunt. It's fast enough to coop with the stream of tbbeta messages :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hello David, A reminder of what David Pascoe on TBBETA typed on: 06 April 2005 at 10:29:59 GMT +0200 DP seems to be a storage stunt to well and truly go past hotmail and yahoo. I didn't find 1Gb of storage that impressive in the first place. I use 1and1 and I get that anyway, plus IMAP if I ever got the courage up to try it. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.13 Return :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hi Stuart, Friday, April 1, 2005, 2:18:12 PM, you wrote: SH GMail has increased the amount of storage each user has. The article SH (http://www.google.com/gmail/help/whatsnew.html) says 2Gb but my mail SH web page says it's currently 1302Mb You missed reading the important part. (Our *PLAN* is ... blah blah more when we are able).. eg, coming soon :) Storage is an important part of email, but that doesn't mean you should have to worry about it. To celebrate our one-year birthday, we're giving everyone one more gigabyte. But why stop the party there? Our plan is to continue growing your storage beyond 2GBs by giving you more space as we are able. We know that email will only become more important in people's lives, and we want Gmail to keep up with our users and their needs. From Gmail, you can expect more. -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
You missed reading the important part. Story of my life. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference. pgpnZlLdRJGcj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:08:16 +0100 GMT (12/11/2004, 22:08 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK As if we wouldn't have enough marketing and advertising crap everywhere ASK around us, already... honstely, if there's one industry I'd like to see ASK jump in the lake, its advertising and marketing. That's not going to happen. OT alarm sounding -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: Aren't you the guy from the Village People? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hi there tbbeta, Going back 18:46 17.11.2004... This is a bit OT but would somebody please get me up to speed on how to obtain a gmail account. I did a google search and it seems that an application is required but have been unable to locate a proper link To add to the others, I too still have invites free, so if you too want a gmail account, drop me a mail off-list... ;) Cheers, Johannes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If the strong are unwilling to die for justice, the weak are certain to die without it. Rick Acker The Bat! 3.0.2.5 serving on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello Keith, Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 7:41:36 PM, you wrote: K I still have several, in fact I've got one left, first come first serve. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Some people are, through no fault of their own, sane. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello MFAS, on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 at you wrote: Hello tbbeta, This is a bit OT but would somebody please get me up to speed on how to obtain a gmail account. I did a google search and it seems that an application is required but have been unable to locate a proper link Just a minute and you will be invited. :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.1.33 \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello MFAS, A reminder of what MFAS on TBBETA typed on: 17 November 2004 at 12:46:15 GMT -0500 This is a bit OT but would somebody please get me up to speed on how to obtain a gmail account. I did a google search and it seems that an application is required but have been unable to locate a proper link That's because you can't get a gmail account without a personal invite. I had 6 to give away but they went within minutes to people on this list. Just wait till someone on this list gets the option from Google and offers them on here. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 17/11/2004 at 19:08 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello Stefan, A reminder of what Stefan Dorscht on TBBETA typed on: 17 November 2004 at 20:37:50 GMT +0100 Just a minute and you will be invited. :-) See Jim, all good things come to he who waits :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 17/11/2004 at 19:39 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello MFAS, on Wednesday, 17. November 2004, at 12:46:15 [GMT -0500] you wrote regarding gmail: This is a bit OT but would somebody please get me up to speed on how to obtain a gmail account. I did a google search and it seems that an application is required but have been unable to locate a proper link Somebody else has the possibility to invite me for a Gmail account? Thanks in advance. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.0.2.7 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de pgpckp0w0DatX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Thomas Martin wrote: Somebody else has the possibility to invite me for a Gmail account? Thanks in advance. Email me privately if you still need one, and I'll be happy to help you out. I have several, if anyone else needs one. -- Keith Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello Thomas Martin, on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 at you wrote: Hello MFAS, on Wednesday, 17. November 2004, at 12:46:15 [GMT -0500] you wrote regarding gmail: This is a bit OT but would somebody please get me up to speed on how to obtain a gmail account. I did a google search and it seems that an application is required but have been unable to locate a proper link Somebody else has the possibility to invite me for a Gmail account? Thanks in advance. ok, sending my last invitation... -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.1.33 \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello Keith Russell, on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 at you wrote: Thomas Martin wrote: Somebody else has the possibility to invite me for a Gmail account? Thanks in advance. Email me privately if you still need one, and I'll be happy to help you out. I have several, if anyone else needs one. Did you send already an invitation to Thomas Martin? -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.1.33 \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello Stefan, on Wednesday, 17. November 2004, at 20:55:13 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding gmail: Somebody else has the possibility to invite me for a Gmail account? Thanks in advance. ok, sending my last invitation... Thanks a lot man, can't wait..yeah.. