Re: Undelete? Used for...?

Hi Stefan, just now (on 05/18/2005 at 01:08) you commented: Does this mean that deleted messages will be visible in the main window and identified by strikeout text? Yes, something like this... Great Stefan! -- Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP

Re[7]: Threading

Hello Steve, Where would we download this version? Is that the beta version or the current live download? It supposed to be available this Monday, but we ain't finished with fixes yet, so I suppose, the version will become available by the end of this week as a post-release. -- Best

Re: Proposal for spam filters

On Wed, 18 May 2005 01:25:06 +0200, Steve Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our spam filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The Bat!] if you have control over the emailer software used? OMG please don't! We can perfectly

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve, On Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 1:25:06 AM Steve [SL] wrote: SL In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our spam SL filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The Bat!] if SL you have control over the emailer software used? the idea might sound

Mailbase stored on Server: slow shutdown

Hello List, I've got my Mailbase-folder on a network drive on our server to be able to access it from different computers in the network. I noticed that when I close TB!, the process stays active for nearly 20-30 seconds (100MBit net). As I looked deeper I saw that TB! updates the files in the

Re: Mailbase stored on Server: slow shutdown

Hallo Martin, On Wed, 18 May 2005 09:48:23 +0200GMT (18-5-2005, 9:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M I noticed that when I close TB!, the process stays active for nearly M 20-30 seconds (100MBit net). As I looked deeper I saw that TB! updates M the files in the Mailbase bit by bit (saw it

Re[2]: [The Bat!] Tree folder oddity

The only oddity I have noticed it that if you click below (on the vertical scroll bar) or right (on the horizontal scroll bar) of the grab bar, it will scroll too far. Yes - it moves the window up a whole window depth rather than just to the bottom of the actual contents... IYSWIM ...and

Re[2]: Mailbase stored on Server: slow shutdown

Hello Roelof, M I noticed that when I close TB!, the process stays active for nearly M 20-30 seconds (100MBit net). As I looked deeper I saw that TB! updates M the files in the Mailbase bit by bit (saw it from the Modified date M in explorer) with a tranfer rate of 40-50 kBit... What happens if

Re: [The Bat!] Tree folder oddity

Hello Marten, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 1:58:04 AM, you wrote: Is it just me or is the left-hand folder view behaving oddly. I mean when it is opened so that folder tree is longer vertically than the pane and the scroll bar comes into operation (or not). It isreally difficult to put into

Re[2]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Why can't you just sort on list email adresses?!? You can not rely on each user to insert a tag - it won't work! I was not asking each user to insert a tag, I was asking the operator of the mailing list to do it. That is how Yahoo Groups works and it is very effective. I use Spamcop for

Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters

You should think about your antispam solution if its dependent on a subject tag to work reliably. It is not the anti-spam solution that requires the subject tag, it is to make it easier to manually scan for trapped (false positive) messages so they can be identified and the sender whitelisted.

Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters

the idea might sound simple and great, iow really efficient, BUT: what prevents spam from being sent with exactly this phrase in the subject? We use Yahoo Groups for the SWREG mailing list and every email that Yahoo Groups sends out has [SWREG] inserted at the beginning of every message

Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters

The best way to not falsely identify mails on this list as spam is to match the Return-Path against received lines, because all this lists mail have a Return-Path of '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and are coming from '62.80.28.8' which identifies itself as 'draenor.its-toasted.org'. You are assuming

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Steve, On 18-05-2005 01:25, you [SL] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SL In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our SL spam filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The SL Bat!] if you have control over the emailer software used? Please don't. Most people -

Special folders

Hello tbudl, I've renamed a couple of folders on my IMAP server so I can take advantage of some TB! icons: $KNOWN$ Inbox - Known $JUNK$ Junk mail Is there a special folder for virus infected files? -- As ever, .\\artin J. Webster Facts do not cease to exist because they are

Re: Re[2]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve. --On 18 May 2005 10:43 +0100 you wrote about Re[2]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters: That is how Yahoo Groups works and it is very effective. TBOT is a Yahoo group list and I've never seen anything like extra subject tags in any subject line? Just the standard subject as typed.

