Re: Over-ride BCC from template
Hi Keith, Now, with V2, I can delete the entry in the BCC field, but when I move down into the message body, the BCC field is repopulated as per my template, and I can't get rid of it. I realize that I could work around it by setting up an alternative template, but perhaps I'm missing something? Actually, the templates will be used when you hit the body. So, click in the body first and then go back and then delete the BCC. If that doesn't work, I'll check when I get home. -- Cheers Thomas. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Over-ride BCC from template
Hello Thomas, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 2:24:32 AM, you wrote: Now, with V2, I can delete the entry in the BCC field, but when I move down into the message body, the BCC field is repopulated as per my template, and I can't get rid of it. I realize that I could work around it by setting up an alternative template, but perhaps I'm missing something? tfmgn Actually, the templates will be used when you hit the body. So, click in the tfmgn body first and then go back and then delete the BCC. Thanks for the tip. It does work, but clicking in the body isn't enough. I have to actually type a character in the body, then go back up to the header and delete the field there. It's no big deal, just that I was used to doing it differently, with 1.x. -- Best regards, Keith Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
On Saturday, September 6, 2003, 2:52:34 PM, I wrote: I wish there was a concise description of the changes/additions from 1.62 to 2.0 somewhere. Well there's only one way of finding out, so I took the plunge and installed V2. The scheduler (not mentioned on the Ritlabs website at all) is nice, as is the new editor. I was hoping I'd be able to use an external editor of my choice but unless it's a well-hidden feature it seems that's not possible yet. Now all I need is for CIFnet to get the registration key to me... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2.0 - Any word on Palm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Freddie, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5 Sep 2003 17:56:58 (my local time 6 sep 2003 02:56:58), you typed: FF Now that TB has a scheduler and FF address book, a Palm conduit for both makes even more sense. FF I'll even pay for the thing! :-) And while we're on the subject of PDA-s, how about some syncing for Symbian? I'd personally pay for a TB! version for the Nokia 9210I communicator.:-) - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.0 Beta/1, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/WbWzODlJeoMTOQsRAvdhAJ46paRLsPR3qzc1txdKKDREdDiBjACcDKgs lSU/iVb55b65E5TxeEffoac= =a4aO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2.0 - Any word on Palm?
On Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 1:56 AM, Freddie wrote: Just wondering if, in developing v.2, any thought was given to a Palm conduit for the address book? Now that TB has a scheduler and address book, a Palm conduit for both makes even more sense. I'll even pay for the thing! :-) I'd pay a lot for the thing! What I'd pay even more for would be a mini-version of TB to run on the Palm. :) I'm about to buy a Palm, and the one thing that's kept me from getting it is that I haven't had the time to research e-mail programs for the Palm. Isn't TB written in Delphi? If so, and anyone is interested, this is from Sourceforge and had activity on the project just last month. http://sourceforge.net/projects/delphi-conduits/ The Delphi Palm Conduit Library provides a library for simplifying the development of Palm conduits using Borland Delphi 4 - 7. It provides a simplified mechanism for creating the conduit DLLs and manipulating Palm tables Unfortunately my programming skills are very limited. http://www.emailman.com/palm/ This site may have some answers. I haven't had time to explore all the links, but there are some interesting ones, like the Eudora one. Eudora Mail Conduit for Palm will synch your Palm with your desktop e-mail application! (free mode supports synching with desktop Eudora; paid mode supports synching with other desktop e-mail applications). Don't know if any of that really helps, but -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My new 20 lines filter
Hi Mark, @5-Sep-2003, 20:34 -0700 (04:34 UK time) Mark Wieder [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PR ...sometimes the mod's make an actual contribution to the PR discussion in the same message... MW Ouch. Ouch. MW Yo mods - I feel your pain... moderator [sniffs] and shuffles, now with a noticeable stoop, through the remainder of his Inbox as the rain starts to fall. /moderator -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My new 20 lines filter
Saturday, September 6, 2003, 4:34:45 AM, Mark wrote: MW Ouch. Ouch. MW Yo mods - I feel your pain... Good grief..!!! They'll be carrying bells soon and calling Unclean Unclean as they trawl these lists! Poor Mods - what it must be to feel s unwanted/unloved! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Over-ride BCC from template
You have to delete the bcc field immediately before hitting send. It's annoying. KK Thanks for the tip. It does work, but clicking in the body isn't KK enough. I have to actually type a character in the body, then go back KK up to the header and delete the field there. It's no big deal, just KK that I was used to doing it differently, with 1.x. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Sorry for the chopped response masks, they got lost and I am on the last day of my unpaidv2... Now paid and waiting for the keys, thanks Thomas... Anyway, Zonealarm on my machine, with lots of crap loaded, using the bat, running for many hours at a time, often all night using Kazaa, I havent seen any problems. I use Xp Pro... tracer Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Expand all threads command?
