Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?
Mark Wieder wrote: What symptoms are you having when the computer won't shut down properly? When I shut down the computer, Windows 2000 goes through the usual procedure, saying it's saving my settings, then that Windows is closing down. Then, instead of closing down normally and giving me the No signal message, it just hangs, on a blackish (teal?) screen with a white cursor flashing at the top left. The only way to shut down is to switch off with the on-off switch, because ALT-CTRL-CANC won't work. However, if I reboot in Safe Mode, it does shut down properly. I don't suppose The Bat is responsible either, but the guy who installed the new hard disc said to try uninstalling and reinstalling everything to see if that fixed the problem. -- Mary -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Scopri RIS il sistema di ricarica infinita. Meglio delle cartucce, meglio degli inchiostri, economico, facile da installare e da utilizzare, solo su refill.it Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5191d=20060925 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help: Regex reply
Hallo Stuart, On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:29:13 -0500GMT (24-9-2006, 21:29 , where I live), you wrote: SC I am going to be receiving an e-mail generated from a form on a web SC page that will have the following layout: SC - SC Jim, Jones, 111 Portage Ave, Winnipeg, MB, R0G 2J0, 204-555-4463, SC [EMAIL PROTECTED], , Tech-P, Burntwood SC - I SC I need to send an e-mail to the e-mail address in the message and it SC needs to contain a login name and password. The login name in this SC case will be Jones which as you can see combines two of the fields SC and the password is . Try something like this: %SetPattRegExp='(?is)(-*\n)(.*?),\s(.*?),\s(.*?)\n(.*?),\s(.*?),\s'%- %RegExpBlindMatch='%Text'%- %To=%SubPatt='5'%- Hello %SubPatt='2', Your username is %SubPatt='3'%SubPatt='6', your password is %SubPatt='6' The above will only work when your '---' lines are part of the message, in case they aren't you should try this: %SetPattRegExp='(?is)(.*?),\s(.*?),\s(.*?)\n(.*?),\s(.*?),\s'%- %RegExpBlindMatch='%Text'%- %To=%SubPatt='4'%- Hello %SubPatt='1', Your username is %SubPatt='2'%SubPatt='5', your password is %SubPatt='5' For more detail please take this to tbtech. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgprZry9Cro1Q.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup cannot write
Hallo Mary, On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:08:12 -0700GMT (24-9-2006, 19:08 , where I live), you wrote: MJ I'm using the 1.63 version of bat! in Abacus law program. About a MJ week ago, I suddenly cannot backup. Every time it hangs partway MJ through saying cannot write [backupfilename]. Check whether you've got enough diskspace for a full backup. You're describing what happened to me and I had run out of disk space. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows '95 = Mac O/S '84 http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMfFtVvD0li.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: backup cannot write)
Hallo Mary, On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:08:12 -0700GMT (24-9-2006, 19:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MJ web site (stil 1.63). That didn't fix it either. MJ ___ MJ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Mary. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Person with a parity error between the ears. pgp4bFpxCBlLX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default outbox for common folders?
Hi All, Is there a way to determine the default outbox/account for Common Folders? The Reply header info is correctly set, however, the eMail consistently lands in the outbox of the first account created for TheBat. Details: The tree looks like @///GMX Inbox Outbox @///Strato Inbox Outbox ///CommonFolder Sub-Folder1 Sorting office correctly sorts the eMail into Sub-Folder1. I write a reply, and the Reply-To From header fields are set to the info for the Strato account, however, the Reply lands in ///GMX/Outbox. For some reason ;, GMX doesn't want to let the eMail go through and I have to manually move the reply over to ///Strato/Outbox to send it. I'm thinking that I've missed a setting somewhere, but perhaps I have to re-arrange my folders or create an outgoing rule to filter the reply over to the ///Strato/Outbox. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default outbox for common folders?
