Thank you, another question :-)
Dear Peter, Is there an another place (except %COMMENT) to put some text? Or it is possible to put text into clipboard? I want to treat some text (HTML made bu MS Word) and make plain text message from it. So I need one place to put HTML and another to pass pieces of text to another quick templates (for wrapping foe example). -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta1, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with lost messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan B. Bayer [JBB] wrote:' JBB My inbox normally has a few thousand messages. Now it has less JBB than 100 messages. Ooops! What's your disk space like? Are you short on it? Do you defrag your disk regularly. Is your system problematic in any other way? JBB I do periodic backups using the internal Backup mechanism. This is good though backing up your mail bases separately would be better. If you have an archiving tool with CLI support then you could create a batch process and use the system scheduler to do unattended, scheduled, compressed backups for you. In this way you would have the flexibility you wish for below. JBB Is it possible to restore just one folder? I don't think so. It's been a long time since I've done a restore procedure but as far as I can remember, it will only allow you to restore major components like an account/s, address book etc. JBB Can that restore be done as a merge (so that the current JBB messages aren't lost)? I'm not sure on this one. JBB If not, can I restore one folder giving it a new name? No. JBB I just tried to restore the account. It returns an error message: JBB Cannot restore message base of the folder \\Bayerfamily\Inbox I assume the restore procedure aborted at this point. This is one of its weaknesses and again why I do my own thing. From my RAR archives, I can choose what I wish to restore without worrying that a corrupt mailbase will get in my way. JBB My guess is that the Inbox folder is damaged; Before all this JBB started I got a message saying that it was damaged and needed JBB to be recovered. What can I do to fix this? In the two instances I had corrupted archives, the popup message offered to attempt a repair. It didn't work in both instances. :( JBB How can I verify that the folder is actually in good shape? The folder is in good shape. It's just that the message base in it isn't. JBB What I've done for now is to rename the account, restore the entire JBB account, copy all the messages from the Inbox in the restored account to JBB the real account, delete the restored account and then rename the JBB original account back to what it should be. This is a good work around but I would have done it differently since I wouldn't recommend continuing to use a message base that has been damaged. I would have copied the remaining messages from the real accounts inbox to the restored accounts inbox. I would then shut down TB! and go via explorer to my mail directory. In my mail directory, I would delete the .tbb and .tbi files from the inbox of the real account and then copy the .tbb and .tbi files from the inbox folder of the restored folder to the real accounts. I would then restart TB! and delete the restored account. In so doing, I now have a brand new, *undamaged*, message base in my real accounts inbox. The new message base contains all the messages from my backup as well as all those that were retrievable from the damaged base. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9YNnaV8nrYCsHF+IRAvxKAKDTiyLNcmQnIqDDeMHoWXz/jdbOKACg5gzS 3O/RDhJBeRNkOLdUxQGRs3c= =9f1f -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reply to the person that posted the message to a forum
To tbudl, I am using a reply template messages in a forum, but I fail to automatically display the name of the person that posted the message, rather than the forum name. Can you tell me which macro I have to use? The template I use unsuccesfully is: Hi %FROMFNAME/%OFROMNAME (and other macros I have tried), %CURSOR %QUOTES -signature delimiter Kind regards, %FROMFNAME The messages I receive have the following structure: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from... for... for, etcetera From: Firtstname Lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kind regards, Heijo (currently using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 ) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to the person that posted the message to a forum
Hallo Heijo, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:19:52 +0200GMT (19-8-02, 15:19 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: HA I am using a reply template messages in a forum, but I fail to HA automatically display the name of the person that posted the message, HA Hi %FROMFNAME/%OFROMNAME (and other macros I have tried), Try %OFromFName, that ought to work. You could also use %ToFName, but that should only work when you haven't checked Don't use FROM name for REPLY-TO address at Account-Properties-Templates-Reply -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reply to the person that posted the message to a forum