Hi Bats, How does one expand/contract all the threads in the subject view window? I have used the Ctrl+A, then the Alt +/- but I wonder if there's a way to set the whole thing to always display the expanded threads? Thanks in advance, Maggie -- mm mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Friday, September 5, 2003, 11:52:34 PM, you wrote: On Saturday, September 6, 2003, 9:54:29 AM, Jack Morrison wrote: But having the scheduler a part of TB finally allowed me to remove Outlook 2002 from my system. The only reason it was still there was because I still used its Calendar, To-Do, etc. functions. Is that what it does? Yup. I wish there was a concise description of the changes/additions from 1.62 to 2.0 somewhere. Make that two of us. Plus a central location for gathering information on innovative ways to actually use some of these features. Many of TB's features go unused by me because: 1. I don't even know some of them are there 2. I don't know how to put them to good use -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam plugin download location ?
Hello thebat, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 2:12:12 PM, you wrote: tdc Hi everyone, tdc I'm just wondering where I could find a spam plugin for my newly upgraded tdc TheBat 2.0. tdc Can anyone tell me? Antispam filter BayesIt! 0.4dm (macro version) http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04dm.zip Changes are: - Learnengine.exe excluded (whole filter is located in baes.tbp, via Configure button in The Bat!) - a bug causes BayesIt! to stuck if the size of a dictionary was less than 800kb (5 tokens) fixed. - a bug causes BayesIt! to AV when The Bat! was exited before regarding base was loaded - as in 04cmacro - two marcoses realized: %Bayesbase - shows the numbers of active tokens in the base, or 0 if base is not loaded yet, and %Spaminess(word) - retrieve the spam level of word (0 - not found in the active base, 0.1 - not spam, 0.99 - spam). Still doesn't work (will be realized shortly): - it is impossible to have more than 64k letters in a corpus - autoskip already trained letters when restarting learning (it is still necessary now to run clear.bat as runaround) -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in private mailing. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Polish The Bat! mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBUDL mailing list. Using The Bat! v2.00, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam plugin download location ?
Hello ArchY, Thursday, September 4, 2003, 7:07:28 AM, you wrote: A This pluggin (bayesit04c make me a c++ runtime error when I execute A the learning engine, the same error occure with the 04b version... A Have you already meet this problem ? Antispam filter BayesIt! 0.4dm (macro version) http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04dm.zip Changes are: - Learnengine.exe excluded (whole filter is located in baes.tbp, via Configure button in The Bat!) - a bug causes BayesIt! to stuck if the size of a dictionary was less than 800kb (5 tokens) fixed. - a bug causes BayesIt! to AV when The Bat! was exited before regarding base was loaded - as in 04cmacro - two marcoses realized: %Bayesbase - shows the numbers of active tokens in the base, or 0 if base is not loaded yet, and %Spaminess(word) - retrieve the spam level of word (0 - not found in the active base, 0.1 - not spam, 0.99 - spam). Still doesn't work (will be realized shortly): - it is impossible to have more than 64k letters in a corpus - autoskip already trained letters when restarting learning (it is still necessary now to run clear.bat as runaround) -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in private mailing. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Polish The Bat! mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBUDL mailing list. Using The Bat! v2.00, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Jack, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 7:56:16 AM, you wrote:== Make that two of us. Plus a central location for gathering information on innovative ways to actually use some of these features. Many of TB's features go unused by me because: 1. I don't even know some of them are there 2. I don't know how to put them to good use I think the release of 2.0 was quite premature. The upgrade policies seem to differ, depending on who you contact. The documentation of the new features, if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent. Perhaps they should have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules and leaving features and documentation incomplete. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand all threads command?