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.0.2.7 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de pgpEr3pYO01kO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Hello Thomas Martin, on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 at you wrote: Hello Stefan, on Wednesday, 17. November 2004, at 20:55:13 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding gmail: Somebody else has the possibility to invite me for a Gmail account? Thanks in advance. ok, sending my last invitation... Thanks a lot man, can't wait..yeah.. Schick mir bitte eine private eMail, an die die Einladung dann geht! Danke! -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.1.33 \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Stefan Dorscht wrote: Did you send already an invitation to Thomas Martin? No, I didn't, but it looks like you did. :-) -- Keith Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: gmail
Peter Hampf wrote: or, if he can't wait it, try ebay and search for 'gmail'. You can get it there for a few cents. There are also some sites where you can get them for free. However, we have enough Gmail users here that I think anyone should have no trouble getting one here. There aren't as many new users looking for accounts as there used to be, so I usually have a few available. I still have several, in fact -- Keith Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Gonçalo, A reminder of what Gonçalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 13 November 2004 at 08:25:45 GMT +0100 GF Really? Where are you from? That applies to any kind of encryption? England and yes really to any type of encryption. Marck, I know it applies to encrypted email but what about encrypted data on your hard drive? For example this Bat's encrypted mail base or a PGPdisk or Steganos drive? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 13/11/2004 at 09:55 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Dear Tony, @13-Nov-2004, 09:58 Tony Boom [TB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Gonçalo: GF Really? Where are you from? That applies to any kind of encryption? TB England and yes really to any type of encryption. TB Marck, I know it applies to encrypted email but what about encrypted TB data on your hard drive? For example this Bat's encrypted mail base or TB a PGPdisk or Steganos drive? It applies even more to that than encrypted mail. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpQ3LjO6M0CG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Marck, A reminder of what Marck D Pearlstone on TBBETA typed on: 13 November 2004 at 11:46:14 GMT +0100 MDP It applies even more to that than encrypted mail. Well that's bloody ridiculous! There's a lot to be said for Royal Mail then, nobody is allowed to read that other than the addressee, not even the person who sent it once it's been posted. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 13/11/2004 at 10:55 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Avi, Friday, November 12, 2004, 8:29:59 AM, you wrote: If anyone is interested, I currently have a spare six invitations that will be no problem to hand out. What about the advertising and datamining that is done on the stored data? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:58:03 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: What about the advertising and datamining that is done on the stored data? Yes, what about it? :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 08:59:34 GMT +0100 ASK What about the advertising and datamining that is done on the stored ASK data? I've been using gmail for a few weeks, have you ever seen an advert on any of my posts? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 09:17 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Avi! On 12 Nov 2004 10:33:38 (my local time 09:33:38), you typed:I'd be interested in the gmail thingy. Could you please tell me about it and how to do to join it? Feel free to write to the address found in the signature. Thanks! - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.13 Lucky Beta/7, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQFBlI62ODlJeoMTOQsRA7t8AKDc/zQWI54OjIEKQ/sGIotorYLF2gCgrI8D xxz+qCrg4uuUp/4qhqR97FY= =VnWF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hi Avi, I am interested in one of those invitations for GMail, please send replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks... *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/12/2004 at 9:29 AM Avi Yashar wrote: Gmail has started to phase in POP3 access, and Google is assuring us that there is no plan to charge for the service. It will take a few weeks before everyone has it. But at this stage it seems to me that Gmail is a great option for managing the tremendous amount of mail from this forum. You get 1Gb of storage, a great search engine for locating information, and you can easily receive the messages in TB if you want to use TB, rather than Gmail, for sending and receiving messages to tbbeta. If you are using IMAP, you could still funnel your tbbeta correspondence through Gmail by setting up Gmail to forward all messages to your IMAP account. If anyone is interested, I currently have a spare six invitations that will be no problem to hand out. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Doug Smith - Senior Writer Internet.Com http://www.winplanet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Avi, A reminder of what Avi Yashar typed on: 12 November 2004 at 08:30:27 GMT +0100 AY If anyone is interested, I currently have a spare six invitations that AY will be no problem to hand out. I got a few invites left to give away as well if anyone is interested. Send me a personal mail if your interested. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 10:32 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Avi, Friday, November 12, 2004, 8:29:59 AM, you wrote: AY Gmail has started to phase in POP3 access, and Google is assuring us AY that there is no plan to charge for the service. It will take a few AY weeks before everyone has it. God forbid! Please take a look: http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/ GMail? Never! Andreas -- Rechtsanwalt Andreas Schwartmann Schwerinstr. 