Hi Roelof, On 19-8-2002, 17:16 you wrote: RO Try %OFromFName, that ought to work. It does. But I'm afraid I caused this problem myself by creating a duplicate Forum contact in two different address groups. After I added an identifier (see below) to the templates of all address groups, it was easy to pinpoint the error. This explains why my modifications in the macro had no effect g! Thanks for your help anyway; I hope other people can learn from my fault. *abt* ^ = A TEMPLATE IDENTIFIER -- Kind regards, Heijo Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
still having problems with folder list
Just trying one last time to get some help on this issue. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. - I am having a problem with BAT showing duplicate folders. I have my account password protected but when I open thebat it shows my account with + next to it and password is needed to open it. But it also shows all the folders again outside of the account folder list. how do I correct this? -- Alaeddin Muntasser Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP b4 send
J I owned a pop3 email A/c (softhome.net) J but it required me to pop the a/c first b4 I could send out any email It seems you no longer use that account, but maybe it interests you anyway: softhome no longer requires the 'pop before send', now you can also use the standard SMTP Authentication using your pop3 username and password. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FAQ and Opera
DH Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so DH swell! - and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed DH in Opera than developers tell us. ACM Yes. It's so swell that it masks the fact that the FAQ page ~100kb ACM is reloaded each time you try to navigate through it with the ACM buttons. This, of course shouldn't be, since the sub-pages are ACM already loaded and don't need to be reloaded each time. well, if the problem now is just a 'loading time problem' then there must be something different in the DOM implementation of Opera, because when I tried the FAQ a few months ago with Opera 6.00 or 6.01 it just didn't work at all, and it wasn't just a performance problem. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing Emails - Some HUGE, some microscopic
GP I've registered a handful of TB! for work and home. They all do GP it. At least with Xp anyway, and the president (my dear boss) is GP giving me a hard time about it. He's also giving me a hard time GP about the Change ALL function in the spell checker failing to GP work. I left a message on this list about that as well and never GP received a reply about that either. Ah well. I would try going directly to the RIT labs tech support, specially about the printing problem, because maybe it only happens with certain printers/drivers/OS and they may not be able to reproduce it. The developers are very responsive, I'm sure they'll help you if you give them the details of your problem. Remember this is a users list, and the RIT people may not be reading your posts here. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FAQ and Opera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ricardo, @19-Aug-2002, 11:45 -0300 (15:45 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes [RMR] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie: RMR well, if the problem now is just a 'loading time problem' then RMR there must be something different in the DOM implementation of RMR Opera, because when I tried the FAQ a few months ago with Opera RMR 6.00 or 6.01 it just didn't work at all, and it wasn't just a RMR performance problem. That was fixed about 8 weeks ago and is nothing to do with DOM. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWEXPDnkJKuSnc2gEQK3OACdHOaLkgQuMuorUF2RCnbxTvMQQO8AmgLN PzxIY/xye9v0jPGPqFPvD/Un =79Bq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: still having problems with folder list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alaeddin, 19-Aug-2002, 17:39 +0400 (14:39 UK time) Alaeddin Muntasser said: ... I have my account password protected but when I open thebat it shows my account with + next to it and password is needed to open it. But it also shows all the folders again outside of the account folder list. how do I correct this? Clearly the simple approaches to solving this issue haven't worked for you. I think some clearer understandings are needed. The folders do *not* exist in both locations. The global versions of the folders are shadows of the real folders from within the account. The folder configuration data files have become confused g. This could be due to account configuration. Have a look at your account properties. Under Files and directories what is the setting? It should be default. There's unlikely to be one single move fix for this problem. What would I do? I would exit TB, use Windows Explorer and navigate to the TB mail folder. I would delete and account.flx at the root level and move any stray folders into the account's sub-directory. Then I would restart TB, check that the account's directory points to the right location. Then, if there are no longer any folders at all in the account, press Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L to restore them. That should get you right - but *do* zip up your mail folder before you start doing this! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWEoqTnkJKuSnc2gEQKYxQCgqFtAD0NE25hkWosG1/sl61rr1vQAoJJg Jr8CmBfNqeFPA7h+oM4k2Ubp =sxlo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Searching within a message,