mm, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:46:00 AM, you wrote:== Hi Bats, How does one expand/contract all the threads in the subject view window? I have used the Ctrl+A, then the Alt +/- but I wonder if there's a way to set the whole thing to always display the expanded threads? Thanks in advance, Maggie Try CtrlNumPad * for all threads, CtrlNumPad + for the selected thread, and CtrlNumPad - to close. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Steve Mary King wrote: The documentation of the new features, if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent. Perhaps they should have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules The documentation for 1.6 is similarly very poor, so I don't think schedules are an excuse for that aspect of TB's shortcomings. -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes
Marck, On 06-09-2003 01:43, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M Your experience is not the norm. Most people report speed M improvements Fair enough, but it's _still_ slower here so for me it's not much of an improvement. M IIRC you have fairly high numbers of messages in your folders. Yes. M Compress often and try to split big folders into archive and current M folders so that the greater quantity of messages stay out of the way M and the frequently accessed folders are kept leaner. I know. Having done that, there is no real difference. TBUL-folder now contains less than 20,000 messages. And it's still way slower than 1.63 B/9 with 50,000 messages. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
2.00: bug in Scheduler
TheBat-users, The scheduler reminder is messed up here. http://www.fjelsten.dk/thebat.gif I think large fonts is the culprit. Had the same problems when I ran 1600*1200 32 bit as not 1280*960 32 bit. Matrox G-550. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expand all threads command?
Hello Steve, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 11:13:12 AM, you wrote: SMK SMK, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:46:00 AM, you wrote:== Hi Bats, How does one expand/contract all the threads in the subject view window? I have used the Ctrl+A, then the Alt +/- but I wonder if there's a way to set the whole thing to always display the expanded threads? SMK Try CtrlNumPad * for all threads, CtrlNumPad + for the selected SMK thread, and CtrlNumPad - to close. Thanks, Steve. The NumPad command caused me to pause since I use a laptop as my main machine. So, the command for this model of toshiba would be CtrlFnNumPad * The NumPad * on my machine is the 0 (zero) key. I notice that the threads need to be expanded every time TheBat! is booted. Is there a way to set a default on this? Thank you, Maggie -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving between messages
I normally use CTRL-right arrow to move through the unread messages, and SPACE to scroll down long ones. But how do I go back when my fingers have been faster than my brain? There don't seem to be keyboard shortcuts that reverse the process (i.e. go to last message read, even if in different folder, or scroll back up) - or I haven't found them! Has anyone else? Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand all threads command?
mm, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 9:14:52 AM, you wrote:== I notice that the threads need to be expanded every time TheBat! is booted. Is there a way to set a default on this? Thank you, Maggie From what the discussions have said, I don't think so. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Saturday, September 6, 2003, 3:56:16 PM, Jack wrote: I wish there was a concise description of the changes/additions from 1.62 to 2.0 somewhere. JM Make that two of us. How about this one? It's not exactly concise but it's pretty comprehensive and is worth a look through! It's taken from the Readme.txt file which is included with v2.0 on installation: (BTW there is a concise summary on the Ritlabs website here: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ ) What's new in The Bat! 2.00? [ Legend: ] [ + Added feature] [ * Improved/changed feature ] [ - Bug fixed (we hope) ] [!] Fully reworked true IMAP support [!] PGP/MIME support added, so it is now possible to send PGP signed/encrypted files without hassle [!] An ability to send out messages in HTML format [!] Built-in support for PGP v6-8 [!] Completely rewritten preview pane with more sensible options [!] Universal interface for handling signed/encrypted messages - no matter which system is used [!] Scheduler is now available in the SmartBat window or by pressing Alt+F6 [+] Possibility to use an alternative editor using the Message Editor Options|Message format menu options[+] Check Spelling before Send/Queue option in the message editor [+] Specials|Remind later menu for setting message reminders [-] Specials| Create Filter (Shift-Ctrl-F) didn't work when message auto-view was turned off. [-] The Bat! didn't support the SMIMEEncryptionKeyPreference S/MIME attribute and thus was unable to verify digital signatures made by Outlook XP. [-] SmartBat contents wasn't saved when exiting The Bat! with open SmartBat. [-] Fixed some incompatibilities with RFC2797 (Certificate Management Messages over CMS). [-] There was an action in sorted/office filters which was logged as an error and caused an exclamation sound. [*] In case of CRAM-MD5 authentication failure on SMTP, there is a fallback to less secure authentication mechanisms, unless Require secure authentication option is checked. [-] Fixed a bug in Message Redirect command with inserting the redirector's Reply-To information into the redirected