Hello David, On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:15:16 +0200 GMT (25/09/2006, 20:15 +0700 GMT), David Earl wrote: DE Is there a way to determine the default outbox/account for Common DE Folders? The Reply header info is correctly set, however, the eMail DE consistently lands in the outbox of the first account created for DE TheBat. Common Folders are not associated with any account. You need to use the %Account= macro in the reply template, otherwise the first account in the list (according to the registry) will be used. You can use a regex to set the %Account= macro in the Common Folder's reply template, depending on %OTo or %ReplyTo. Alas, I am not fluent in regex, so somebody else might chip in. -- Cheers, Thomas. Man kann es neun Wochen ohne Essen aushalten, aber dann ist man natuerlich tot... http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default properties for a new folder
Hi When creating a new folder the On exit...compress the folder box is not selected by default. Is it possible to change this default? -- Best regards, MFPA Don't cry because it is over - smile because it happened Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiplying outgoing attachments
Hello Richard H. Stoddard everyone else, on 25-Sep-2006 at 02:59 you (Richard H. Stoddard) wrote: I have autosave set at 10 second intervals; Sounds like you don't trust your computer very much! :-) maybe it has started saving a copy of the attachment as well in that directory for some reason. Check the file dates - do they differ by 10 seconds (your autosave interval) maybe? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) God is not dead: He is alive and well and working on a much less ambitious project. -- Anonymous Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default properties for a new folder
Hi MFPA, on Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:35:01 +0100GMT (25.09.2006, 17:35 +0200GMT here), you wrote: M When creating a new folder the On exit...compress the folder box M is not selected by default. Is it possible to change this default? IIRC, it used to be the default. It was changed because users with large message bases prefer to do the purging/compressing manually, when time suits. I have more than 250 folders with about 200 new messages per day. Purging and compressing takes about 4 minutes, and I don't want to wait that time when I exit The Bat!. So I like it that I don't have to remember to untick the on exit... box, whenever I create a new folder. :) -- Cheers Peter Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup cannot write
Any idea other than checking the maintenance log (I already did that) on how to figure out which of my 700+ folders is the problem or how to fix the problem? How to fix the problem is what I choose, this time. Do it (the backup) using some other, separate, program. I have another program (Vice Versa Pro) which regularly backups up all my data (including the Bat!) every night to alternating storage locations. But I've had some problems in the past getting Bat! to recognize all the folders and see all the messages when I simply copy back without using the restore function. Also, I use the backup/restore function as a crude means of synchronizing with my laptop as the synchronization feature does not work in Abascusbat. Mary ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View Threads by...
Roelof, Wednesday, September 20, 2006, 8:15:45 AM, you wrote: SPV I'd like to view some folder message lists threaded SPV and others NOT threaded. RO Create folder view modes according to your wishes and assign them to RO your folders as your preferences go. I'll see if I can figure out enough of the view mode stuff to make it work. It certainly is NOT intuitively obvious... smile Oh, FWIW, *ALL* of my current folders have (no view mode) checked when I right click the subject field and I have no view modes defined at all -- yet I still have some folders showing messages threaded and other (most of them) showing unthreaded. So, if view modes are the only way to do this, how are my current configurations working? Sometimes, I truly believe that a thing can be TOO configurable... -- Steve Vallière| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Visions, Inc. | http://www.e-visions.com 1650 Barrett Dr | Voice (321) 632-7530 Rockledge, FL 32955 | Fax (321) 632-3396 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup cannot write
MJ I'm using the 1.63 version of bat! in Abacus law program. About a MJ week ago, I suddenly cannot backup. Every time it hangs partway MJ through saying cannot write [backupfilename]. Check whether you've got enough diskspace for a full backup. You're describing what happened to me and I had run out of disk space. I've checked that too. Its a large drive with about 30 gb of free space. Mary ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup cannot write
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: TIGER192 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Sep 2006, @ @ at 05:29:36 -0700, when Mary Jensen wrote: I have another program (Vice Versa Pro) which regularly backups up all my data (including the Bat!) every night to alternating storage locations. But I've had some problems in the past getting Bat! to recognize all the folders and see all the messages when I simply copy back without using the restore function. Simply copying back will not work if we do not understand entire mechanism (or the parts involved), of how the both (various) backup programs and TBat work. For instance, in the file Account.flx (dwelling in an account folder) are names and the order of all the folders of the given account. So, if we simply copy (just) some folder back, with related message database (the file Messages.tbb), and this folder is not (for any reasons) listed in the Account.flx, then TBat will not be able to recognize it. And so on. Also, I use the backup/restore function as a crude means of synchronizing with my laptop as the synchronization feature does not work in Abascusbat. Well, might be that sometimes is better to stick to TBat's internal backup/restore machine, than to get into something new/else, even if this is more effective and safer. It's quite okay and it mostly works quite fine, and stresslessly. - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRRguLbSpHvHEUtv8AQZgxAf/eCypRiaoThPyWu/BsdZTis5FKJAlBbdb na8bPx9OoLq6prGLFEZG2Fgb0wpxj9wmw7wcIu1eHjKPgijsOymI+GRv8RESeomU vbw4dBYkh6mjgo9AS4jpehmb2y72yTeaFBicmtz8H8rTWiFQlm8/RdTqaO0X8bFB aeL7g/Szk23xHEnYNLhZgPP5SlezoRc0rDm6eaCeoeQGEa6mJmiz9Qyk2fZABsm1 3Di5jr27P4XFjyZDQR8/z0Jn9en8jK1fvoWVj/di/qxVOCeHwRtCJ6Ti2TvnCG4w IgpQRUNnh49nLdL+jGUGnvfsBdMsd0vdNZwJjmkkzeoIJynupP+kOw== =DKDO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Threads by...