Is there a way to search for a text pattern within a message? What I'm looking for would be something like the Find/Find Next capability of WordPad. Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Bring up the message, use control/F and control/L for subsequent finds. Elaine Hello Daniel On Monday, August 19, 2002, you wrote Is there a way to search for a text pattern within a message? What I'm looking for would be something like the Find/Find Next capability of WordPad. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Some fun with Notes
Hello TBUDL Members! For all those serious discussions lately I want to put in some comic relief. As some of you may remember one of my favourite sites on the Net is the *Interface Hall of Shame*, the best to date (to my knowledge I have to add) was the QuickTime 4.x review. Today I ventured to look into the Lotus Notes article. When I fell upon the word Geekspeak I thought I should bring your attention to this wonderful review about how to do everything wrong ... and then blame it on the user that he cannot get the technical concept behind the scenes. Oh, the developers also added in their comments that Notes is *not* an e-mail application. Go, figure. www.iarchitect.com -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. (Napoleon Bonaparte) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some fun with Notes
DH Oh, the developers also added in their comments that Notes is *not* DH an e-mail application. Go, figure. DH www.iarchitect.com it seems the domain is taken but the site is not there yet. Are you sure about the URL? -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Thanks very much Elaine. -- Dan Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:40:24[GMT -0400] (2:40 PM EDST) you wrote: Bring up the message, use control/F and control/L for subsequent finds. Elaine Hello Daniel On Monday, August 19, 2002, you wrote Is there a way to search for a text pattern within a message? What I'm looking for would be something like the Find/Find Next capability of WordPad. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some fun with Notes
Hello Ricardo! On Monday, August 19, 2002 at 10:20:52 PM you wrote: it seems the domain is taken but the site is not there yet. Are you sure about the URL? http://www.iarchitect.com/mshame.htm Seems the site sometimes has some trouble. Yesterday I couldn't access it, and now it takes forever. One has to try ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Don't let a little dispute injure a friendship. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Daniel, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 16:22:45 [GMT -0400] (21:22 where I live) you wrote: DG Thanks very much Elaine. DG -- Dan DG Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:40:24[GMT -0400] (2:40 PM EDST) you wrote: Bring up the message, use control/F and control/L for subsequent finds. Elaine Hello Daniel On Monday, August 19, 2002, you wrote Is there a way to search for a text pattern within a message? What I'm looking for would be something like the Find/Find Next capability of WordPad. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html DG Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 DG on Windows 95 4.0 Build B Just to show you what top-posting looks like with poor quoting and sig delimiters, I've just hit reply to show you what it looks like.. Answer Question Answer Question Dan, you may want to fix your sig delimiter, so at least some of the damage is repaired its dashdashspaceENTER A -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 21:27 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: Be careful with water -- it's full of hydrogen and oxygen! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @19-Aug-2002, 16:22 -0400 (21:22 UK time) Daniel Grunberg [DG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to ETM: DG Thanks very much Elaine. ... snip Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator All for the sake of a thoughtlessly formatted four word reply you've earned yourself a trouting :-). stock lecture You're using the top posting reply format, one that I find awful (but I'm feeling more like Canute by the day on that score). It is called top posting which means that you let the quotes appear at the bottom and type your reply at the top. I have many reasons to prefer the in-line quoting method: o It is hard to follow points raised and counterpoints made when they are not interspersed. You have to go from top to bottom to top again to review the context. o Following on from that, as you go through the quotes interspersing your replies and clipping the fluff, you actually ensure that all points raised and questions asked are covered. o The message format becomes a lot more conversational. o Rather than growing exponentially with each reply in a thread, the message size is kept reasonable and to the point - if the back-reference is that important, surely it's on file! o Responses have immediate context rather than being a bolt out of the blue at the top of a message making you scroll down to re-read the original - not an easy task when it's in the light grey italics I happen to use to show signatures ;-). I know there are some instances where top-quoting is necessary - particularly in dealing with a technical support department where an issue may be passed around from person to person and the entire message chain needs to be kept live. I actually have a special template I use for such occasions. At all other times, I will still champion the cause of conversational email! :-). /stock lecture As a result of top posting, your message includes all signatures and previous list footers of the message you are replying to - another no-no and this one is against the list rules. Please trim your replies. