HTML Mail with links to Graphics

2008-07-03 Thread Barry
Hi Since using V4 I've been allowing myself to receive some HTML mail in full using the URL manager to allow only known senders. However, I've noticed that retrieving the graphics quite often slows to a crawl, the connection manager regularly reports download speeds for the URL 'links' as low

Re: HTML Mail with links to Graphics

2008-07-03 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Barry, B However, I've noticed that retrieving the graphics quite often slows to a B crawl, the connection manager regularly reports download speeds for the URL B 'links' as low as 15-30 cps, with TB! 'not responding' until the graphics or B whatever have been downloaded in full. B I

Re: HTML Mail with links to Graphics

2008-07-03 Thread Rick
Hi Barry, B However, I've noticed that retrieving the graphics quite often slows to a B crawl, the connection manager regularly reports download speeds for the URL B 'links' as low as 15-30 cps, with TB! 'not responding' until the graphics or B whatever have been downloaded in full. B I

Re: HTML Mail with links to Graphics

2008-07-03 Thread Barry
, except don't use AntispamSniper, which I am considering. Hmmm I LIKE antispamsniper. I used antispam servant until it turned into adware even when you paid for it Well, I've disabled/removed ASS and it hasn't made any improvement at all, downloading links in HTML mail slows to a crawl

Re: HTML Mail with links to Graphics

2008-07-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Barry, On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:38:43 +0100 GMT (04/07/2008, 01:38 +0700 GMT), Barry wrote: B Well, I've disabled/removed ASS and it hasn't made any improvement at all, B downloading links in HTML mail slows to a crawl, almost to the point of B freezing TB!, clicking on any part of TB's

Re: Replying to HTML Mail

2005-09-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lawrence, On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:54:21 -0500GMT (15-9-2005, 5:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LJ Has anyone seen this before and is there something about the senders LJ email that causes this? It's a new option in TB and is caused by you replying to HTML mail. Options - Preferences

Re: Replying to HTML Mail

2005-09-15 Thread wilwilwil
LJ Has anyone seen this before and is there something about the senders LJ email that causes this? It's a new option in TB and is caused by you replying to HTML mail. Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Reply to HTML in plain text You can check or uncheck this option and TB

Re[2]: Replying to HTML Mail

2005-09-15 Thread Lawrence Johnson
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 4:16:25 AM, you wrote: It's a new option in TB and is caused by you replying to HTML mail. Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Reply to HTML in plain text This option does not solved the problem. I have already talk about this problem in the past. I have

Replying to HTML Mail

2005-09-14 Thread Lawrence Johnson
I noticed that when I reply to some received mail, it displays in the editor awkwardly as one huge unedittable block. I can't select the parts of the mail I want to retain in my reply. The block is either present or not. My signature appended to the end appears in some strange, almost colorless

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Greg Strong everyone else, on 06-Feb-2005 at 00:19 you (Greg Strong) wrote: Giving away the IP address of the recipient when reading an HTML mail with embedded images, providing feedback to spammers that the message arrived. H... I cannot see why that is a security risk. If you

Re[2]: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mary, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MB And very well said. My .02 worth is to agree with all your points one MB hundred per cent! and I'll just add a very strong me to here but it would have to be an option. MB I think that the Smiley capability (also optional of

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 10:22:59 PM [GMT -0500], Thomas Fernandez wrote: GL That said, you can retrieve the entire message, external images and GL all, even in 1.62. All you have to do is double-click the icon for the GL HTML page to open it in your default browser. So, if you want to

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 10:29:57 PM [GMT -0500], Mary Bull wrote: I like to get my ads from Amazon. However, if they sent me an attachment, I would become quite wary. Me too. The spammers know about Amazon sending ads and will send fraudulent material. I get fraudulent stuff a lot

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 06:38:24 -0500 GMT (06/02/2005, 18:38 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM The interesting thing too is that if you open the message in your AM browser, the risks are still there in terms of security and privacy. Persactly. So I must know what I am doing, otherwise

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Thomas, A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez on TBOT typed on: Sunday, February 06, 2005 at 04:29:44 GMT +0100 TF TB's user demography will probably have a higher percentage of TF computer savvy users than most other mailers, yet it nannies the users TF more. Why is that? I can't

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Greg, A reminder of what Greg Strong on TBOT typed on: Sunday, February 06, 2005 at 04:45:40 GMT +0100 GS I've seen this argument on TB lists for years. It seems to be an GS ideological issue / opinion. Why can't you provide options and keep GS everybody happy? Exactly. Not having

