Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-22 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun 18 January 2004, 1:00:56 +1000, Allie Martin wrote: Mau, [M] wrote: M Yes, it looks nice. Which set is it so I don't have to scroll them M all? That would be glyphs #55. And now that I am trying out WindowBlinds, what was the skin you are using? -- Robin Anson Using The Bat!

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-18 Thread Henk de Bruijn
Allie Martin wrote: Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: http://www.windowblinds.net HDB Which font is this? Where? I don't know which font you're referring to. Sorry, to the font which is used here: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png -- regards, Henk.

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: HDB Sorry, to the font which is used here: HDB http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png It's Bitstream Vera Sans Mono http://www.december14.net/bin/VeraSansMono.zip -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-18 Thread MAU
Hello Nick, I would still like to see a customisable Toolbar Yes, I agree that would be really nice. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-18 Thread S J Love
Dear Ken Friday, January 16, 2004, 16:07 + 1100, you wrote: kg S J Love wrote: cc D Wilde (I.T. guru fellow BMW rider)...I was going to introduce the analogy of BMW bikes (highly competent but not loved by the masses) vs (say) Harley Davidsons (majoring more on form than function), but

Re TBUDL Moderators...was, re: Mod: Top posting (was: The Bat! versus others)

2004-01-18 Thread S J Love
Saturday, January 17, 2004, 06:21 + 1100, a mod wrote: snip LG moderator LG Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not LG just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have LG instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ..[name LG snipped..]. LG

Re: Re TBUDL Moderators...was, re: Mod: Top posting (was: The Bat! versus others)

2004-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
S J Love, [SJL] wrote: SJL The mods on this list are refreshingly different.! Thanks for your encouragement. We do work hard to please, and feel a sense of satisfaction when we see comments like yours. :) What you've seen is our exact intent! Have a good one. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-18 Thread Vishal Nakra
Hi Allie Saturday, January 17, 2004, 7:58:32 PM, you wrote: AM I do have the view that those who wish for TB!'s interface to be spiffed AM up, will have an appreciation for a generally spiffed up Windows AM appearance with TB! being part of the general change. Maybe for some. Lots of

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-18 Thread dAniel hAhler
on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:20:58 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: HDB Sorry, to the font which is used here: HDB http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png AM It's Bitstream Vera Sans Mono AM http://www.december14.net/bin/VeraSansMono.zip Great font. Together with your suggested Glyph set (#55 from

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Peter Olsen
Hello Allie, AM Peter Olsen wrote: PO I agree fully with S J Love about the PO look of The Bat! I have PO used the bat for many years now and I PO am very satisfied, but I PO also think TB is very dull and boring PO to look at. Of course the PO contents of the program is the most PO important,

Re[4]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Peter, Saturday, January 17, 2004, 11:10:30 AM, you wrote: PO What I would like more PO is a more spicy set of icons inside the program. PO Big and colourfull ones. I didn't follow this thread, so I suppose you already use another set of glyphs? -- Best Wishes, Mark

Re[5]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Peter Olsen
Hello Mark, Saturday, January 17, 2004, 11:35:20 AM, you wrote: MP Hello Peter, MP Saturday, January 17, 2004, 11:10:30 AM, you wrote: PO What I would like more PO is a more spicy set of icons inside the program. PO Big and colourfull ones. MP I didn't follow this thread, so I suppose MP

Re[6]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Peter, Saturday, January 17, 2004, 11:50:35 AM, you wrote: PO Yes. a set which I downloaded a long time PO ago. Maybe other ones have come up in the PO meantime?? Where can find these glyphs?? There must be more, but I can't find the addresses right now. A few can be found here:

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread MAU
Hello Mark, A few can be found here: http://www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm http://bat-mail.de.vu/tools.html And many more here: http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticlessecid=10 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread MAU
Hello malexander, http://www.wincustomize.com/ - the fee is worth it :) Yes, it seems like it is worth. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread MAU
Hello Edgar, M You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) Still MyGate is still a plug-in that does not always work good with every news server configuration. No software is perfect and don't suit everybody's needs. :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote: M And many more here: M http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticlessecid=10 Thanks for that. I found a nice glyphs set there. TB! is looking great here. :) http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) -- -= allie_M =- | List