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWFYvDnkJKuSnc2gEQIdYACeJ+Wqh5jLkiCo+wbr65pysCzIcsAAn2Bj iWbe1cqGTF+YLPRuMkblJHE6 =uoMT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Hello Adam On Monday, August 19, 2002, you wrote Just to show you what top-posting looks like with poor quoting and sig delimiters, I've just hit reply to show you what it looks like.. I had to take a break from the list when this subject came up again and again and again. Maybe instructions for new posters should be posted every AM/24/7. Elaine (a top poster by preference, who has bottom posted here) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP Sale
Thought you-all might be interested: -- PGP Buys Product Lines From Network Associates DOW JONES NEWSWIRES PGP Corp. acquired Network Associates Inc.'s PGP desktop and wireless encryption product lines. Network Associates, Santa Clara, Calif., said in October it planned to sell the PGP, or Pretty Good Privacy, product lines as part of it plan to refocus on three core products, including its McAfee antivirus software. PGP Corp., a new venture whose management includes former PGP executives, developers and patent holders, said it completed the purchase of the products on July 26. The two companies didn't disclose the value of the transaction. The companies said PGP Corp. will acquire PGPmail, PGPfile, PGPdisk, PGPwireless, PGPadmin and PGPkeyserver encryption software products for Win32 and Macintosh, the PGPsdk encryption software development kit, and the PGP corporate desktop product for Macintosh. Network Associates customers for those products will be migrated to PGP Corp. by Oct. 26. PGP Corp., Palo Alto, Calif., has raised $14 million of funding from Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates. Updated August 19, 2002 4:30 p.m. EDT Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae ETM, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 16:45:43 [GMT -0400] (21:45 where I live) you wrote: E Hello Adam E I had to take a break from the list when this subject came up again and E again and again. Maybe instructions for new posters should be posted every E AM/24/7. The sad fact is, its normal email etiquette...exacerbated by poor email clients that do not bottom post by default. -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 22:27 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: The next time we elect a president, for God's sake can we do a background check? David Letterman Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
For those of you who like silly noises
Sh'mae tbudl, http://wso.williams.edu/~eudora/eudora-alert-sounds.html has a nice collection of sounds for new mail - PLUS some nice ones for SPAM announcement. As a result I now have Homer Simpson running to the mailbox with new mail, plus a You've got SPAM! vocie when email comes in from someone not in my address book. Though what really cracked my wife up is the sound I put on my Submit to Spamcop filter. I DONT LIKE SPAM (from the Monty Python spam,spam,spam sketch!) enjoy! A -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 23:19 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: One day, lad, all this will be yours! What, the curtains? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala wrote: The sad fact is, its normal email etiquette...exacerbated by poor email clients that do not bottom post by default. ... -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 22:27 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: The next time we elect a president, for God's sake can we do a background check? David Letterman Your .sig is too long. Arjan -- Hello alegraf , come and see the ultimate FREE TEEN Site! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Books
Hello tbudl, Why does the Backup function not back up the Address book? This is a MAJOR pain in my backside, after a major system crash, my whole address book went walkies, even though I had done a backup... -- Best regards, Michael Kids don't get in trouble anymore. They merely hit social speed bumps. http://.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0x3CC985FA 'To see a world in a grain of sand And heaven in a wild flower To hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour' Using Email Version 1.61 Running On Windows XP 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
archiving