message if the original message didn't have the Reply-To field set. [-] Removed flickering in the About box when the credits are scrolled. [+] Possibility to choose MailTicker folders at once by right clicking on the MailTicker. [-] Attachments were not deleted from the attachments directory when they were deleted from the Trash folder. [-] TLS error messages weren't logged. [-] Sender was added to the address list in Reply To All command. [-] Change of Account/Folder directory and removal of account files wasn't handled gracefully. [-] The Bat! didn't properly support Serbian Cyrillic. [*] More diagnostic information is given when reporting error in displaying html. [-] A work-around for the WinSock buffer overrun bug. [-] Parameter SELECTED was ignored in SELECT tag of HTML messages. [*] The Bat! issues 'RSET' SMTP command after each message sent to prevent subsequent message to be send to addressees of a previous message on some odd servers. [+] Forwarded flag can be used in the View|Display|Advanced filtering. [-] Local delivery was working only for one message per address. [-] Some problems with splitters. [-] Address books were not restored correctly for fresh installations. [-] Messages restored from parts were not checked for viruses.[*] Folders are now stored in new format (ACCOUNT.FLD), which should be more safe for networking and system crashes [*] Some CSAPI engines (like Czech, Slovak, maybe Polish and others) are handled more precisely [*] Windows editor: sticky setting, spell checking, search/replace [*] A possible work-around for some CSAPI spell checking dictionaries [-] Folders were not correctly created automatically when a message-based filter was created (Specials|Create filter) (introduced in 1.63 Beta/1) [-] Even Quoted text color/style was not remembered (introduced in 1.63 Beta/3) [-] Some cosmetic fixes to the new preferences dialogue [*] Windows plain text editor now wraps text in a more comfortable way :-) [*] SmartQuoting algorithm is improved a bit. [-] New Accounts did not keep properties (bug introduced in 1.63 Beta) [-] Reply to Sender was erroneously using the Sender message field instead of From [*] Display name for address book editing is now done is another way [-] Search for whole words was not working correctly is text was starting with a searched word(s) [-] Wrong account could be used for reading confirmation message if a message from a different account was selected prior to RC creation [-] Access Violation when the common Trash folder was deleted [-] Email addresses with a ' were not highlighted correctly [-] Menu Navigator did not change language before its reset or program restart [-] URLs were not functioning in SmartBat [+] More access options for accounts with user rights. [+] Ctrl+Ins in a message list copies URLs (in msgid: form) of selected messages
Re: Moving between messages
Hello Günter, On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 02:20:56 +1000 GMT (06/09/2003, 23:20 +0700 GMT), Günter Minnerup wrote: But how do I go back when my fingers have been faster than my brain? alt+leftArrow -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. - THE HOTEL HAS BOWLING ALLEYS, TENNIS COURTS, COMFORTABLE BEDS, AND OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Paul, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 8:26:52 AM, you wrote:== Steve Mary King wrote: The documentation of the new features, if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent. Perhaps they should have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules The documentation for 1.6 is similarly very poor, so I don't think schedules are an excuse for that aspect of TB's shortcomings. We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03. We moved from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor documentation were driving me nuts. Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power, so I decide to switch. I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days. Sigh!!! Maybe I'll retry Becky. I handle software switches quite easily, but my wife will go nuts learning another interface after she just got comfortable with this. She got quite upset with the icon switch in 2.0, so I had to install the old icons. Another sigh!!! Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 2:00:46 AM, Anne wrote: How about this one? It's not exactly concise but it's pretty comprehensive and is worth a look through! It's taken from the Readme.txt file which is included with v2.0 on installation: It's mainly a list of bug fixes from the beta programme. The scheduler is mentioned but nothing about what it does (the website doesn't even mention it at all). In any case, you only get this once you've installed V2. I would have thought it useful to tell people what it can do before they install it. Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving between messages
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 2:25:11 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: alt+leftArrow Useful, thanks! And now for the reverse scrolling... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving between messages