Hello Steven P Vallière everyone else, on 25-Sep-2006 at 21:09 you (Steven P Vallière) wrote: I'll see if I can figure out enough of the view mode stuff to make it work. It certainly is NOT intuitively obvious... smile It took me a while to get the grip of the viewmodes. You should define a couple of viewmodes to use regularly (I have one for mailinglist folders with threaded view, one for the sent mail folder, one for virtual conversation type folders, for example). Once you've done that, apply them to the folders as you see fit, and forget about it. At least thats how it is working here... Sometimes, I truly believe that a thing can be TOO configurable... ...and I surely wouldn't want to NOT have this feature. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Jones' Law of TV: If there are only two shows worth watching, they will be on at the same time (and your VCR is on the blink) Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Norwegian language interface
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Re: Norwegian language interface
Hallo Patrick, On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:09:43 +0200GMT (25-9-2006, 23:09 , where I live), you wrote: PTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-IA5-Norwegian You sent a disturbing message to the list, as you were using a charset that I don't have on my system, I had to take some measures to make sure that TB showed me your name and subject or even the disappointing message body. PTH PTH Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: PTH http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html And please use a signature delimiter next time. BTW What's wrong with the Norwegian interface? -- Groetjes, Roelof It's not a bug. It's a seldom used hidden feature. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpbadXbeIXma.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Email using list fails if one address is malformed
I am sure it used to be the case that the following did not happen: I set up a list of addresses in the address book. When I send an email to the list (in the 'BCC' field) with my own address in the 'To' field, the email is sent to all the addresses even if one or more fail for some reason (either error in the address, or SMTP server rejects 'cos it's unrouteable, mailbox full or whatever). Now however it seems that as TB works through the list, if one address fails, the send is terminated. I have no way of knowing whether the addresses before the failed address have been sent. Am I seeing the same behaviour as everyone else? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.85.03 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Email using list fails if one address is malformed
Hallo Marten, On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:20:05 +0100GMT (26-9-2006, 0:20 , where I live), you wrote: MG I am sure it used to be the case that the following did not happen: It won't happen all of the time, maybe that is what you mean. MG When I send an email to the list (in the 'BCC' field) with my own address in MG the 'To' field, the email is sent to all the addresses even if one or more MG fail for some reason (either error in the address, or SMTP server rejects MG 'cos it's unrouteable, mailbox full or whatever). MG Now however it seems that as TB works through the list, if one address MG fails, the send is terminated. That's right, because that's the way the smtp protocol is defined (IIRC). However the address will only fail at your ISP's server when it's addressed to a recipient local to your server, otherwise your ISP will let the message pass. That's why I mentioned that you're seeing this part of the time. MG I have no way of knowing whether the addresses before the failed address MG have been sent. They won't be sent when TB shows the message still in its outbox. When it's in 'Sent messages' then it's sent, but that'll mean that any refusing messages will be caused by the ISP of the recipient, whether other intended recipients at that same ISP will receive the message is something that's up to the implementation of the server in between, not quite a TB issue. MG Am I seeing the same behaviour as everyone else? I guess so. -- Groetjes, Roelof When you go to the market, use your eyes, not your ears. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsFR8f5uEBh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default properties for a new folder
Hi On Monday 25 September 2006 at 6:16:59 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Meyns wrote: Hi MFPA, on Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:35:01 +0100GMT (25.09.2006, 17:35 +0200GMT here), you wrote: M When creating a new folder the On exit...compress the folder box M is not selected by default. Is it possible to change this default? IIRC, it used to be the default. I thought it must have been because it was only more recent folders that had it unchecked. It was changed because users with large message bases prefer to do the purging/compressing manually, when time suits. Why not allow us to choose our own default? (I mean select a set of folder properties and tick a box saying these were the default properties for subsequent new folders.) I have more than 250 folders with about 200 new messages per day. Purging and compressing takes about 4 minutes, and I don't want to wait that time when I exit The Bat!. I have less folders and about 50-70 new messages per day. The 1-2 minutes taken to compress folders before TB! exits does not bother me unduly. It still closes faster than the likes of M$ Word (-; So I like it that I don't have to remember to untick the on exit... box, whenever I create a new folder. :) Conversely, I do not like having to remember to do something that was previously done for me by default )-: -- Best regards, MFPA Lack of money is no obstacle. Lack of an idea is an obstacle. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Multiplying outgoing attachments
Alexander, Monday, September 25, 2006, 8:43:15 PM, you wrote: ASK Sounds like you don't trust your computer very much! :-) Just a habit - not many crashes on this computer, but over the years it's happened enough that I do assume it can again. ASK Check the file dates - do they differ by 10 seconds (your autosave ASK interval) maybe? Good question. Unfortunately I deleted them all. It was a 5MB photo, and had filled up most of my remaining hard drive. If it happened again I'll check save times. -- Rick Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Norwegian language interface
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:53:03 +0200 GMT (26/09/2006, 04:53 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: PTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-IA5-Norwegian RO You sent a disturbing message to the list, as you were using a charset RO that I don't have on my system, I had to take some measures to make RO sure that TB showed me your name and subject or even the disappointing RO message body. Same here, had to hit F9. But I don't think it's the sender's fault. TB should show something, even if the charset is unknown. Funny thing is, in the message list I can see the From name, but in the grey header area, it's blank. -- Cheers, Thomas. Frage: Ich installiere gerade Windows, was soll ich druecken? Antwort: Am besten die Daumen... http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