Hi tbudl, I am new to the bat! and to this email list. hopefully I am emailing the right place. I was wondering about different ways of archiving email but still being able to search access the email itself. I came from Eudora and used to keep around 120 thousand emails, but trimed it all back to around 7 thousand before importing it over to the bat! I used to just copy Eudora email to another location to simply start up the second copy to search older email. and keep a zipped up copy as well. I have not tried this with the bat! as yet. So all suggestions on the way you guys handle backup copies of your email is appreciated. thanks. -- Best regards, Razgo http://music.razgo.commailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Books
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Thompson [MT] wrote:' MT Why does the Backup function not back up the Address book? It does. I've moved my installation twice using the backup feature and my address book was moved just fine on both occasions. When you open the backup tool, the items to backup are listed so you can select from them what you wish to backup. The address book is one of them. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9YZmCV8nrYCsHF+IRAhKjAJ49WlH6mjWQlbXuO8NVfDA5VbuxbACdGSLw Xh9yL553TxM0sf+UVfyQ08o= =uby/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: archiving
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Razgo [R] wrote:' R I am new to the bat! and to this email list. hopefully I am R emailing the right place. R I was wondering about different ways of archiving email but still R being able to search access the email itself. I've personally settled into using an 'Archive' account in that I created an account with the special purpose of storing archives. I can then search them as needed. I also use Mailbag Assistant, http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/, to assist me with more challenging searches. It supports the native TB! mailbase formats do I can just open the folder bases in Mailbag Assistant as needed. For backing up, I use WinRAR and its CLI support to run a scheduled batch command using the system scheduler. The batch process backs up my mail and compresses it to an archive. The archive is updated, rather than entirely remade at each backup, so it's an efficient process. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9YZs2V8nrYCsHF+IRAjklAKDltjto7fuGoAOaFVGjV7f7tCS6OQCfaEzs XJyLjdBjqYGTF4nMC72N4zo= =Ulo0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Arjan, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 02:30:13 [GMT +0200] (01:30 where I live) you wrote: AdG In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala wrote: The sad fact is, its normal email etiquette...exacerbated by poor email clients that do not bottom post by default. AdG Your .sig is too long. AdG Arjan Your quoting is excessive -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: ::20 August 2002, 02:28:: There are two ways to write error-free programs. Only the third one works. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: archiving
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Razgo, @20-Aug-2002, 11:22 +1000 (02:22 UK time) Razgo [R] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: R I am new to the bat! and to this email list. hopefully I am R emailing the right place. Welcome and yes, you are. ... snip R So all suggestions on the way you guys handle backup copies of R your email is appreciated. thanks. Some use Mailbag Assistant by Fookes (is that it?) to manage their email archives. As for me, I keep everything in TB. I have more than 250,000 messages on file and TB's searching capabilities make it a joy to use. One thing I do is to shift older messages from high traffic folders into archive folders within the folder tree to keep them out of the way. Folders start to slow down when they have more than around 1 messages in them. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWGcIznkJKuSnc2gEQLkIQCeLghRaWZ9Q/2Mj4uvnk6DPbdgjz4AniSg UnmX++0hBHr9jAU7NeVrkV+r =g7B0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, @20-Aug-2002, 02:29 +0100 Adam Rykala [AR] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Arjan: AdG Your .sig is too long. AR Your quoting is excessive moderator ... and it's my job to make either of these points. Please take it off list or risk a banning. I'll have no public brawls - I thank you :-). /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWGdJjnkJKuSnc2gEQJRGgCgxvHUqbdujiRwZlww3+gZjYmwoK8AoJ+I XrAtj3PaYBnoMyn48tGiw8hp =pgBX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Marck, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 02:36:38 [GMT +0100] (02:36 where I live) you wrote: MDP Hi Adam, MDP moderator ... and it's my job to make either of these points. MDP Please take it off list or risk a banning. MDP I'll have no public brawls - I thank you :-). MDP /moderator Just me? I notice only I get the warning? -- [20 August 2002, 02:42] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Arjan, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 02:30:13 [GMT +0200] (01:30 where I live) you wrote: AdG In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala wrote: AdG Your .sig is too long. AdG Arjan Corrected Thats what you get for storing your sig in quick templates and renaming the wrong ones ;-) A -- [20 August 2002, 02:43] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML...
