AV DLL File
In the course of reconfiguring my AV setup, I noticed that the AV setup dialog box under Options/Preferences/Protection/Anti-Virus lists a generic DLL plug-in and reports its status as error. On the next line is listed my NOD32 BAV, which reports a status of OK. Why might the generic DLL setup be bad, and what can I do to correct the situation? -- JN Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Truncated messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Webster [MW] wrote: MW I've been using the Windows-compatible editor recently and this MW seems to be the source of my problem. When reverting to Micro-ed the MW problem goes away. I wasn't aware of any restrictions on the new MW editor. Where are they listed? Is this a known problem with the new MW editor? Yes. This problem has been reported. It's not a 'restriction' but instead, very likely, a bug. MW I posted a message on 29th but haven't received a reply. I'll follow MW up with additional information on TBBETA if that's helpful. OK. I now see the message. I'll respond to it just now, so you don't have to send another. :) - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPtqFF1fJ62ArBxfiEQLu4gCfeoZ6LwWx+Enz+OUZOeq6mwMd7/oAn2fS J9cku4gxqc31rQUlfvAO8KHn =DdfH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Hello, Sunday, June 1, 2003, 6:43:03 PM, you wrote: DJ If I shutdown ZoneAlarm, TB works fine. Now, I could think it is a DJ problem with ZoneAlarm, of course, except that it does not happen DJ with any other program (that I use) and it didn't happen with the DJ previous version of TB. You might want to upgrade to ZA 3.x. I have been running the ZA Pro 3.x and now 4.x beta, and haven't had any problem with it. -- Best regards, Kennethmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
On Monday, 2 June 2003, at 7:48:39 a.m., DZ-Jay wrote: Hello: I recently upgraded from the bat v1.61 to 1.62 and I encountered a problem (BTW, great program! still evaluating but plan on registering soon!). If I have ZoneAlarm running and try to do any TCP operation from The Bat!, it will just stall there endlessly. And here was I thinking I should be upgrading. :-O The behaviour is exactly like when ZoneAlarm asks you if you want to allow a program to access the Internet and you clicked on NO, except that it is not asking me. It sounds like ZoneAlarm already thinks it knows the program (how would be an interesting question). Have you checked through all the program definitions in ZoneAlarm to see if there is an entry that could be matching? Usually, when you upgrade an app, you get an 'updated program' alert. Perhaps you managed to bugger it somehow when that came up? Anybody has heard of this problem before? Is there a work around? should I report it as a bug? is there anything I can do? Not had this kind of problem, but am using earlier version of TB! -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenneth S. Rhee [KSR] wrote: KSR You might want to upgrade to ZA 3.x. I have been running the ZA Pro KSR 3.x and now 4.x beta, and haven't had any problem with it. This seems to be a cat and mouse thing. Those having problems with the later versions are in turn being advised by those running older versions without problems to roll back to the older version. I doubt that this issue is version dependent. It happens unpredictably and with all versions so far. It's unpredictability is why you've had no problems with all versions. Usually those without problems never had a problem. However, those who do have problems don't have it with particular versions. Let's see what happens with v4 when it's released. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPtqK8VfJ62ArBxfiEQIp1wCeLp79wqz39lCQilrbXpoZsYx/7pwAoNp4 Lx3HFwtpOpYuXRd+u2ysZGhc =fFjH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Hello Allie, On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, at 18:23:29 GMT -0500 (6/1/2003, 6:23 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM Let's see what happens with v4 when it's released. I'll watch and see what others experience with v4, but after my experience with v3 that is about as far as I'll go. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Images not showing!!