Re: Special folders

Hello Martin. --On 18 May 2005 11:20 +0100 you wrote about Special folders: Is there a special folder for virus infected files? $ANTIBIOTIC$ ? -- Tony. M. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Special folders

Hello all, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, Martin Webster on tbudl wrote: I've renamed a couple of folders on my IMAP server so I can take advantage of some TB! icons: $KNOWN$ Inbox - Known $JUNK$ Junk mail Is there a special folder for virus infected files? yes, $QRNTN$ -- Bye

Re: Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters

On Wed, 18 May 2005 11:45:21 +0200, Steve Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should think about your antispam solution if its dependent on a subject tag to work reliably. It is not the anti-spam solution that requires the subject tag, it is to make it easier to manually scan for trapped (false

Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Steve Lee: I use Spamcop for filtering rather than TB or any other local product as I find Spamcop usually very accurate with very few false positives but I found 24 trapped messages from this group yesterday where I might expect to find only 1 or 2 and identifying them so I can whitelist

Re[3]: Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve, On 18 May 2005, 10:49 you wrote: The best way to not falsely identify mails on this list as spam is to match the Return-Path against received lines, because all this lists mail have a Return-Path of '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and are coming from '62.80.28.8' which identifies itself as

Re[2]: Special folders

Hello Marek, On 18 May 2005, 11:30 you wrote: yes, $QRNTN$ Cheers! -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 I must follow them. I am their leader! ANDREW BONAR LAW ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server:

Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Hello Tony, That is how Yahoo Groups works and it is very effective. TBOT is a Yahoo group list and I've never seen anything like extra subject tags in any subject line? Just the standard subject as typed. It is an optional configuration setting in each group/mailing list. -- Best

new filtering bug in 3.5

I made a new filter sending new mail from my inbox directly to trash. Re-filtered. Not wanting the you shouldn't keep mail in the inbox lecture, but I had a message parked in there so another filter would not send it directly to the trash. Well, on refiltering, the parked message got deleted. I

Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Alexander S. Kunz: But then again, the antispam solution you're using shouldn't catch on TBUDlist messages... if it does, it would be interesting to see which parameter raises the spam probability level of a list message - and correct that error of the spam filter. SpamCop allows

Re: Low Quality Address Book Icons

Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris typed on: May 17, 2005 at 23:01:07 GMT -0400 C Does anyone else notice that the Address Book icons (in the left-hand C column) are a low quality when using the default theme? Yes it is a known issue. It seems to be a problem only in Windows98 and

Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Hello TBUDL, can someone tell me the shortcut to copy the message ID from the selected message to the clipboard? -- Regards,, Ralph Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Question about LDAP - a little OT...

Hello TBUDL, i'm starting to prepare for my studies abroad and try to get as much stuff online and available from anywhere i wish to (bookmarks with Spurl.net, emails with IMAP). The only thing missing now, would be to get my address book online. Could this be done with LDAP? If yes, did

Re: Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Dear Ralph, @18-May-2005, 14:18 +0200 (18-May 13:18 UK time) Ralph Inselsbacher [RI] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RI can someone tell me the shortcut to copy the message ID from RI the selected message to the clipboard? There isn't one :-(. You have to view the message headers or message

Re: Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Hallo Marck, 2005/05/18 you wrote: Dear Ralph, @18-May-2005, 14:18 +0200 (18-May 13:18 UK time) Ralph Inselsbacher [RI] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RI can someone tell me the shortcut to copy the message ID from RI the selected message to the clipboard? There isn't one :-(. You have

Re: [The Bat!] Tree folder oddity

Hello Fredrik, A reminder of what Fredrik Bergström typed on: May 18, 2005 at 10:44:41 GMT +0200 Is it just me or is the left-hand folder view behaving oddly. I mean when it is opened so that folder tree is longer vertically than the pane and the scroll bar comes into operation (or