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie! On Sunday, February 06, 2005, 5:48 AM, you wrote: I like to get my ads from Amazon. However, if they sent me an attachment, I would become quite wary. Me too. The spammers know about Amazon sending ads and will send fraudulent material. I get fraudulent stuff a lot concerning

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Richard! On Sunday, February 06, 2005, 2:34 AM, you wrote: Off topic It's a lovely day here, a bit chilly at the momnent, but I'm off to rake up the last two of the ten beds in the garden. I tend to take about two hours for each one as there are a lot of stones and I want to do it

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Tony, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:23:02 + GMT (06/02/2005, 19:23 +0700 GMT), Tony Boom wrote: TB Like Thomas said, the users on this list are the elite of email users, TB maybe a version of TB! just for us with a secret, non documented option TB for true full blown html ability... Just

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary! On Sunday, February 06, 2005, 6:47 AM, you wrote: Off topic It's a lovely day here, a bit chilly at the momnent, but I'm off to rake up the last two of the ten beds in the garden. I tend to take about two hours for each one as there are a lot of stones and I want to do it well.

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread David Calvarese
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 at 06:38:24 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: AM Fernandez wrote: GL That said, you can retrieve the entire message, external images and GL all, even in 1.62. All you have to do is double-click the icon for the GL HTML page to open it in your default browser. So, if you want to GL

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 21:29:57 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: M How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from M Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed? There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace... MB I like to get my ads from Amazon. However, if they sent me an MB

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 21:29:57 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: M How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from M Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed? There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace... MB I like to get my ads from Amazon. However, if they sent me an MB

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello David! On Sunday, February 06, 2005, 10:48 AM, you wrote: M How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from M Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed? There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace... MB I like to get my ads from Amazon. However, if they sent me an MB

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread David Calvarese
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 at 11:22:51 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: M How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from M Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed? There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace... MB I like to get my ads from Amazon. However, if they sent me an MB

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-06 Thread Chris
Thomas Fernandez @ 2005-Feb-5 10:18:57 PM Remote Images in HTML mail? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And if I whitelist the LH newsletter and then someone sends me a webbug from that address (not difficult to fake a From header), it is *my* risk. People who don't want to take that risk will leave

Re: RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 08:09, Jurgen Haug wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. No, sorry, this would let many people go away. HTML should not be used for emails. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Professional K9

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Thorvald, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 9:16:42 AM, you wrote: Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 08:09, Jurgen Haug wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. No, sorry, this would let many people go away. HTML should not be used for emails. HTML *is* used

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mic Cullen
At 09:16 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 5 (actual time - 4:16pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Saturday, February 5, 2005, 08:09, Jurgen Haug wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. No, sorry, this would let many people go away. HTML should

Re: RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 09:31, Jurgen Haug wrote: HTML *is* used for eMails. But this should not be a general habit. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195)

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Professional

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Thorvald, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:33:53 AM, you wrote: Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all. we will see what

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mic Cullen
At 10:33 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 5 (actual time - 5:33pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Thorvald Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. Thorvald No, sorry. I do not

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 09:16 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. No, sorry, this would let many people go away. Should be made configurable. Whats the problem with a switch that defines the default editor

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Jurgen, A reminder of what Jurgen Haug on TBOT typed on: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 10:46:19 GMT +0100 JH we will see what Ritlabs will do in future. Can you imagine what TBOT AKA The Cartoon Network would be like if TB! had full blown html capability? -- Tony. The Bat!

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 10:33 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all. Decide whats best for you, and let other people

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
backgrounds animated cartoons and blinking text everywhere. But a) for me *personally* it would be so much better if I'd have TB! with full HTML capability b) professionally, in the industry I'm working, like it or not, HTML mail is a must. I've switching employers a lot in the last years

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Jurgen Haug everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 11:19 you (Jurgen Haug) wrote: ASCII-evangelists LOL!! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The errors to avoid are those that eliminate opportunities to try again. -- Lazar Goldberg

Re: RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:14, Jurgen Haug wrote: exactly. but for some this is a religious matter, I guess. No, it is not. I am fully aware of the security risks of HTML emails. Others are not. I am quite glad TB does not allow those features to be used. The people who created

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:47, Mic Cullen wrote: If I send out a weekly schedule to the people I work for/with, being able to colour-code the different sports/teams I'm covering that week is incredibly useful, so that what I'm doing and for whom and when can be very