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, Thanks for that. I found a nice glyphs set there. TB! is looking great here. :) http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) Yes, it looks nice. Which set is it so I don't have to scroll them all? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Mark Partous
Hello MAU, Saturday, January 17, 2004, 1:45:24 PM, you wrote: M http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticlessecid=10 That's the one I was looking for! Thanks. It's PowerMark(s)ed now! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote: M Yes, it looks nice. Which set is it so I don't have to scroll them M all? That would be glyphs #55. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/38 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Roman Katzer
On Thursday, January 15, 2004, 18:47:53, Darrin wrote: I'm currently tying out becky. I must say, its the closest thing to TB! Mind you, Im only on day 2 of my 30 day free trial. I started off not liking it. Mainly because Ive been using TB! for over a year now and am used to it. The more

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Henk de Bruijn
Hallo Allie, On Saturday, January 17, 2004, 2:42:48 PM, you wrote: Thanks for that. I found a nice glyphs set there. TB! is looking great here. :) http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) Me too! I would like to have the same look. What do I have to do or where do

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:51:10 +0100 GMT (17/01/2004, 20:51 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) Yes, it looks nice. I agree. Is that MacOSX look an XP theme, or is it WindowBlinds? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Allie Martin
Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: HDB Me too! I would like to have the same look. What do I have to do or HDB where do I have to go? The answer is in WindowBlinds: http://www.windowblinds.net -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The answer is in WindowBlinds: You've caused me a lot of wasted hours by pointing me in that direction :-) It's great fun to play with and there are some lovely skins around. I'm

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, You've caused me a lot of wasted hours by pointing me in that direction :-) Not only you :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MAU, On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You've caused me a lot of wasted hours by pointing me in that direction :-) Not only you :-) So Allie is responsible for bringing the world to a halt as we all try Windowblinds.

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Allie Martin
Richard Wakeford, [RW] wrote: RW So Allie is responsible for bringing the world to a halt as we all RW try Windowblinds. RW Sorry mods, I know we're drifting a bit here. Hmmm. There's still some relationship in that it's about spiffing up the TB! interface. I do have the view that those who

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Allie, On Saturday, January 17 2004 at 05:58 PM PDT, you wrote: So I think with the ability to change the glyphs, there's no need to ask Ritlabs to make things spiffy. Just use something like WindowBlinds. I would still like to see a customisable Toolbar along with some nice 'finishing

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Henk de Bruijn
Allie Martin wrote: Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: HDB Me too! I would like to have the same look. What do I have to do or HDB where do I have to go? The answer is in WindowBlinds: http://www.windowblinds.net Which font is this? -- regards, Henk.

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-17 Thread Allie Martin
Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: http://www.windowblinds.net HDB Which font is this? Where? I don't know which font you're referring to. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/38 on WinXP Pro (SP1)

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On 15 January 2004, 15:38 -0800 ( 23:38 local time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next version will have much better support for XP themes and more control over header colours etc. Would that help? D Any idea about

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Olsen
Hello there. I agree fully with S J Love about the look of The Bat! I have used the bat for many years now and I am very satisfied, but I also think TB is very dull and boring to look at. Of course the contents of the program is the most important, but now that we have some very fine contents

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, January 16, 2004, 6:07:57 PM, Ken wrote: kg Outlook would have to be the Harley of e-mail clients: big, fat, slow, kg troublesome and MASSIVELY popular. I don't think 'popular' is the word. Perhaps 'default'? I would wager that way more than half of Outlook's users don't realise they

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Olsen wrote: PO I agree fully with S J Love about the look of The Bat! I have PO used the bat for many years now and I am very satisfied, but I PO also think TB is very dull and boring to look at. Of course the PO contents of the program is the most important, but now that we PO have some

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try WindowBlinds. :) It will not only make TB! look better, but will make Windows, in general, look better. Just had a quick look and it seems great. Will give it a try. Thanks