Re[4]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

TBOT is a Yahoo group list and I've never seen anything like extra subject tags in any subject line? Just the standard subject as typed. It is a configurable option, by default it displays. Ineterestingly enough this very thread has [TBUDL] at the beginning of the subject field. -- Best

Re[4]: Proposal for spam filters

But then again, the antispam solution you're using shouldn't catch on TBUDlist messages... if it does, it would be interesting to see which parameter raises the spam probability level of a list message - and correct that error of the spam filter. Spamcop as an option takes information from

Re: Low Quality Address Book Icons

Hello Ian, A reminder of what Ian A. White typed on: May 18, 2005 at 22:29:57 GMT +1000 IAW Well, there is a distinct lack of quality on my WinXP system :-( That's odd. Most complaints have come from Win 98 and 2000 users. I wonder, given the thread we read yesterday about someone making a

Re: [The Bat!] Tree folder oddity

Hello Marten! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 3:31 AM, you wrote: Yes - it moves the window up a whole window depth rather than just to the bottom of the actual contents... IYSWIM ...and then when it has done hat and let a load of white space underneath...if you click ON the scroll bar the view

Re: Re[4]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve. --On 18 May 2005 13:50 +0100 you wrote about Re[4]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters: Ineterestingly enough this very thread has [TBUDL] at the beginning of the subject field. Only because some poor gullible soul took you too seriously :) I used to belong to a list that had

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve. --On 18 May 2005 13:53 +0100 you wrote about Re[4]: Proposal for spam filters: I get a number from users of this mailing list. Would it not be better for you to find out why they are being falsely classified as spam rather than to expect them to do it for you? Like I said

Horizontal line under account names in v3.5

Dear Ritlabs, If I can post a question/request about that horizontal line in v3.5 under the account names: how can I eliminate that? Make a poll, (I made), 70% of the users find it annoying... If it is not possible to eliminate that line, please make it possible to eliminate in the next

Re: Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Hello Ralph, can someone tell me the shortcut to copy the message ID from the selected message to the clipboard? Try Ctrl+Ins while you're in the message list :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Horizontal line under account names in v3.5

Reply to message sent 5/18/2005, @ 15:15:13 (8:15 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, If it is not possible to eliminate that line, please make it possible to eliminate in the next release. You know, I kinda like something to separate the

Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Hello Tony, %SINGLERE in your template will cure that. Or Account/Properties/Templates/Reply and deselect 'Use reply numbering in the subject line'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

On Sat, 14 May 2005 09:48:34 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. I just set one of my accounts to user without any further priviledges. I could send a new message just fine. I confirm Allister's problem. Any attempt to create or reply to or forward emails produces

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

Hello Andrew, A reminder of what Andrew Cauthery typed on: May 18, 2005 at 13:48:29 GMT +0100 AC Another thing: if I click in the Quick Search panel and press ESC the AC panel disappears. Obviously I can get it back using 'Customise' but surely AC this behaviour isn't intended? Confirmed.

Re[5]: Undelete? Used for...?

Hello Vili, One request, and please take this seriously: this feature should be able to be switched on and off. I made a quick poll on Hungarian users, ca. 50 % said it is a very good feature, the other half said that it would disturb them. Count me in the other half :-) That's why it's not

Re: Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Stefan Tanurkov wrote on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:20:18 PM (680 Beats) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Ralph, can someone tell me the shortcut to copy the message ID from the selected message to the clipboard? Try Ctrl+Ins while you're in the message list :-) This is what i get then:

Re[2]: Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Hello Ralph, This is what i get then: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]from=Stefan%20Tanurkovfolder=\xxxsubject=Re:%20Shortcut%20to%20copy%20Message%20ID?date=20050518152017size=2847uid=473 where xxx is the complete path to my IMAP folder. Such URLs are used in TB! internally for making links to

Re: Shortcut to copy Message ID?