Sh'mae tbudl, Seeing as there is a lot of light and heat generated about HTML, anyone else using Proxomitron on their windows boxes to kill ads and stuff? A -- [20 August 2002, 03:14] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
AR Sh'mae tbudl, AR Seeing as there is a lot of light and heat generated about HTML, anyone else AR using Proxomitron on their windows boxes to kill ads and stuff? yes, I do. And when I use IE instead of Opera, IE connects directly without Proxomitron, and I can't believe the amount of garbage I avoid using it :) -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
Sh'mae Ricardo, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 23:30:38 [GMT -0300] (03:30 where I live) you wrote: RMR yes, I do. And when I use IE instead of Opera, IE connects directly RMR without Proxomitron, and I can't believe the amount of garbage I avoid RMR using it :) Do you think there is any point of pushing TB! developers towards this - or some similar system for rendering HTML? Much as I despise HTML mail there is a great demand for it from some people - and if we have to have it, a nice package behind it verifying and validating it would be great. Basically seeing how anally-retentive TB! is in rendering received HTML, it would be very nice to see it do that magic on sent HTML. Then I wouldn't feel so nervous about it. And why am I nervous. I admin (in the loosest sense of the word, as it is with that package) 500 Exchange users. With Outlook. ugh -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 03:31 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: My grandfather invented Cliff's Notes. It all started back in 1912 ... well, to make a long story short ... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, @20-Aug-2002, 03:29 +0100 Adam Rykala [AR] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AR So hands up, it was me guv. Fair cop ... but it was a particularly attractive example ;-). Please feel free to use it whenever you write to me privately g. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWGwijnkJKuSnc2gEQJ+pgCfQv3MxqvLIiNcHGEh1FYCnHCsKZoAoKHv UqNwXuZZXbhIk6Hcda7ti3uT =v2Ba -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, @20-Aug-2002, 02:42 +0100 Adam Rykala [AR] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP moderator ... and it's my job to make either of these MDP points. ... snip AR Just me? I notice only I get the warning? Either implies both. EOT! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWGwFjnkJKuSnc2gEQIVkwCg5I0BvkqZJJ3YbyETvLahg98ZzHEAn1g1 89FTUqF8wzaqTLkfR5z8npil =Itkh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig's
Sh'mae Marck, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 03:59:22 [GMT +0100] (03:59 where I live) you wrote: MDP Hi Adam, MDP @20-Aug-2002, 03:29 +0100 Adam Rykala [AR] in MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP ... but it was a particularly attractive example ;-). Please feel MDP free to use it whenever you write to me privately g. Courtesy of my addiction to alt.ascii.art. There are worse addictions in life, but I can't think of them right now.. A -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 04:02 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, Wow! That's spectacular resolution! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: archiving
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Razgo wrote: So all suggestions on the way you guys handle backup copies of your email is appreciated. My favourite backup-method is to save the messages to Unix Mailbox format: You can do this in two ways: 1) Select all messages you want to backup and then choose: Tools - Export Messages - Unix Mailbox or 2) Make a filter rule for incoming mail that will save the mail automagically to a Unix Mailbox file. (You can find this under: Account - Sorting Office/Filters and then: Actions - Export messages to file. The Unix Mailbox format has some major advantages compared to other backup methods. Most important: all messages are saved in one (ASCII) text formatted file, which makes the backup much less accident-prone than any proprietary backup format. Second: most email programs know the Unix Mailbox format, which makes it easy to exchange messages between these programs. And last but not least: Re-importing Unix Mailbox exported messages into The Bat! is really very simple: Choose: Tools - Import Messages - From Unix mailboxes... and there you are! Arjan -- Ultimate HgH, Human Growth Hormone Booster all natural superior and affordable product9358 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: archiving