The images in HTML messages are not showing. Just blank boxes with red X's.. what is wrong?! -- CJC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Some time around 6/1/03 19:10:54, I think I heard Allister Jenks say: :: It sounds like ZoneAlarm already thinks it knows the program (how :: would be an interesting question). Have you checked through all the :: program definitions in ZoneAlarm to see if there is an entry that :: could be matching? ...SNIP! Yes, I checked ZoneAlarm's program definitions. There was the one entry from the older version of TB (set to allow of course), which I removed but still ZA wouldn't prompt me for access, and TB would stall. In any case I uninstalled TB 1.62r and rolled back to 1.61 and now everything's right again. I will keep investigating, but so far it seems that TB v1.62r has some sort of problem with ZA 2.6.362. Of course, it could be the other way around, but since TB is the newest addition to my system, and the previous version does not suffer the conflict, I am more inclined to think it is something introduced in the latest version of TB. Perhaps non-standard calls that bypass the WinSock API or something? Thanx. -dZ. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Images not showing!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Cjc, @1-Jun-2003, 20:30 -0400 (01:30 UK time) CJC [C] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: C The images in HTML messages are not showing. Just blank boxes with C red X's.. what is wrong?! Nothing! TB is a mail reader and not a browser. If the images weren't sent in the mail, just embedded links to images on a server somewhere, TB won't show them. It doesn't have the mechanism to go online and get images not included in the message and instead shows red Xs. This may not be as convenient as the likes of OE, but it is much safer, not giving unseen confirmation of reading to the evil spammer and other security holes. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPtqiyTnkJKuSnc2gEQJuWwCg3dXV5ChIX/5d8J2T6e5j7VzEnqEAoNO8 R8qiJ4w5na5ONMncF0lF0E24 =sWU6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Hello DZ-Jay, Sunday, June 1, 2003, 2:48:39 PM, you wrote: DJ Hello: DJ I recently upgraded from the bat v1.61 to 1.62 and I DJ encountered a problem (BTW, great program! still evaluating but plan DJ on registering soon!). If I have ZoneAlarm running and try to do any DJ TCP operation from The Bat!, it will just stall there endlessly. The DJ behaviour is exactly like when ZoneAlarm asks you if you want to allow DJ a program to access the Internet and you clicked on NO, except that DJ it is not asking me. If I shutdown ZoneAlarm, TB works fine. Now, I DJ could think it is a problem with ZoneAlarm, of course, except that it DJ does not happen with any other program (that I use) and it didn't DJ happen with the previous version of TB. DJ Anybody has heard of this problem before? Is there a work around? DJ should I report it as a bug? is there anything I can do? DJ Below is some environment info on my system: DJ The Bat! Version 1.62r DJ Windows 98 4.10 Build A DJ ZoneAlarm Version 2.6.362 The problem might be that ZA got confused when you started the new TB. I have run TB 1.62 and now the beta with two different versions of ZAP without a problem. But one one as old as yours. The advice to upgrade ZA is good, but here is something else you can try. First, make sure that TB is not running. In ZA, go to the 'programs' section and delete the entries for theBat! from the list there. Now restart TB and when it asks to allow it, say Yes. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Images not showing!!