Stefan Tanurkov wrote on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:50:58 PM (701 Beats) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Such URLs are used in TB! internally for making links to messages in scheduler and the Log file, you may easily make a mid URL out of it :-) Thank you. I found a template called mid, but i didn't

Message Editor

Hello tbudl, Is it possible to print from the Smartbat? If so, how? -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current version is 3.5

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Only because some poor gullible soul took you too seriously :) I have reason to belive I am that gullible person, thank you! Please notice that the [TBUDL] tag was automagically added to the subject line by the software I am running here on my PCs. And when replying to the original

SOT: Re: Question about LDAP - a little OT...

Hello Ralph, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 6:25:14 AM, you wrote: R The only thing missing now, would be to get my address book online. R Could this be done with LDAP? If yes, did someone try that? I would R need some pracitcal experiences and some tips how to proceed... Can you have an LDAP

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

Hello Stuart, AC Another thing: if I click in the Quick Search panel and press ESC the AC panel disappears. Obviously I can get it back using 'Customise' but surely AC this behaviour isn't intended? Confirmed. This should not be happening. It may be the intended behaviour (I think it is) if

Re: new filtering bug in 3.5

Hello Dwight, Well, on refiltering, the parked message got deleted. I ended up parked in the trash. Did the filter have a 'move' or a 'delete' action? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current

Re: new filtering bug in 3.5

On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 10:24:47 AM, MAU wrote: Well, on refiltering, the parked message got deleted. I ended up parked in the trash. Did the filter have a 'move' or a 'delete' action? I'm not sure what filter it was, and it's long enough ago I'd play heck trying to find it in the log.

Re[2]: Horizontal line under account names in v3.5

Hello Group On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 2:22:07 PM, Nick wrote: Personally, I'd like to see it used in between accounts and not as an account name underline. Well I thought it was an excellent improvement until I read your mail, now I can't make up my mind if it's in the right place or not

Re: Re[3]: Undelete? Used for...?

Hi Stefan, On 18/05/2005 02:08 AM +0300, you wrote: Does this mean that deleted messages will be visible in the main window and identified by strikeout text? Yes, something like this... Fabulous. :) I love this with IMAP. Deleting now becomes a toggle-able action. Undeleting a message

Re: Re[2]: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Hi Tony, On 18/05/2005 11:24 AM +0100, you wrote: TBOT is a Yahoo group list and I've never seen anything like extra subject tags in any subject line? Just the standard subject as typed. It was specifically administered to do that. Subject prefixing isn't an imposed feature for all Yahoo

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU typed on: May 18, 2005 at 17:23:11 GMT +0200 M It may be the intended behaviour (I think it is) if the Quick Search is M not docked with the other toolbar(s). You automatically get Quick Search M if you start typing while focus is on the message list. Try

Re: Horizontal line under account names in v3.5

Hello Nick Danger everyone else, on 18-Mai-2005 at 15:22 you (Nick Danger) wrote: You know, I kinda like something to separate the different accounts but to be honest the darn underline makes my eyes shift the account name upward into the account it's not associated with. Personally, I'd

Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters

Hello St - Musaic.Net everyone else, on 18-Mai-2005 at 14:11 you (St - Musaic.Net) wrote: SpamCop allows you to whitelist Senders, not Recipients. Its a known fact that many inferior spamfilters have problems dealing with mailing lists, yes. -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve Lee everyone else, on 18-Mai-2005 at 14:53 you (Steve Lee) wrote: I get a number from users of this mailing list That may (partly) be because server side spam killers (SA for sure, don't know about others) still handle the X-Mailer: header entry The Bat! (version_number) as

Re: Re[5]: Undelete? Used for...?

Count me in the other half :-) That's why it's not implemented yet and that's why it will be optional Oh! I'm the other half to you and I'd really like to see this feature. -- Clive Taylor Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

Hello Stuart, Try it with a docked Quick Search that is visible all the time. It still disappears. You are right. Sorry, I had not tried that. I never have it docked. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5

Re: new filtering bug in 3.5

Hello Dwight, I'm not sure what filter it was, and it's long enough ago I'd play heck trying to find it in the log. (not even at location of that machine right now), but I assume/believe it had move message to folder (trash), mark message as read, and delete message from server. I would

Re: SOT: Re: Question about LDAP - a little OT...