Hi Allie, Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 11:28:21 AM, you wrote: ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM Hash: SHA1 ACM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], ACM Razgo [R] wrote:' R I was wondering about different ways of archiving email but still R being able to search access the email itself. ACM I've personally settled into using an 'Archive' account in that I ACM I also use Mailbag Assistant, http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/, to ACM assist me with more challenging searches. It supports the native TB! ACM mailbase formats do I can just open the folder bases in Mailbag ACM Assistant as needed. thanks for the tips. I will check out this mailbag programme. and the using an archiving account never occurred to me. good idea. ACM For backing up, I use WinRAR and its CLI support to run a scheduled ACM batch command using the system scheduler. The batch process backs up sounds good. looks like you have this down pat. thanks for the help. -- Best regards, Razgomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: archiving
Hi Marck, Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 11:32:13 AM, you wrote: R So all suggestions on the way you guys handle backup copies of R your email is appreciated. thanks. MDP Some use Mailbag Assistant by Fookes (is that it?) to manage their MDP email archives. As for me, I keep everything in TB. I have more than MDP 250,000 messages on file and TB's searching capabilities make it a MDP joy to use. well this is good news. it sounds like the bat! handles large volumes of email very efficiently. MDP One thing I do is to shift older messages from high traffic folders MDP into archive folders within the folder tree to keep them out of the thanks for the tips. much appreciated. I still have lots to learn about the bat, but I guess thats because there is just so much to this email programme. I know it has taken me by complete surprise in all it's features. thanks. -- Best regards, Razgomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New list footer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ref Your E-mail: Subj: New list footer Dated: Monday, 8/5/2002, 05:29 AM Msg ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day Marck In your e-mail you noted: - -- MDP the footer now appears as a URL - -- A truly elegant improvement! - -- Cordially Kara[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - Build 08 (Windows ME and The Bat! 1.61) Comment: Public Key: http://home.earthlink.net/~karadenizi/pgp.htm iQA/AwUBPWG0w9eZPtS90TuQEQIyBgCfUzMGRVzxSr5An+XD65+8v6FOE8EAniLR pFmUB/yQUjnyHhxT0ElNqMW6 =xMLl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: archiving
Hi Arjan, Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 1:06:23 PM, you wrote: AdG In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Razgo wrote: So all suggestions on the way you guys handle backup copies of your email is appreciated. AdG My favourite backup-method is to save the messages to Unix AdG Mailbox format: I wondered what the Idea of using UNIX export was all about. I will try this method out also. thanks so much for the tip. thanks. -- Best regards, Razgomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New list footer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Kara Denizi [KD] wrote:' KD A truly elegant improvement! Thanks much! :) - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9YbZGV8nrYCsHF+IRAi8OAKC2QUkMyfQNzSYsGSwIfXgT0aJ5ywCfQxBM A4uGlRcpzJIrlhqKyREoMDo= =2W9F -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
RMR yes, I do. And when I use IE instead of Opera, IE connects directly RMR without Proxomitron, and I can't believe the amount of garbage I avoid RMR using it :) AR Do you think there is any point of pushing TB! developers towards this - or some AR similar system for rendering HTML? Much as I despise HTML mail there is a great AR demand for it from some people - and if we have to have it, a nice package AR behind it verifying and validating it would be great. actually, I use Proxomitron to control popups, ads, and only a few javascript, and those are controls that I think don't apply to email. So I don't see them as posible features. AR Basically seeing how anally-retentive TB! is in rendering received HTML, it AR would be very nice to see it do that magic on sent HTML. Then I wouldn't feel so AR nervous about it. about the render engine, I actually think it should be a bit less 'anally-retentive', because although I hate html mail, if those inferior creatures out there want to use it their mails, I'd like to see what they want to say :) This is in particular about the request of on-line images, I don't want to see javasscript, vbscript or any-script implemented in TB. But don't get me wrong. I understand the privacy concerns, and think any 'improvement' to the render engine should be optional and de-activated by default, so anyone uses it at it's own risk. About writing html in the TB, I don't need it, don't intend to use it, and hope the TB developers don't lose precious time with it. But I'm not that kind of people that opposes to features fanatically because he doesn't want to use them. If v2 has html writing capabilities, I won't care, all I ask is the ability to ignore them and keep writting in plain text. What others do with their mails is their problem. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