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:13, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Decide whats best for you, and let other people decide whats best for them... Yes, sure. But I hate to see TB having the HTML mode on as a default. Because I am educating my clients to use plain text emails, preferably with TB

Re: RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:19, Jurgen Haug wrote: b) professionally, in the industry I'm working, like it or not, HTML mail is a must. Sorry, I disagree. I am using emails professionally since 1994. And I have never seen an industry/company where HTML is a *must*. -- Kveðja

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Jurgen, A reminder of what Jurgen Haug on TBOT typed on: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 11:20:36 GMT +0100 JH And if even so, so what? To be honest, I'm easy either way. I have no problem with displaying html images direct from the web in email, it can't hurt can it? It's just so

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Thorvald, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:37:16 AM, you wrote: Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:19, Jurgen Haug wrote: b) professionally, in the industry I'm working, like it or not, HTML mail is a must. Sorry, I disagree. I am using emails professionally since 1994. And I

Re: RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:45, Jurgen Haug wrote: so you tell me you know better than me what is going on in the kind of industry *I* am working? Read my sentence again. I did not say that. It's your interpretation. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat!

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
some people JH to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. Preferences..Viewer/Editor..Default message/text editor. Enjoy. (Or shudder, as I do). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Tony, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:46:23 AM, you wrote: To be honest, I'm easy either way. I have no problem with displaying html images direct from the web in email, it can't hurt can it? It's just so many people are against it. so many people *on here* are against it. But I

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mic Cullen
At 11:33 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 5 (actual time - 6:33pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: If I send out a weekly schedule to the people I work for/with, being able to colour-code the different sports/teams I'm covering that week is incredibly useful, so

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mic Cullen
At 12:52 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 5 (actual time - 7:52pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Jurgen And better support for HTML mail. But I think they're working on that. Indeed - being able to save a template as HTML would be a real time-saver for me. (Even

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Saturday, February 5, 2005, 12:50, Mic Cullen wrote: No, I don't want the world to see it. A website does not imply it's accessible to the whole world. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195)

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Marck, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 12:24:38 PM, you wrote: JH yeah that would be nice, it would have made me convert some people JH to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. Preferences..Viewer/Editor..Default message/text editor. Enjoy. (Or shudder, as I do

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mic Cullen
At 13:05 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 5 (actual time - 8:05pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: No, I don't want the world to see it. Thorvald A website does not imply it's accessible to the whole world. This is getting ridiculous, but if I want people (of

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thorvald, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:33:53 +0100 GMT (05/02/2005, 16:33 +0700 GMT), Thorvald Neumann wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. TN No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all. Thanks for your opinion. I

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jurgen, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:46:44 +0100GMT (5-2-2005, 12:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JH But I didn't buy TB! to communicate with TB!-users. Neither did I and I still haven't decided whether it's an advantage or a disadvantage that it enables me to do so. ;-) -- Groetjes,

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 11:32 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote: I am fully aware of the security risks of HTML emails. Could you name one, please. Talking about security, not privacy. Talking about pure HTML (not javascript, and not ActiveX, either). -- Best

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Geoff Lane
On 05 February 2005, 10:46, Tony Boom wrote: To be honest, I'm easy either way. I have no problem with displaying html images direct from the web in email, it can't hurt can it? ~~~ I, for one, am very glad that TB won't display external images, and it's the main reason why I was prepared to

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Geoff Lane everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 13:48 you (Geoff Lane) wrote: External images can be used for malevolent purposes. For example, as web beacons to track your usage, or for spammers to verify your e-mail address. So, yes, displaying html images direct from the web in e-mail

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Alexander, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 1:52:05 PM, you wrote: This is a privacy, not a security issue. For that very reason the wish to add a sender to a list of trusted senders from whom remote images are allowed exists. Or a simple menu entry download images now. :good: that's one

Re[2]: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Jurgen, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, at 08:09:50 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:09 where I live) you wrote: yeah that would be nice, it would have made me convert some people to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. Each time I show collegues TB! (am the only one using

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:52:05 +0100 GMT (05/02/2005, 19:52 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: External images can be used for malevolent purposes. For example, as web beacons to track your usage, or for spammers to verify your e-mail address. So, yes, displaying html images

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Marck D Pearlstone everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 12:24 you (Marck D Pearlstone) wrote: Preferences..Viewer/Editor..Default message/text editor. D'oh - its already there... :-) What we need now is some solution for the remote images, as described in

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Chris
Tony Boom @ 2005-Feb-5 5:46:23 AM Remote Images in HTML mail? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To be honest, I'm easy either way. I have no problem with displaying html images direct from the web in email, it can't hurt can it? It can though. 1) Your kid gets porn spam. Would you rather have