Leif Gregory wrote on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:16:08 PM (761 Beats) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: To date, I don't recall any free services out there providing LDAP services, but I never really looked either. If there aren't any, you're going to have to do it yourself. Thanx for your info; this

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Wednesday, May 18, 2005, Steve Lee wrote: It is not the anti-spam solution that requires the subject tag, it is to make it easier to manually scan for trapped (false positive) messages so they can be identified and the sender whitelisted. I fail to see why this would be a good thing in the TB

Re:Mailbase stored on Server: slow shutdown

Martin, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 3:48:23 AM, you wrote: MS Hello List, MS I've got my Mailbase-folder on a network drive on our server to be MS able to access it from different computers in the network. MS I noticed that when I close TB!, the process stays active for nearly MS 20-30 seconds

Re: Message Editor

[Dit is een reply op bericht Message Editor van 18-5-2005, 16:32] Hi Stuart, If all else fails, open SmartBat.TXT in your 'mail'-folder and print that. -- Best regards, Rob Mebus File(s) attached: none __ © 2005 Rob Mebus, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [18-5-2005 --- 21:04:20]

Using advanced secure methods of sending/receiving email

Hi, Perhaps silly questions, sorry for asking them ... I recently acquired a Aladdin EToken. Before with my Ikey, in the sending authentication and receiving authentication part of the transport section of a mail account I could find options such as : - Store password on the token,

Re: Low Quality Address Book Icons

Ian A. White @ 2005-May-18 8:29:57 AM Low Quality Address Book Icons mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone else notice that the Address Book icons (in the left-hand column) are a low quality when using the default theme? XP does not seem to have the problem. No one seems to have a solution so

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve, On Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 11:49:29 AM Steve [SL] wrote: The best way to not falsely identify mails on this list as spam is to match the Return-Path against received lines, because all this lists mail have a Return-Path of '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and are coming from '62.80.28.8'

Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs

Hello everyone, the helpfile says that the %CLEAR macro, when used in a quick template, clears all previously generated/created text. Thats exactly what I need. [I wanted to create a TOFU quick template for the rare occasions where I need it (TOFU is a hybrid german english abbreweryiation

Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters

Like I said before, spam very, very rarely gets to these lists so why not just add the complete domain @thebat.dutaint.com to your whitelist? T I use Spamcop and can only whitelist senders not receivers and the sender is yourself not the bat. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee

Re: Proposal for spam filters

Hello Steve Lee everyone else, on 18-Mai-2005 at 23:21 you (Steve Lee) wrote: I use Spamcop and can only whitelist senders not receivers and the sender is yourself not the bat. Well, the Sender of the list messages, according to the headers I'm seeing, is Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED], while the

Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters

Well, the Sender of the list messages, according to the headers I'm seeing, is Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED], while the From field has the address of the message author. In which case my word useage is wrong. I can only whitelist 'from' addresses I guess. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee

Re: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs

Hello Alexander, However, when I create a QT with %CLEAR as the first line and insert it with its handle in a reply, the originally generated text (with the default template) is *not* cleared. It looks to me as if the %CLEAR macro clears only the text *below* the current cursor position.

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

Hello Ian and others, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 10:03:07 PM, you wrote: This has happened for as long as I can remember. I reported it a long while ago. I think it was (and is) ok when Quick Search popped up as you typed, but if a user has chosen to have it visible on the toolbar it ought to

Re: Message Editor

SC Is it possible to print from the Smartbat? If so, how? Every Pad is a content of a file. If your Pad is called Whatever, then you will find a Whatever.txt in your MAIL directory. Open in any text editor or Word, and print it. -- Vili

Re[2]: Message Editor

Hello Vili, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 8:16:51 PM, you wrote: SC Is it possible to print from the Smartbat? If so, how? V Every Pad is a content of a file. If your Pad is called Whatever, V then you will find a Whatever.txt in your MAIL directory. Open in any V text editor or Word, and print it.