Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-10 Thread Curtis
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:13:18 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: SL Ungh. If I wanted to read like that I'd switch to Pine or Mutt and be SL done with it. Total lack of any indication of where new mail is? Nasty, SL nasty, nasty. TF I'd like to know how many unread messages are in the folder

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Curtis, On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:26:27 -0500GMT (10/08/2000, 15:26 +0800GMT), Curtis wrote: C This is why a status bar for the view folder window displaying the C number of unread to total messages would help a great deal. To the contrary, I would say a status bar for the view folder window

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 10:48:21 PM, Curtis wrote: machine as we speak for cripes sake. I know exactly what you're both referring to. Just what is your problem Steve??!! My problem is most people get it wrong. There is no problems with the

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 10:53:37 PM, Curtis wrote: We aren't being critical of PMMails method. We are defending TB!'s method. There's a difference there you know. Right. PMMail correct. TB! incorrect. Reasons given months ago. - --

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:35:51 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SL Hash: SHA1 SL Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 10:48:21 PM, Curtis wrote: machine as we speak for cripes sake. I know exactly what you're both referring to. Just what is your problem Steve??!! SL My problem

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 9:52:21 AM, Curtis wrote: to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or Navigation - Go to Folder. OTOH, I'd want PMMail's browse windows to disappear when I'm finished browsing a list because there's nothing else to do with

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:22:49 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or Navigation - Go to Folder. OTOH, I'd want PMMail's browse windows to disappear when I'm finished browsing a list because there's nothing else to do with the browse SL Depends on your point of view,

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:01:28 -0500, Curtis wrote: talking to myself C As a direct result of these differences, unlike PMMail, one can browse C multiple folders with ease without ever having to look at the main TB! C window during the process and without ever having to close the view C folder

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:01:28 AM, Curtis wrote: Being able to change to a different folder using shiftctrlg is a kludgy function? I say no to that. TB! is just different in approach. And a wrong one. As I said months ago, it does

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:08:48 AM, Curtis wrote: another for all other folders. The only reason I'd check the main window at times for would be to see the amount of unread messages left in the folder I was browsing. Ungh. If I wanted

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:19:04 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: another for all other folders. The only reason I'd check the main window at times for would be to see the amount of unread messages left in the folder I was browsing. SL Ungh. If I wanted to read like that I'd switch to Pine or Mutt

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:14:20 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL And a wrong one. As I said months ago, it does something unexpected SL and illogical and that /bug/ should be fixed. nudge Get used to it and if you can't then use PMMail which offers your preferred approach. That's why there is choice.

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:32:11 AM, Curtis wrote: If the software doesn't do things the way you prefer it to, it's buggy on that account? Isn't that stretching what the term 'bug' means? :-) Do you consider suboptimal implementation of a

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 11:14:20 GMT -0700 (which was 19:14 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": Being able to change to a different folder using shiftctrlg is a kludgy function? I say no t

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 11:49:56 GMT -0700 (which was 19:49 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": If the software doesn't do things the way you prefer it to, it's buggy on that acco

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:49:56 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL No, I term something that does something unexpected a bug. "Del and SL up" deleting the current message and bringing up the message from SL below is certainly not "Delete and up", now is it? Nor is "Del and SL down" deleting and showing the

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:30:14 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: C Because of this, having a folder disappear when I'm finished with a C message list is not what I'd want in TB! for the simple reason that C I often wish to change to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or C Navigation - Go to Folder. KP I

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:03:43 PM, Marck wrote: Definition time: a bug is a _fault_ in the implementation of a piece of software (the coding) which renders it inoperable or breaks design constraints within which the software should be

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:23:21 PM, Curtis wrote: the weasel with me. g Why deviate the discussion and bring the above bug into the picture. Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I have indicated this both on list a lng time ago

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Kenneth, On 09 August 2000 at 12:30:14 GMT -0700 (which was 20:30 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": C Because of this, having a folder disappear when I'm finished with C a message list is not wha

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 1:23:03 PM, Marck wrote: That is only because you happen to have the main Window open. Curtis and I (and others who haven't yet mentioned that they work this way) don't. TB stays in the tool tray most of the time.