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 2:25:11 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: alt+leftArrow Second comment (sorry): you mean the go back is ALT, the go forward CTRL? Would have made more sense to go back with CTRL-leftArrow? Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Saturday, September 6, 2003, 5:40:34 PM, Günter wrote: GM It's mainly a list of bug fixes from the beta programme. The scheduler is mentioned GM but nothing about what it does (the website doesn't even mention it at all). GM In any case, you only get this once you've installed V2. I would have thought it GM useful to tell people what it can do before they install it. It's actually more than just bugfixes - but is, as you say, there after installation - so making it available to anyone interested may serve a purpose. ;-) The website does mention the Scheduler - from the page I posted the link to: # Scheduler notifies about upcoming events, postponed messages and performs other automated tasks; -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Saturday, September 6, 2003, 5:29:23 PM, Steve wrote: SMK We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03. We moved SMK from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor SMK documentation were driving me nuts. Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power, SMK so I decide to switch. I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial SMK period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days. Perhaps these would be useful - assuming you've not found them already...? Welcome to the Bat Beginners MFAQ (Most Frequently Asked Questions) http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbmaq.htm then there's this one: The Bat FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html and a new bit (still in its infancy and awaiting more How To's) The Bat! Beginners Zone http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/beginners/ -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Hello Peter, PF http://www.fjelsten.dk/thebat.gif This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Hello Jack, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 10:56:16 AM, you wrote: I wish there was a concise description of the changes/additions from 1.62 to 2.0 somewhere. JM Make that two of us. There is a readme.txt file with the 2.0 install that gives the history of changes from as early as ver 1.00.17 -- Jim pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Moving between messages
Hello Günter, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 12:45:20 PM, you wrote: GM Second comment (sorry): you mean the go back is ALT, the go GM forward CTRL? Would have made more sense to go back with GM CTRL-leftArrow? Actually Ctrl+Arrows are used for moving to next/previous unread message. Alt+Arrows are used for moving to next/previous viewed message. This is how they are described in the pop-up menus :-) Ctrl+Alt+Arrows should be used to move to unread messages when the preview pane is selected. This is because Ctrl+Arrows are used for moving between words... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Hello Stefan, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:17:08 PM, you wrote: ST Hello Peter, PF http://www.fjelsten.dk/thebat.gif ST This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... Darn, I grabbed 2 yesterday :) Sean -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net BBS: tcob1.thebbs.org 1800- GMT THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes
06-Sep-2003 01:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, the many of the new features are buggy to a degree, but *many* v1 bugs are *gone*. That's very important. Wouldn't you agree with me that a bugfix for v1 is something entirely different than a v2 with new features? (and new bugs, humho) Let me get this straight - in order to have bugfixes for v1 (which I don't need, as far as I can tell none of the v1 bugs concern me right now) I have to pay the update to v2, which introduces new features with new bugs (both which I don't need, needless to say). The other thing is, according to batworld.de, users who registered 1.x between 7-Oct-2002 and 5-Jan-2003 are entitled a free update to 2.x - the others are not. Because, during that time, Ritlabs had an anouncement on their webpage that the 2.x update would be free. Haha, imagine you are the lucky one who registered 6-Jan-2003... or 26-Jan-2003, like me. To make it clear - I don't want v2 right now, I don't need v2 right now. But that update policy and stuff, I beg your pardon, just *stinks*. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving between messages
On Saturday, September 6, 2003, 19:21:44, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Ctrl+Alt+Arrows should be used to move to unread messages when the preview pane is selected. This is because Ctrl+Arrows are used for moving between words... Could you make Ctrl+Arrows work when RTV is used? There isn't any cursor displayed there, so this shouldn't interfere... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ The illness you come down with is the one ailment not covered under your insurance policy. -- Paul's Law of Group Insurance Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Saturday, September 6, 2003, 12:16:25 PM, you wrote: Hello Jack, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 10:56:16 AM, you wrote: I wish there was a concise description of the changes/additions from 1.62 to 2.0 somewhere. JM Make that two of us. There is a readme.txt file with the 2.0 install that gives the history of changes from as early as ver 1.00.17 James, I think his point was that it's not available until *after* you buy v2.0. The description of the new scheduling feature, for example, just doesn't do it justice. Anyway, that's always been TB's major flaw -- the lack of adequately descriptive documentation. Using TB is like dating a gorgeous woman who's afraid to take off her clothes with the lights on. ;) -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:2.00: bug in Scheduler
