Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Joseph, On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:01:24 -0500 GMT (29/07/03, 20:01 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: TF>> But out of curiosity: what kind of practice is that, and what TF>> kind of non-primitive system incorporates a primitive MUA? > The practice is a law practice (U.S. employment and labor law, o

Re[2]: Editing the subject header

2003-07-29 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, July 28, 2003, Allie Martin wrote in : AM> Perhaps you could tune Spampal to not be so sensitive. AM> Also, be sure that your whitelist is well tuned. Allie, Thx for the thoughts. Yes, I think both of those are good ways to approach this problem. -- JN _

Re[2]: Editing the subject header

2003-07-29 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, July 28, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote in : TF> But out of curiosity: what kind of practice is that, and what TF> kind of non-primitive system incorporates a primitive MUA? Thomas, The practice is a law practice (U.S. employment and labor law, on behalf of org

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Joseph, On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:49:20 -0500 GMT (29/07/03, 05:49 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: > My business e-mail goes into a primitive MUA that is a component of a > not-primitive practice management database. You don't seem to have any choice here. But out of curiosity: what kind of prac

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul, On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:59:23 -0400 GMT (29/07/03, 01:59 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC>> besides that, I have actually gotten replies from ISPs when I sent a PC>> spam to spamcop. I thought we were supposed to be anonymous using PC>> spamcop. Unfortunately I believe I have gott

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph N., [JN] wrote: JN> ... The problem is that the business-related MUA can filter only by JN> sender, recipient, or subject. So if I set SpamPal not to modify the JN> subject line, then my business app wouldn't be able to filter out JN> the spam.

Re[2]: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, July 28, 2003, Allie Martin wrote in : AM> Most spam filters offer a less obtrusive way of indicating that AM> messages are in fact spam. One such way is to add header entries AM> to the messages. AM> You can then use a Kludge filter to pick up the added heade

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander, > What, it hasn't gotten any better since last time? Lme! ;-) Of course it has. Last time it was way down to 99.73% ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Alexander
28-Jul-2003 22:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Miguel, aka MAU, will attest to POPfiles 99.99% accuracy. ;) ;) ;) > Only 99.74% Allie :-) What, it hasn't gotten any better since last time? Lme! ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de)

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > Miguel, aka MAU, will attest to POPfiles 99.99% accuracy. ;) ;) ;) Only 99.74% Allie :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, July 28, 2003, 2:44 PM, you wrote: PC> On Monday, July 28, 2003, 2:26 PM, you wrote: PC>>> X-Text-Classification: spam PC>>> as the filter, and I haven't had a false-positive yet. AM>> Ok. Then. My suggestion is to stop using SpamCop to help detect spam and AM>> use only POPfile. I

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: PC> actually I am using popfile and I created a TB filter using the : PC> X-Text-Classification: spam PC> as the filter, and I haven't had a false-positive yet. Ok. Then. My suggestion is to stop using SpamCop to help d

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, July 28, 2003, 12:40 PM, you wrote: AM> Hmmm. I think you're doing too much. SpamPal will work well enough AM> alone. It can be made to use the SpamCop blacklisted IP list anyway. AM> Personally, I don't use SpamCop's IP list because there I get too many AM> false positives. actually

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: PC> ok, if I used Spamcop filter, yes, I read the mail message, PC> determine that it is spam, CTRL-ALT-S to send AND move it to a SPAM PC> folder. This requires me reading the message, determining it is PC> spam, and deal

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
PC>> If I put it below, then it would come into my inbox, and I wouldn't know PC>> spampal had called it spam, since I don't change the subject. If I PC>> manually read it, and send it to spamcop, then I don't need spampal do PC>> I? AM> Why don't you have the filter move the message to a spam fo

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: PC> If I put it below, then it would come into my inbox, and I wouldn't know PC> spampal had called it spam, since I don't change the subject. If I PC> manually read it, and send it to spamcop, then I don't need spampal do

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, July 28, 2003, 12:07 PM, you wrote: AM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AM> Hash: SHA1 AM> Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: PC>> this is what I have setup, BUT it also stopped the spam filter from PC>> working in TB. Since I don't use the subject to define spam, but the PC>> x-headers

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: PC> this is what I have setup, BUT it also stopped the spam filter from PC> working in TB. Since I don't use the subject to define spam, but the PC> x-headers, it moves the spam to a new folder ( not inbox) and the spam PC

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, July 28, 2003, 11:47 AM, you wrote: AM> Most spam filters offer a less obtrusive way of indicating that messages AM> are in fact spam. One such way is to add header entries to the messages. AM> You can then use a Kludge filter to pick up the added header. AM> For example with spampal

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph N., [JN] wrote: JN> Occasionally, my spam filters will give me a false positive. It's no JN> trouble to move the message, but by then the subject line has been JN> modified to mark the message as spam. How can I re-edit that header JN> so it ap

Re: Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Joseph, On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:10:55 -0500 GMT (28/07/03, 22:10 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: > Occasionally, my spam filters will give me a false positive. It's no > trouble to move the message, but by then the subject line has been > modified to mark the message as spam. How can I re-edit

Editing the subject header

2003-07-28 Thread Joseph N.
Occasionally, my spam filters will give me a false positive. It's no trouble to move the message, but by then the subject line has been modified to mark the message as spam. How can I re-edit that header so it appears the way the sender intended? -- JN __