Sh'mae Ricardo, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 00:52:20 [GMT -0300] (04:52 where I live) you wrote: RMR actually, I use Proxomitron to control popups, ads, and only a few RMR javascript, and those are controls that I think don't apply to email. RMR So I don't see them as posible features. Unfortunately more and more spam is using webbugs, popups, cookies and javascript obfuscation to try and get us to buy their organ enhancing creams. Thats why I like The Bat! A lovely Spamcop report filter (and may I add a million thanks to whoever wrote that!!! - it now has a nice Monty Python but I don't like spam! sound too) and the ability to defeat all those little iFrame type nasties too. RMR about the render engine, I actually think it should be a bit less RMR 'anally-retentive', because although I hate html mail, if those RMR inferior creatures out there want to use it their mails, I'd like to RMR see what they want to say :) This is in particular about the request RMR of on-line images, I don't want to see javasscript, vbscript or RMR any-script implemented in TB. Actually I've never ever had a problem with images with it. Only if they're webbug type images that point somewhere else are they missing - and that suits me fine! A friend and I recently had a challenge of photoshopping each other into movie posters and the like and The Bat! shows his images just fine. -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 04:52 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: A morning without coffee is like something without something else. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Books
Why does the Backup function not back up the Address book? There is this Choose button associated with Addressbooks. Unfortunately, it sometimes default to something you regret! / St Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: archiving
On Monday, August 19, 2002, Razgo wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: R So all suggestions on the way you guys handle backup copies of your R email is appreciated. Razgo, I think you've heard most of the better ideas, including Allie's interesting method of using a scheduled archive operation. I thought I'd add my method into the mix because it overlaps in part some previous ideas and in part is different. For several reasons, I don't like to keep more mail in the program than I need to, so I try to keep the message base in TB! pretty small. So periodically I append the messages in some of my TB! folders into Mailbag Assistant's native archive format. You could develop a script to do that automatically, but I don't know how and don't have the need to learn. The TB! message base can be saved in Mailbag Archive's native format or as Unix file formatted files or as (I think) text files. The advantages to using this program include compression and sophisticated search, print, and database operations (and you can reply from within the program via MAPI). However, I also archive certain email on the fly. For those messages, I have filters set up which automatically append the message onto a Unix-formatted file. I can't say that my practices are any better than the other suggestions you've received, they're just what I've worked out for my purposes, which are to keep certain types of messages both archived and accessible, and to have a program or format which can be used seamlessly with different email programs. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
Hello Adam, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 03:34:03 +0100 GMT (20/08/02, 09:34 +0700 GMT), Adam Rykala wrote: AR Do you think there is any point of pushing TB! developers towards this - or some AR similar system for rendering HTML? Could you describe in a few words what Proxomitron is and does? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf Nytol Schlafmittel: Achtung: Kann Muedigkeit verursachen Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Beginners List
I noticed this reference in another thread: Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste Is there any possibility of setting up a beginners list for English speaking people? Elaine Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beginners List
On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 12:52:12 AM, ETM wrote: Is there any possibility of setting up a beginners list for English speaking people? right here is where I got started -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beginners List
Hello Dwight On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, you wrote On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 12:52:12 AM, ETM wrote: Is there any possibility of setting up a beginners list for English speaking people? right here is where I got started I did also, but I am not certain it is an opportune area of learning for beginners. Elaine Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