Hello Marck, Sunday, June 1, 2003, 9:05:12 PM, you wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi Cjc, MDP @1-Jun-2003, 20:30 -0400 (01:30 UK time) CJC [C] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: C The images in HTML messages are not showing. Just blank boxes with C red X's.. what is wrong?! MDP Nothing! TB is a mail reader and not a browser. If the images MDP weren't sent in the mail, just embedded links to images on a server MDP somewhere, TB won't show them. It doesn't have the mechanism to go MDP online and get images not included in the message and instead shows MDP red Xs. This may not be as convenient as the likes of OE, but it MDP is much safer, not giving unseen confirmation of reading to the MDP evil spammer and other security holes. MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MDP Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 MDP iQA/AwUBPtqiyTnkJKuSnc2gEQJuWwCg3dXV5ChIX/5d8J2T6e5j7VzEnqEAoNO8 MDP R8qiJ4w5na5ONMncF0lF0E24 MDP =sWU6 MDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- MDP MDP Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: MDP http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html thanks! -- Best regards, CJCmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Some time around 6/1/03 18:43:03, I think I heard Allie Martin say: :: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- :: Hash: SHA1 :: - From my personal experience, as well as the experience of quite a few :: other TB! users, when ZA starts being problematic with TB!, this heralds :: the onset of other problems. I've never heard of a solution to this :: problem other than switching to another firewall. This isn't difficult :: since there are a lot of other alternatives. My personal favourite is :: Kerio Personal Firewall. I am sorry, but I cannot accept the (now common) solution of ignoring the problem and trying a different firewall. I rolled back to the previous version of TB (1.61) and everything works fine again. And just to be sure, I re-installed v 1.62r, tried again, rolled back to v1.61, re-tried, (sprinkled with reboots in between, just in case) and the results were consistent: TB v1.61 works fine with ZA v2.6.362; ZA detects the network access attempts by TB and prompts me for permission, to which I accept and mail is transferred back and forth. Whereas TB v1.62r just stalls when trying to access the network (while ZA is running), and the tasks cannot be aborted or deleted. I basically have to kill the task manually (using WinTop). When ZA is not running TB v1.62r works fine. I will look into Kerio or another FW, but for different reasons. I do not think it wise to switch firewalls when the only problem that ZA has given me so far is with the latest version of TB. TB v1.61 works for me so I will not be upgrading any time soon until this issue is properly investigated, identified and, if possible, solved. From other users' comments I know that I am not the only one who has experienced problems with TB and ZA. Thanx anyway for your help. -dZ. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dz-Jay [DJ] wrote: DJ I am sorry, but I cannot accept the (now common) solution of DJ ignoring the problem and trying a different firewall. You don't have to. I wish you good luck then. :) I really hope that it continues to be problem free for you and all those using it with no problems. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPtqlUlfJ62ArBxfiEQKQ+wCeLytp8A5LxOhJam11XEXu8Vh2VJYAniZ/ tWbYADesBuuYjkHJQrFJCN5t =UqD7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Hello Allie, Monday, June 2, 2003, 2:16:02 AM, you wrote: AM Dz-Jay [DJ] wrote: DJ I am sorry, but I cannot accept the (now common) solution of DJ ignoring the problem and trying a different firewall. AM You don't have to. I wish you good luck then. :) AM I really hope that it continues to be problem free for you and all those AM using it with no problems. It's perhaps worth saying that my wife has had the 100% crawl issue with ZA - and she does *not* use TB. Changing to the Sygate firewall solved this problem instantly. Paul -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
Hello DZ-Jay, Sunday, June 1, 2003, 6:13:31 PM, you wrote: I rolled back to the previous version of TB (1.61) and everything works fine again. I started having problems with ZA using TB (1.61). shrug Thanks, Terry Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
gnupg help
Can anyone give any advice on how to implement GNUpg in TB? I am struggling to work out how to install it, let alone how TB can use it. Thanks in advance, Paul Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gnupg help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, on Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:45:24 +0100GMT (02.06.03, 08:45 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PH Can anyone give any advice on how to implement GNUpg in TB? I am struggling to PH work out how to install it, let alone how TB can use it. The Nullify release of GnuPG comes with a plugin for The Bat!, so you can select it via Tools -- PGP -- Choose version. Have a look at http://www.nullify.org. - -- Cheers Peter Early to rise and early to bed, makes a man healthy but socially dead. Winamp currently playing: - silence - ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2rc1-nr1 (Windows 98) Comment: *Use OpenPGP for better authentication.* iD8DBQE+2w9bAzZSBuEHdM4RAoStAJ9WI7TszxkrcDD32Ds6xrTyeSWA2QCgqmbO uaDNZ/ox8Q9EIhoSZSVayUo= =kfUI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: gnupg help