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Darrin
Try WindowBlinds. :) It will not only make TB! look better, but will make Windows, in general, look better. I use Themexp from themexp.org. It also changes the way TB! looks. That along with some nice icons and you have a sweet interface. -- Darrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Allie Martin
Richard Wakeford wrote: RW Just had a quick look and it seems great. Will give it a try. It works well these days. Minimal interference now, hence my revisiting and now sticking with it. RW Thanks for the pointer because I also think TB! is a bit dull RW visually. I think this is the way to go

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this is the way to go rather than having each program do its own spiffing up. Yes, it's good. - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 SpamPal |

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Chris Montgomery
Thursday, January 15, 2004, 11:42:35 PM, Chris wrote: My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry keys, running system restore, re-installing Office... Sounds like it's

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Thursday, January 15, 2004, 4:52:38 PM, S J Love ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SJL I make no secret: though The Bat! (TB) has been my default mailer for SJL over a year, I have played with others, including Eudora, M2 in Opera, SJL Pegasus, (even Outlook Express and Outlook..again - VERY briefly),

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Jonathan, Friday, January 16, 2004, 1:11:28 PM, Jonathan Gennick wrote: JG Agent is really good. ... I have Agent as well for news. JG I may go back to it. Agent would have to make quantum leaps before I'd even think about using it for my email. With the filtering, macros, and template

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Friday, January 16, 2004, 2:22:28 PM, Greg Strong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: GS Agent would have to make quantum leaps before I'd even think about using GS it for my email. With the filtering, macros, and template functionality GS of TB it would be a stretch for me. I probably don't leverage half

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, JG Agent is really good. ... I have Agent as well for news. Arr! ;-) With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello MAU, On Friday, January 16, 2004, 10:44:43 PM, you wrote: With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. M You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) Still MyGate is still a plug-in that does not always work good with every news

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:43:53 AM, Allister Jenks wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, heck, neither does Outlook! It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? How does one

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:56:21 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread malexander
Hello Jonathan, Friday, January 16, 2004, 9:42:21 PM, you wrote: JG I probably don't leverage half of what The Bat! will do for JG me. I switched to it, because I needed a good email program JG that would handle multiple accounts. But it doesn't do JG news, and I do, in fact, still use Agent

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Thursday, January 15, 2004, 11:43:53 PM, you wrote: It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? Where? I haven't been able to find anything equivalent to real header information. -- Best, M-K Using The Bat!

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Friday 16 January 2004 05:39 pm, Munango-Keewati wrote:  It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? Where? I haven't been able to find anything equivalent to real header information. For Outlook 97, 98, or

The Bat! versus others

2004-01-15 Thread S J Love
Dear tbudl, I make no secret: though The Bat! (TB) has been my default mailer for over a year, I have played with others, including Eudora, M2 in Opera, Pegasus, (even Outlook Express and Outlook..again - VERY briefly), Mozilla Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird, various mailers in Linux (K-Mail,

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-15 Thread Darrin
The next version will have much better support for XP themes and more control over header colours etc. Would that help? Any idea about the approximate time for this version? -- Darrin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information:

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-15 Thread Darrin
I looked at Becky, and decided not to bother. (Apologies to Becky fans) I'm currently tying out becky. I must say, its the closest thing to TB! Mind you, Im only on day 2 of my 30 day free trial. I started off not liking it. Mainly because Ive been using TB! for over a year now and am used

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-15 Thread ken green
S J Love wrote: cc D Wilde (I.T. guru fellow BMW rider)...I was going to introduce the analogy of BMW bikes (highly competent but not loved by the masses) vs (say) Harley Davidsons (majoring more on form than function), but decided not to go there g Your position on The Bat contradicts my

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-15 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello ken, Thursday, January 15, 2004, 9:07:57 PM, you wrote: kg Outlook would have to be the Harley of e-mail clients How dare you insult Harley's in such a manner! That is, indeed, a low blow. -- Best regards, Steve TB! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-15 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:07:57 AM, ken green wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Outlook would have to be ... big, fat, slow, troublesome and MASSIVELY popular. My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes