Re: What is Content-Type: text/html, and Body parts are not necessary attachments (was: Address book weirdness)

2018-08-04 Thread Ira
Hello Marck,

Saturday, August 4, 2018, 2:44:58 AM, you wrote:

> I  wouldn't  like to see TB functionality compromised by smoothing out
> that  interface  element at the expense of the ability to save message
> parts externally in the correct content-type file type.

> Perhaps  a  switchable  option  to "Attachments: Show all parts / Show
> only  real  attachments"  would  provide the flexibility for power and
> standard users alike.

Thank you. That's all I'm asking for. I've no desire to make the program less 
flexible, I just want a "Friendly" button so when I install it at a clients, 
wife included, they don't say, this is to confusing. Heck, most of the time I 
wish all that stuff was hidden. It's not often I care about the structure of an 
email, I just want to read it and open or save the attachments if there are any.

-- Ira 



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Re: What is Content-Type: text/html, and Body parts are not necessary attachments (was: Address book weirdness)

2018-08-04 Thread Lüko Willms
Guten Tag, Marck Pearlstone,

am Samstag, 4. August 2018 um 11:44 schrieben Sie:

> In  which  case, I can see and sympathise with the point Ira made that
> an  email  consisting  only of an HTML part shouldn't be showing as an
> attachment.

 First, I had no chance of seeing a message with a single body part of 
text/html. 
 
 Second, TheBat! is wrong by calling the individual body parts "attachments", 
as in the menu which is called in German "Arbeitsplatz" (and in English 
probably work space? desk top?) where the fifth menu entry claims to provide 
configuration for how to show "attachments". 
 
 On the other hand, it is nice when I can see all the various body parts, but 
normally they are accessible also by the tabs at the bottom of the message 
content (sub-) window. 
 
  

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Lüko Willms
mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de
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Re: What is Content-Type: text/html, and Body parts are not necessary attachments (was: Address book weirdness)

2018-08-04 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 04 August 2018 at 10:25 Lüko Willms wrote and made these points

LW> please excuse me to break in again, but here a correction is called for:

... 

>> Because  it's not the message. The only way of using HTML for email is
>> to  make  it an attachment. It's how email works.

LW>This is wrong. This is not how Internet email works today.  
... 
LW>A single body part can be text, binary, or application
LW> specific, and if it is text, the content-type would be mostly text/html or 
text/plain.[1]

... 
LW>Marck Pearlstone is wrong writing "The only way of using HTML
LW> for email is to  make  it an attachment."

Thanks for this correction. You are absolutely right.

LW>Look at Ira's message which Marck Pearlstone is replying to, identified 
by these headers:
... 
>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LW> and this single body part was certainly not an "attachment".
LW> There was no other body part in it.

LW> But the mailing list processor Mailman added another body part with the 
headers
... 
LW> and only content being the footer for this mailing list

... 

In  which  case, I can see and sympathise with the point Ira made that
an  email  consisting  only of an HTML part shouldn't be showing as an
attachment.

I  wouldn't  like to see TB functionality compromised by smoothing out
that  interface  element at the expense of the ability to save message
parts externally in the correct content-type file type.

Perhaps  a  switchable  option  to "Attachments: Show all parts / Show
only  real  attachments"  would  provide the flexibility for power and
standard users alike.

-- 
Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v8.5.8.2 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17134 

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