Good evening Sean Rima ! On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:32:08 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 06.09.2003, 19:32 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Sean Rima) wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Darn, I grabbed 2 yesterday :) *argghh* I d/loaded this afternoon and it is Version 2.00 So, where did you find the 2.00.1?? -- Best regards, Gerd === Tutorial for using regular expressions with TheBat! www.regenechsen.de --- People with narrow minds usually have broad tongues. --- now playing: WDR2 :-) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Stefan, On 06-09-2003 19:17, you [S] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: S This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... The about box says 2.00.6 When will you sort out all the wrong Educational licenses you sent out? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerd, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:44:07 PM, you wrote: GE Good evening Sean Rima ! GE On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:32:08 +0100 GMT your local time, GE which was 06.09.2003, 19:32 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Sean Rima) GE wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Darn, I grabbed 2 yesterday :) GE *argghh* I d/loaded this afternoon and it is Version 2.00 So, where GE did you find the 2.00.1?? Even better, the subversion on this on from the ritlabs site is 2.00.6 :) Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net BBS: tcob1.thebbs.org 1800- GMT THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. Usign TheBat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/Wh8AHMnSWn2nApQRAjG3AJ9iYP36Wo7xDdPMUGCMha1CIf6J3ACfTbFV bylMdFafTAFqQthEKkDyOl0= =ZxSH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre grabs full screen
Hi Bat! Fans, In V 2.0, my Connection Centre grabs full screen. I would like to see it just as a window against the Bat! as per 1.62r. I have tried clicking all the top rhs icons, and apart from minimising the Connection Centre to the tool bar, nothing much else happens. Is there a setting here I should be looking for? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 186,000 miles/sec: Not just a good idea, it's the LAW. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre grabs full screen
Hi John, JP In V 2.0, my Connection Centre grabs full screen. My 2.0 CC works as before, a normal window. -- Caio, Christopher Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Regex-Tutorial Update
Good evening Batsmen, I just want to let you know that I updated the Regex-tutorial on http://www.regenechsen.de/regex_en/regex_1_en.html and -of course- there is a PDF-download available. Together with Marck who helped me with the translation I added some regex-examples. Thanks to Marck who made this newer version possible. If you have any suggestions feel free to write via PM. THX. -- Best regards, Gerd == Tutorial for using regular expressions with TheBat! www.regenechsen.de The 4 Basic Food Groups: Ice Cream, Pizza, Coke and Women. now playing: WDR2 :-) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Jack Morrison wrote... There is a readme.txt file with the 2.0 install that gives the history of changes from as early as ver 1.00.17 James, I think his point was that it's not available until *after* you buy v2.0. The description of the new scheduling feature, for example, just doesn't do it justice. Or you can use a third party application, such as WinAce, or maybe WinRAR to open the install program to get to it, or just install the demo. However I do agree, it should certainly be easier to get to that kind of information. Using TB is like dating a gorgeous woman who's afraid to take off her clothes with the lights on. ;) *grins* nice analogy ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) This space intentionally left blank. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1onIyuD6BT4/R9zEQL7fACcDfgebmCkwxyndHqgxqdCdp7DzWwAniQ7 WPMuRuH/pCQjuWQTJhXLaCHK =Z6qN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Regex-Tutorial Update
Hello Gerd, I just want to let you know that I updated the Regex-tutorial on http://www.regenechsen.de/regex_en/regex_1_en.html and -of course- there is a PDF-download available. Thanks! -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Steve Mary King wrote: We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03. We moved from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor documentation were driving me nuts. Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power, so I decide to switch. I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days. I sympathise. I too am a refugee from another program, and haven't even been using TB as long as you. Powerful it may be, but what's the use if a substantial part of that power is undocumented. It's pretty shabby, IMO. Without the kind help of this list, I would probably have given up on TB by now. -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and subfolders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, September 05, 2003, Brian S. Schang wrote... I have a similar structure and in my case they could contain messages, because they are regular folders, but they are empty... which doesn't bother The Bat! at all. :-) Why not do it that way? I'm going to show my ignorance here ... I'm not sure how to do that. Even when I create a subfolder within The Bat!, it shows up as a directory in my file system. It's my understanding (maybe erroneously) that not all implementations of IMAP allow for folder to contain messages themselves?? I'm using the University of Washington version that ships with Red Hat 7.2. That's not an erroneous statement at all. In fact, a very valid statement. This is why their is a \NoSelect option to reflect that the folder may not be selected, and may not contain mail. Does anyone know how to set up folders to contain messages themselves? Indeed this would solve my problem, and would even make my folder structure more flexible. :-) If you cannot setup folders to contain mail, then you are indeed looking at a bug in the implementation of the IMAP protocol. I believe Stefan is probably already working on it based on his comments earlier in this thread. It should be interesting to see how he manages to work out what IMAP servers require you to put in the folder delimiter to make folders that may contain subs, and normal mail folders. I think there may be a hint in the RFCs for it, I'd have to look it up. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Press any key to continue or any other key to quit -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1osHCuD6BT4/R9zEQICOwCg95O0wnewBxnmiIKITQFUPDBEzIAAn2IU f/1tww0PnWRg0j19TjSWsxPc =5l8n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2.0 - Any word on Palm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Terry wrote... Isn't TB written in Delphi? Correct :) If so, and anyone is interested, this is from Sourceforge and had activity on the project just last month. http://sourceforge.net/projects/delphi-conduits/ The Delphi Palm Conduit Library provides a library for simplifying the development of Palm conduits using Borland Delphi 4 - 7. It provides a simplified mechanism for creating the conduit DLLs and manipulating Palm tables I was actually looking at that project myself last week while looking for some project management software for my palm, I might look into it as I used to program in delphi at my last job. Eudora Mail Conduit for Palm will synch your Palm with your desktop e-mail application! (free mode supports synching with desktop Eudora; paid mode supports synching with other desktop e-mail applications). If that is the version actually made by Eudora, you have a bunch of requirements, like it doesn't work on my palm because mine has a proper wireless aerial built in (Palm VIIx), and it doesn't work with that. If I was to go out and buy a modem for my palm, I'd be able to, but I didn't really see the need for a modem, _and_ a wireless service. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1otQiuD6BT4/R9zEQLF2ACgnp307OWggobo6VzZcEXoemkELqkAoLtQ paGc5kyZoXMg7YiwDspq7T1o =Dssh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
At 2:48 PM on 9/6/2003, Paul Richardson typed ... P I sympathise. I too am a refugee from another program, and haven't even P been using TB as long as you. Powerful it may be, but what's the use P if a substantial part of that power is undocumented. It's pretty P shabby, IMO. Without the kind help of this list, I would probably have P given up on TB by now. I guess it all comes down to a willingness on the user's part, after recognizing the power of the software and the limitations of the documentation, to decide if it's worth the WORK (and yes, it is work) to learn how the application functions. For me, the answer was easy. TB is so powerful, so adaptable, so configurable, and so full of features that I can't live without that I'm willing to spend the time needed to learn how it works. I've been using TB since early version 1 and it takes no more than a glance at other products' feature sets to convince me that they might be prettier or better documented, but they will also be disappointing. Documentation has always been the weakest part of the application; I, too, hope that changes. If it doesn't, TBUDL does a fine job. In the final analysis, I'd prefer that RIT Labs spend limited resources on continuing to develop the best MUA on the planet even if that means documentation doesn't get done. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/6/2003 at 2:51 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. -- Will Rogers Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: same old problem: disappaering folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, September 05, 2003, Luc wrote... again the same old thing: lost a bunch of my folders. They are on my system, but doN't show up anymore in TB!. I already deleted the .tbi files but still no go. What was the solution? The .tbi files are the mail folder indexes. Removing them won't rediscover the folder, but will remove all special flags on the mail (unless IMAP), such as deleted, replied, and any notes you may have attached to the emails. As Marck has said, CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L while you have the folder menu selected. Somebody did mention in one of the betas, that having a common folder selected fails, but if you have an account selected, and use the key combo, it should work. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I forget the dream, but I'm missing a pajama button... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1oudCuD6BT4/R9zEQJ7HgCfV42XqdfZeOs9GnPWj4b/kzf4t+QAoPbY dVxs/wSJ+sc9G6spwssiQXfK =2/O7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat will no longer launch without /nologo
Hi all, This is an odd one. I've just upgraded to the latest version of TB! It worked perfectly. I then installed the international pack and selected use multilingual interface and British English spelling. If I try to launch TB! without the /nologo option the splash screen appears and disappears but no TB! Running on WinXP Pro, Bayesit0.4dm installed and nothing else running. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Bat will no longer launch without /nologo