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:03:19 -0500, Curtis wrote: KP (I'd also like to see "move to folder and go to next/prev message" KP on the toolbar (a feature I use a lot in PMMail).) The 'go to next/previous message' buttons are already on the toolbar. The Go to Folder button should be added, yes. No,

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:39:40 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL Same premise here. Del/up should /NOT/ display the message below it SL and the same for del/down displaying the message above it. Just SL because you have found use for it doesn't make it any less a bug. Let me post it again since you

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:00:11 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: snip KP This is handy when reading "unusual" mail that has no associated KP filter. I can click on the yellow arrow that allows me to file the KP current message under an appropriate folder, and then goes to the KP next message. CTRLC

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 14:37:40 GMT -0700 (which was 22:37 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": SL Uhm, Marck, get off your high dead horse and read the thread SL again. No need.

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 3:45:22 PM, Curtis wrote: Urhm, yes. What use exactly have I found for this bug? Stop being dishonest Steve. The bug, Allie, is not closing upon hitting the end of a list. You know that as well as I do. Stop lying

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
that, would you? Subject: Re: Next/Prev action at end of list *not* Subject: Old Del up/down bug revisited. Right. What did it start off with? With the observation from a PMMail user that TB! does not close the window when it gets to the end of the message list. What /does/ do instead, Marck

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:27:36 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 04:27 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: the weasel with me. g Why deviate the discussion and bring the above bug into the picture. Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I have indicated this both on list a lng time ago and

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:24:01 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 04:24 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: Definition time: a bug is a _fault_ in the implementation of a piece of software (the coding) which renders it inoperable or breaks design constraints within which the software should be

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:56:47AM +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: What is wrong with you today Steve? Marck is referring to the closing feature that you would like, not about the del-up bug. I'm just wondering why everyone things they are different when they are one and the same. --

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:37:46 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 12:37 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: SL I'm just wondering why everyone things they are different when they are SL one and the same. So, now you got it (unless you are still wondering g). You were been talking about something else

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Curtis
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:55:39 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: KP I'm just starting to play with TB after coming from PMMail, and one KP thing that's hard to get used to is the action of the Next/Prev KP buttons when at the end of a folder. With PMMail, the reading window KP closes when moving off

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 3:19:32 PM, Curtis wrote: KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is reached? Nope. This is just a difference in behaviour. Different clients. For which TB! is wrong for the reasons outlined before.

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 2:55:39 PM, Kenneth wrote: I'm just starting to play with TB after coming from PMMail, and one thing that's hard to get used to is the action of the Next/Prev buttons when at the end of a folder. You and me both.

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Curtis
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:30:31 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is KP reached? Nope. This is just a difference in behaviour. Different clients. SL For which TB! is wrong for the reasons outlined before. Are you familiar with the SHIFTCTRLG

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Curtis, On 09 August 2000 at 18:07:47 GMT -0500 (which was 00:07 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is KP reached? Nope. This is just a

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 06:07:47PM -0500, Curtis wrote: browse different folders from the same window. When I'm finished looking through messages, I may wish to select a new folder to browse. If the window disappears when I'm finished with a list this would pose a problem if I wish to browse

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:38:52AM +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: get back to where you were and maybe remember exactly what you were going to say and to whom you wanted to say it ... No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-).

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 16:54:14 GMT -0700 (which was 00:54 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-). SL

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Curtis
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:54:14 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-). SL Again, non-issue. Neither of you are familiar with PMMail so I fail SL to see why you're being critical of behavior you have no clue of. What

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-08 Thread Curtis
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:40:26 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP A fair comment (about familiarity). However, regarding the issue, I MDP have used e-mail clients that closed windows before I was quite MDP done with them and remember the (albeit mild) frustration that MDP caused at the time.