37-39, D-50733 Köln Tel.: 0221-7787630 | Fax: 0221-7787629 www.rechtsanwalt.andreas-schwartmann.de PGP 8.0 key: www.andreas-schwartmann.de/pubring.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:31:05 +0100, Andreas Schwartmann wrote: Please take a look: http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/ Cute Web site. But what's new here? Anyone with a little savvy knows that unencrypted email is no more secure than a postcard. And you don't have to leave your mail on Gmail - you can leave it on any server and end up with the same sort of security issues. No big deal. Write with discretion, and you will live in cyberspace without fear. :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Tony, Friday, November 12, 2004, 10:17:48 AM, you wrote: ASK What about the advertising and datamining that is done on the ASK stored data? I've been using gmail for a few weeks, have you ever seen an advert on any of my posts? Thats not the point... what you need is the awareness of what Google does with the data stored and processed on its servers, and apparently you're lacking it. :-} -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander! On Friday, November 12, 2004 at 1:13:18 PM you wrote: and apparently you're lacking it. :-} But surely *you* know, Mr Moore? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Obscurantism in an academic subject expands to fill the vacuum of its intrinsic simplicity. (Richard Dawkins) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Avi, Friday, November 12, 2004, 9:33:38 AM, you wrote: What about the advertising and datamining that is done on the stored data? Yes, what about it? :-) I read: Its free, so why even think about it? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Dierk, Friday, November 12, 2004, 1:16:41 PM, you wrote: and apparently you're lacking it. :-} But surely *you* know, Mr Moore? Why do you call me by that name? Did I miss anything? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But surely *you* know, Mr Moore? Why do you call me by that name? Did I miss anything? You're statement that provoked his response implies that you're enlightened while the poor fellas using GMail aren't. All I read are speculations and conjectures about what may be done with the data. Do you have proof to provide? If all you need is apparent opportunity to imply guilt, then I hope you encrypt all your mail. -- -= Allie Martin =- IMAP Clients: ThunderBird v0.9 | SquirrelMail v1.4.4 | The Bat! IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander! On Friday, November 12, 2004 at 1:23:39 PM you wrote: Why do you call me by that name? Did I miss anything? The gist of it Allie already wrote. My adding the name was just a hint at the most sought after conspiration theory advancer. He's more liked in Germany than anywhere else; perhaps because nobody over here checks on his so-called facts (www.spinsanity.org). Why should I assume Gmail is not honest - just because someone claims without proof? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request The happiness principle: it is a higher moral principle to always seek happiness with someone else's happiness in mind, and never seek happiness when it leads to someone else's unhappiness. (Michael Shermer) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 13:14:15 GMT +0100 ASK and apparently you're lacking it. :-} Do you really think I'd use a web based email account for anything other than messing about with? I'm using it exclusively for this list at the moment and a few personal email from people on this list who want an invite. If Google or anyone else want to read anything in my gmail inbox they're welcome, there is a dozen other places where these lists are stored, gmane, The Bat archives for example where anyone can read every post ever sent to these lists. What difference one more, one that may be marginally more secure? Paranoia is one word that spring to mind, I'm lacking it, you have an abundance of it. I've always said that hotmail, yahoo mail, and any other web based mail servers are for kids, and as old as I am I like to play. Your acting as if it's my primary, use all the time account. I have my own .com for Pete's sake, that is secure, I even have to use authentication to send as well as receive, how many standard ISP's require that? Lighten up Dude, it's a toy! I think this topic is really for TBOT. I would subscribe to it but it's on Yahoo and we all know how insecure that is don't we :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 12:33 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Tony Boom everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 13:50:39 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Paranoia is one word that spring to mind, I'm lacking it, you have an abundance of it. I just don't see why supporting a service that feeds the advertising industry with profiles is ok and a toy. Thats whats happening at gmail, and its enough for me to avoid that service. As if we wouldn't have enough marketing and advertising crap everywhere around us, already... honstely, if there's one industry I'd like to see jump in the lake, its advertising and marketing. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Dierk Haasis everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 13:49:36 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Why should I assume Gmail is not honest - just because someone claims without proof? Tame your fantasy. I did not say its not honest. I did not form any conspiracy theory. They say that they'll advertising according to the content of your mails (and that *is* data mining), and as I said in the other post I just sent, I don't like that. I don't like the idea, I don't like the outcome, I don't use it. That simple. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 When I was younger I used to think I knew all the anwers. Now I'm beginning to realise I only know some of the questions... (unknown) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Allie Martin everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 13:36:49 (GMT +0100), you wrote: You're statement that provoked his response implies that you're enlightened while the poor fellas using GMail aren't. That was not my intention. I just find that people are using things (anything, from Internet Explorer to Outlook Express, for example) without thinking about it for a moment. All I read are speculations and conjectures about what may be done with the data. Do you have proof to provide? Its everything in gmails terms of service, I explained that already. If all you need is apparent opportunity to imply guilt, then I hope you encrypt all your mail. I can't translate that sentence into german so that I could make anything of it, sorry. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Have courage for the great sorrows of life, and patience for the small ones. And when you have accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake. -- Victor Hugo Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 16:07:34 GMT +0100 ASK I just don't see why supporting a service that feeds the advertising ASK industry with profiles is ok and a toy. Thats whats happening at gmail, ASK and its enough for me to avoid that service. And I fully respect your opinion and decision to do so. I personally am not supporting the service, I'm using it. exploiting it for my own enjoyment. ASK As if we wouldn't have enough marketing and advertising crap everywhere ASK around us, already... honstely, if there's one industry I'd like to see ASK jump in the lake, its advertising and marketing. Oh come Alex, if it wasn't for advertisements we would all have to pay much higher inflated prices for many, many things. And probably for a great many things we don't have to pay for now. Take this countries terrestrial TV channels. We have to pay £121 TV license just to own a TV. All of it, every last penny goes to the BBC who don't advertise. None at all goes to the ITV who use 3 minutes advertising every 15 minutes or so. Great if you need a wee or want to put the kettle on. Anyway, take a look here http://www.neurowerx.de/ Two adverts on the opening page and a whole list of them on the links page advertising other peoples web sites. I don't like BMW's or Volvo's but there are plenty of insane people out there who do and adverts play a big part in selling those cars :) Just out of curiosity, have you tried gmail? I can find a dozen web sites slagging of Windows the same, no, more than that gmail site but I bet I couldn't stop you using Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 15:40 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:08:16 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I just don't see why supporting a service that feeds the advertising industry with profiles is ok and a toy. Thats whats happening at gmail, and its enough for me to avoid that service. So avoid it, Alexander. No one is forcing you to use it. But why do you feel the need to post 8 messages on this thread (that I started as a potential service) just to promote your negative point of view? As if we wouldn't have enough marketing and advertising crap everywhere around us, already... honstely, if there's one industry I'd like to see jump in the lake, its advertising and marketing. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Well, you got me curious, Alexander. And your signature tells us where to go to find out more about you. So I thought neurowerx - well, that sounds like it could be neurotic in English, and I wanted to know if you had done that much self-analysis. :-) So, lo and behold, what do I find at the top of a Web page from a man who has just identified his number one aversion as advertising and marketing? You guessed it - a PayPal Donate button and a sales pitch to go with it! -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 16:13:43 GMT +0100 ASK I don't like the idea, I don't like the outcome, I don't use it. ASK That simple. And the reason it's that simple is because they inform you of that fact beforehand, they don't wait for you to sign up and start using and then let you Notice the adverts for your self. You pays your money and takes your choice... In this case you don't pay any money (Yet?) but still get the choice. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 15:57 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 16:18:24 GMT +0100 ASK I can't translate that sentence into german so that I could make anything ASK of it, sorry. What he means is, if your that paranoid then do you encrypt ALL your mail anyway. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 16:00 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Avi Yashar wrote: Well, you got me curious, Alexander. And your signature tells us where to go to find out more about you. So I thought neurowerx - well, that sounds like it could be neurotic in English, and I wanted to know if you had done that much self-analysis. :-) So, lo and behold, what do I find at the top of a Web page from a man who has just identified his number one aversion as advertising and marketing? You guessed it - a PayPal Donate button and a sales pitch to go with it! Sigh. I will be flamed... and this is completely OT. Ah well. Such is life. 'neurowerx' sounds more like a play of words with 'neurowerks'. This may mean a lot of things, but I do not see it as 'neurotic'... And... Alexander is doing nothing out of normal putting a PayPal button on his page. He is not proposing to collect your information, analyse it, and provide you with needed feedback' in the form of commercial links. Peace, folks. -- ..hggdh.. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello hggdh, A reminder of what hggdh typed on: 12 November 2004 at 17:40:08 GMT +0100 h And... Alexander is doing nothing out of normal putting a PayPal button h on his page. He is not proposing to collect your information, Your not paying attention at the back there are you :) A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 16:07:34 GMT +0100 ASK As if we wouldn't have enough marketing and advertising crap everywhere ASK around us, already... honstely, if there's one industry I'd like to see ASK jump in the lake, its advertising and marketing. And there he is openly advertising on his own site for all to see. If that's not a hypocritical attitude what is? One rule for him and another for Google eh? Think we should leave it now before we all end up smelling of fish. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 16:53 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Avi Yashar everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 16:59:55 (GMT +0100), you wrote: So avoid it, Alexander. No one is forcing you to use it. But why do you feel the need to post 8 messages on this thread (that I started as a potential service) just to promote your negative point of view? I'm just taking the same right as you, dear Avi. Well, you got me curious, Alexander. And your signature tells us where to go to find out more about you. So I thought neurowerx - well, that sounds like it could be neurotic in English, and I wanted to know if you had done that much self-analysis. :-) So, lo and behold, what do I find at the top of a Web page from a man who has just identified his number one aversion as advertising and marketing? You guessed it - a PayPal Donate button and a sales pitch to go with it! If you'd just read the webpage instead of jumping straight onto that PayPal button I maybe wouldn't have the feeling that you're trying to discredit me in such an unhonest way. Are you trying to prove anything or are you just trying to be insulting? In case you've missed it: I make free music. Its free for everyone. No payload, no advertising, no royalties, no spyware installation, just the music. If you want the music, go ahead and download it. Its *FREE*. If you like, keep it, play as often as you want, share with your friends, whatever, I don't mind. If you like it very much, you can buy me a beer with that PayPal button, as it is stated in the text. The music is *free* and you do not have to abandon your right for privacy or anything else for it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy! -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Tony Boom everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 16:58:28 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Anyway, take a look here http://www.neurowerx.de/ Two adverts on the opening page and a whole list of them on the links page advertising other peoples web sites. Hello? Is it really so hard to see the difference? Am I earning money with it? No. Does Google earn money with it? Definitely yes. Do you abandon your right for privacy so that Google can make money? Another yes. And if thats your choice, thats ok. I voiced a different view and opinion. Every posting about gmail sounds as if it were the best thing since sliced bread (see subject), well I don't see it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Doctrine is always the weakest part of faith. -- Patrick Douglas Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander! On Friday, November 12, 2004 at 6:10:16 PM you wrote: I'm just taking the same right as you, dear Avi. You are not. Avi offered something constructive, namely the opportunity to test Gmail. The only you offered was negative feedback. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Military Intelligence is a contradiction in terms. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 18:18:12 GMT +0100 ASK I voiced a different view and opinion. But the impression you gave was that you was trying to force your opinion on others. ASK Every posting about gmail sounds as if it were the best thing since ASK sliced bread No, no, no, this is the best think since sliced bread http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.boom/dscn0756_7148.jpg And this is a close second. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.boom/dscn0760_7143.jpg And when combined together... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.boom/dscn0747_7148.jpg What more could a man want? Except maybe this :) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.boom/dscn0767_7150.jpg ASK well I don't see it. Maybe you typed the address wrong :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 17:21 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Alexander! On Friday, November 12, 2004 at 6:19:02 PM you wrote: I voiced a different view and opinion. No you didn't. You voiced an opinion - unasked. Avi and Tony offered some invitations to Gmail accounts without any opinion. You voluntarily offered your negative impression of Google's and Gmail's business concept. No different view and opinion since nobody ventured one before you chimed in. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. (Groucho Marx) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on: 12 November 2004 at 18:30:33 GMT +0100 TB No, no, no, this is the best think since sliced bread Think? Duh! THING! -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 17:34 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Dierk Haasis everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 18:33:25 (GMT +0100), you wrote: I voiced a different view and opinion. No you didn't. You voiced an opinion - unasked. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I need to ask! Whom may I ask the next time? You? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Television is a medium of entertainment that permits millions of people to listen to the same joke at the same time and yet remain lonely. -- T. S. Eliot Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Dierk Haasis everyone else on 12-Nov-2004 at 18:33:25 (GMT +0100), you wrote: without any opinion Gmail is hot! sounds like an opinion to me. F'up - NULL -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 I'm just a collection of mirrors, reflecting what everyone else expects of me. -- Rollo May Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 12 November 2004 at 18:36:20 GMT +0100 ASK Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I need to ask! Whom may I ask the next time? ASK You? Lets all lighten up eh? It's not really that important and there is no need for anyone to get personal... Besides, you ask me not him :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 12/11/2004 at 17:43 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmail is hot!
Hello Alexander! On Friday, November 12, 2004 at 6:43:41 PM you wrote: Gmail is hot! sounds like an opinion to me. Not necessarily, but English lessons (language and culture) cost extra. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request No name calling. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