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
to open the images right in the menu pane like Thunderbird or Pocomail does. JH yeah that would be nice, it would have made me convert some JH people to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new JH mail. Each time I show collegues TB! (am the only one using that JH at work) that's one

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 10:33:53 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN Hæ! TN Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. TN No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all. I see more use

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 10:33:53 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN Hæ! TN Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote: Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you really need it. TN No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all. I see more use

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 09:16:42 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN Hæ! TN Saturday, February 5, 2005, 08:09, Jurgen Haug wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. TN No, sorry, this would let many people go away. TN HTML should not be used for emails. I think he means

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 11:08:06 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on 05-Feb-2005 at 09:16 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. No, sorry, this would let many people go away. ASK Should be made configurable. Whats the problem with a switch

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 08:48:19 -0500 GMT (05/02/2005, 20:48 +0700 GMT), Chris wrote: C 1) Your kid gets porn spam. Would you rather have the images show up C right away or only after asked so he or she can delete it without C seeing the images. I'm impressed about your kids. Depending

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Geoff, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:15:35 + GMT (05/02/2005, 20:15 +0700 GMT), Geoff Lane wrote: GL FWIW, I didn't claim it to be either a security or a privacy issue - GL just something that I don't want. Others may want it. It is requested as an option only. GL However, there are known

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 22:02:41 +1100, Ian A. White wrote: IAW Thorvald, IAW On Saturday, February 5, 2005, 9:34:50 PM, you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote: TN Hæ! TN Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:13, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Decide whats best for you, and let other people decide whats best for

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Allie Martin
. This is one feature in ThunderBird that makes it more pleasant to read mail with. By default, it doesn't retrieve graphics or other data in HTML mail. However, at the click of a button, you can do this right there in the viewer. -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . As I said before, I never repeat myself

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello David, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 3:20:50 PM, you wrote: If I recall Netscape/Mozilla mail used to have the option in the address book for tagging contacts as 'This person prefers plain text email' or 'this person prefers HTML email' or 'Send Both'. Something along those lines would

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Alexander, On Saturday, February 05, 2005, at 2:08:06 AM PST, you wrote: This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. No, sorry, this would let many people go away. Should be made configurable. Whats the problem with a switch that defines the default editor? There already

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Chris everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 14:48 you (Chris) wrote: 2) Web bugs allow e-mailers to track who read what message when. This is normally done be embedding an image with a source like this: http://www.flybynight.com/scripts/[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgid=AD57 Thats the stuff I don't

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Geoff Lane everyone else, on 05-Feb-2005 at 14:15 you (Geoff Lane) wrote: FWIW, I didn't claim it to be either a security or a privacy issue - just something that I don't want. Neither do I, but it doesn't disqualify HTML email as a whole. However, there are known security issues

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Saturday, February 5, 2005, 19:01:54, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Thats the stuff I don't like either. Maybe a future TB function to download remote images should include a check that the URL does not contain an email address, or some other measure to prevent web bugs. It doesn't have to be

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Geoff Lane
On 05 February 2005, 14:07, Thomas Fernandez wrote: GL FWIW, I didn't claim it to be either a security or a privacy issue - GL just something that I don't want. Others may want it. It is requested as an option only. GL However, there are known security issues with html images that can GL cause

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Geoff, A reminder of what Geoff Lane on TBOT typed on: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 13:46:24 GMT +0100 GL So, yes, displaying html images direct from the web in e-mail can hurt. You maybe, not me though. -- Tony. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Registered Linux user #316959

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Geoff Lane
On 05 February 2005, 18:08, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But it doesn't disqualify HTML email either just because one or the other programmer screwed up and built code vulnerable to attacks. I have trust in RITlabs to make their code as best as possible. ~~~ FWIW, I strongly suspect that

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris on TBOT typed on: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 14:53:36 GMT +0100 C It can though. OK, I'll play along. C 1) Your kid gets porn spam. Would you rather have the images show up C right away or only after asked so he or she can delete it without C

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Thomas, A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez on TBOT typed on: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 15:17:35 GMT +0100 TF But then, I still fail to see why sexually implicit movies are so TF heavily regulated (how can they hurt anyone?), like PG18, while TF violent movies are often rated only

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
(not javascript, and not ActiveX, either). Giving away the IP address of the recipient when reading an HTML mail with embedded images, providing feedback to spammers that the message arrived. That's one. There are others. Downloading *anything* at the behest of an *email* is fundamentally a security breach