Hello Peter, Monday, June 2, 2003, 9:49:16 AM, you wrote: PH Can anyone give any advice on how to implement GNUpg in TB? I am struggling to PH work out how to install it, let alone how TB can use it. PM The Nullify release of GnuPG comes with a plugin for The Bat!, so you PM can select it via Tools -- PGP -- Choose version. Have a look at PM http://www.nullify.org. This is the limit of my ignorance! I have downloaded unzipped it but have not the faintest idea what to do next. Paul -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gnupg help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Harrison [PH] wrote: PM The Nullify release of GnuPG comes with a plugin for The Bat!, Are you sure of this? PM so you can select it via Tools -- PGP -- Choose version. Have a PM look at http://www.nullify.org. That menu choice is as a result of a GnuPG plugin that's already integrated in the TB! executable. PH This is the limit of my ignorance! I have downloaded unzipped it PH but have not the faintest idea what to do next. I suggest trying this article I wrote. http://www.landscreek.net/gpg_pgp_tb.html - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPtskMVfJ62ArBxfiEQLA/gCgqlYWuC6emjdtJKUIV1cJm1FGhP8AnRj2 rVlgNbLtZXJzh8wuNoS6KrxJ =aaO5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB (v1.62) Conflicts with ZA (v2.6.362) (probable bug?)
To all of you having problems: just for the fun of it, enable port 113 tcp incoming (identd authentication) or set it to reject. Some mail servers might try to query identd and wait for the timeout when there's no response. This has helped my with my primary mail server and Kerio PFW. Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany I was thirsty and wanted a beer, but they only had Coors so I drank that instead. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:SOT: How to kill Winmail.dat?
On Sunday, June 1, 2003 at 18:00 (which was Sunday, June 1, 2003 at 8:00 where I am) Allister Jenks [AJ] wrote: AJ A guy who normally sends me 200k HTML emails, this time sent me a AJ whopping 1.5Mb email that had about 1.5k of text and a AJ Winmail.dat. Welcome to the world of Microsoft. AJ I can see from snooping into the file it is created by Outlook and AJ I have asked him to deal with the problem. The senders of mails with winmail.dat attachments are usually totally unaware that their mail-client is sending these. Therefore, asking them to deal with it will not usually render much result as they are unaware that there is a problem. After all, they never see this attachment on either incoming or outgoing mail. AJ However, I'd like to understand what this file is and, if AJ possible, how/why Outlook creates it and how to stop it. Outlook incorrectly assumes that all recipients you are in contact with are also using outlook. As soon as Outlook thinks it needs to send additional information with an e-mail, or if the sender adds attachments, these get encoded into MS/TNEF format which only Microsoft's e-mail software recognizes (AFAIK, I have heard that the new release of the GroupWise Internet Agent will support this, apparently Novell decided to support this non-standard attachment type to get rid of all the support calls I guess this must generate). There is a tool called Fentun (http://www.fentun.com/) which is free and which will allow you to open winmail.dat files and extract the attachments stores within it. Note that smaller winmail.dat files usually contain nothing but additional MS-proprietary mail attributes and no attachments, in which case Fentun will show now file-list. -- Greetings, Maurice Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Removing angle-bracket from quote prefix
Hello: I am trying to customize my TB installation, but I'm confused on the way that the %QUOTESTYLE macro is used and the help file is not very helpful in these matters. In particular, I am trying to get rid of the '' character, which seems to persist. For example, if I set the macro to: %QUOTESTYLE=-| like the help file shows, I instead get the prefix -|. Is this the desired behaviour or am I missing something? Please take into consideration that I just migrated from a lifetime (6+ years) of Eudora to TB! (which btw I consider an upgrade :) and that's just the way I am used to it. But if this is expected, then I'm fine with it, I just want to know if I am doing something wrong. To set my quotes, my Reply template looks something like this: At %ODateShort %OTimeLong, %OFromName said: %QUOTESTYLE=::%QUOTES Is this the proper way of using these macros? TIA! -dZ. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