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
an HTML mail with embedded images, providing feedback to spammers that the message arrived. H... I cannot see why that is a security risk. That's one. There are others. Downloading *anything* at the behest of an *email* is fundamentally a security breach - it's not the way email

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Greg! On Saturday, February 05, 2005, 5:19 PM, you wrote, in part: Now having said that I will also state I'm a text based email advocate because I do understand that HTML email increases risk. I read all email in plain text. I don't know of any statistics on TB users, but would tend

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread MFPA
Hi On Saturday 5 February 2005 at 2:29:09 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], David Calvarese wrote: Even being able to take certain addresses as 'safe' to automaticly display the images for them. Like Amazon, I'm pretty sure their emails are safe. How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread David Calvarese
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 at 02:22:58 +, MFPA wrote: M Hi M On Saturday 5 February 2005 at 2:29:09 PM, in M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], David Calvarese wrote: Even being able to take certain addresses as 'safe' to automaticly display the images for them. Like Amazon, I'm pretty sure their emails are

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 19:40:35 +0100 GMT (06/02/2005, 01:40 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simoncic wrote: Thats the stuff I don't like either. Maybe a future TB function to download remote images should include a check that the URL does not contain an email address, or some other measure to

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Geoff, On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:46:28 + GMT (06/02/2005, 01:46 +0700 GMT), Geoff Lane wrote: GL I'm not saying for one moment that these things should not be GL available for those who want it - just that you should have the option GL to turn them off if you don't. Thanks, and I think

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:18:57 +0700 GMT(2/5/2005, 9:18 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas Fernandez wrote: TB's user demography will probably have a higher percentage of computer savvy users than most other mailers, yet it nannies the users more. Why is that? This

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:37:57 +0700 GMT(2/5/2005, 9:37 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas Fernandez wrote: MDP That's one. There are others. Downloading *anything* at the behest of MDP an *email* is fundamentally a security breach - it's not the way email MDP is

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Greg! On Saturday, February 05, 2005, 9:45 PM, you wrote: MDP That's one. There are others. Downloading *anything* at the behest of MDP an *email* is fundamentally a security breach - it's not the way email MDP is supposed to work. ...was supposed to work, I'd say. Welcome to the 21st

Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-04 Thread David Calvarese
Hey All, Is there a way to make TB! display remote images in an HTML mail for email that we know is safe? Say from like Amazon.com or Newegg.com? I'm trying to convince a friend of mine to switch over to TB! -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-04 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi David, On Friday, February 04, 2005, at 8:20:02 PM PST, you wrote: Is there a way to make TB! display remote images in an HTML mail for email that we know is safe? Say from like Amazon.com or Newegg.com? I'm trying to convince a friend of mine to switch over to TB! I don't think you can

Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-04 Thread David Calvarese
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 at 20:27:26 -0800, Melissa Reese wrote: Is there a way to make TB! display remote images in an HTML mail for email that we know is safe? Say from like Amazon.com or Newegg.com? I'm trying to convince a friend of mine to switch over to TB! MR I don't think you can download

RE: Remote Images in HTML mail?

2005-02-04 Thread Jurgen Haug
to be able to open the images right in the menu pane like Thunderbird or Pocomail does. yeah that would be nice, it would have made me convert some people to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail. Each time I show collegues TB! (am the only one using that at work) that's one

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-30 Thread MFPA
Hi On Thursday, 28 October, 2004, at 12:42:22 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: JS Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's JS invention. Z So why is TB! using it? Dunno. Z TB! is not know for its adherence to MS standards and were can I change this Z in TB! from

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-28 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 1:17:33 PM, you wrote: RO Specials - Alternative forward RO or ShiftAltF5 Hi Roelof, Look what a customer of mine received in their mail when I attached the EML extension: This text was added by an EDS mail relay -

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-28 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 8:57:24, Gerard wrote: So is there an EML equivalent extension not on the ban list that you know of? Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's invention. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Anticipated events never

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-28 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, October 28, 2004, 9:15:36 AM, you wrote: JS Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's JS invention. Hi Jernej, So why is TB! using it? TB! is not know for its adherence to MS standards and were can I change this in TB! from EML to MSG? -- Best

Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

2004-10-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Gerard! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 6:36 AM, you wrote, in part: G were can I change this in TB! from EML to MSG? Main Window of TB!, Options/Preferences/Protection. I am so skittish of messing with TB!'s default here, however, that before I made a change I did a CP to SmartBat, so

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