Good evening Jamie Dainton ! On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:05:15 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 06.09.2003, 21:05 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Jamie Dainton) wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is an odd one. I've just upgraded to the latest version of TB! It worked perfectly. I then installed the international pack and selected use multilingual interface and British English spelling. If I try to launch TB! without the /nologo option the splash screen appears and disappears but no TB! Running on WinXP Pro, Bayesit0.4dm installed and nothing else running. W2K, Version 2.00: No Problem here. It still works, only that I used capital letters. /NOLOGO. -- Best regards, Gerd === Tutorial for using regular expressions with TheBat! www.regenechsen.de --- Some people want to achieve immortality through their works or their descendants. I prefer to achieve immortality by not dying. Woody Allen. --- now playing: WDR2 :-) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes
Hi Neurowerx, @6-Sep-2003, 19:34 +0200 (18:34 UK time) Alexander [N] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: N To make it clear - I don't want v2 right now, I don't need v2 N right now. But that update policy and stuff, I beg your pardon, N just *stinks*. Most of us are winners here. Some don't feel it. shrug Nothing more I can say then, is there? -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote... PF http://www.fjelsten.dk/thebat.gif This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... Have we stopped beta testing then? Or are these changes irrelevant for testing? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1o1dSuD6BT4/R9zEQK2CACfau8RL5hrPK1IASpV0rtUOQdQi5kAoI/y GwLnWpw6e2sFfIQL0Q7dHRhR =YSTL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat will no longer launch without /nologo
Hello Gerd, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 8:19:32 PM, you wrote: GE W2K, Version 2.00: No Problem here. It still works, only that I used GE capital letters. /NOLOGO. But does it launch without /nologo which is my problem. It works fine when I use /nologo, case makes no difference to Windows. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: same old problem: disappaering folders
Good evening Jonathan, It was foretold that on 6-9-2003 @ 13:58:55 GMT-0500 (which was 20:58:55 where I live) Jonathan Angliss would mumble: snipped a bit JA The .tbi files are the mail folder indexes. Removing them won't JA rediscover the folder, but will remove all special flags on the mail JA (unless IMAP), such as deleted, replied, and any notes you may have JA attached to the emails. Yep, that i have noticed :-(. As i said, i couldn't remember the correct procedure anymore and in my ignorant bliss, just deleted the .tbi. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. Not a single one of your ancestors died young. They all copulated at least once. - A cheery thought from Richard Dawkins - British zoologist Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
setting FOLDER to addresses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, Is it possibvle to defined a To address for a folder, similar to what Becky does. This is for mailing lists Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net BBS: tcob1.thebbs.org 1800- GMT THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. Usign TheBat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/Wj7wHMnSWn2nApQRAiZ3AKDEWKbszylE65M1sp5mI8mRIa0UzgCgzfLK cmQYJ0Sr02K3sXwe1lqqEVQ= =4q8R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes
06-Sep-2003 21:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: N To make it clear - I don't want v2 right now, I don't need v2 N right now. But that update policy and stuff, I beg your pardon, N just *stinks*. Most of us are winners here. Some don't feel it. shrug Nothing more I can say then, is there? If thats the way you think about it, there's really nothing more to say. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Thom's Law of Marital Bliss: The length of the marriage is inversely proportional to the cost of the wedding. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: setting FOLDER to addresses
Hi Sean, @6-Sep-2003, 21:09 Sean Rima [SR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SR Is it possibvle to defined a To address for a folder, similar SR to what Becky does. This is for mailing lists Yes - but *don't* do it unless you *really* understand that you can send messages to that address by mistake if you (for example) accidentally click a mailto link while that folder has the focus or re-address an attempt to make a personal reply. The way is with in the infamous Folder template found in the folder properties. Add %TO=''%TO='Send here [EMAIL PROTECTED]' to the folder reply template and all messages will have the current To contents cleared and replaced with: Send here [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: setting FOLDER to addresses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 9:19:42 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Sean, MDP @6-Sep-2003, 21:09 Sean Rima [SR] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SR Is it possibvle to defined a To address for a folder, similar SR to what Becky does. This is for mailing lists MDP Yes - but *don't* do it unless you *really* understand that you can MDP send messages to that address by mistake if you (for example) MDP accidentally click a mailto link while that folder has the focus or MDP re-address an attempt to make a personal reply. MDP The way is with in the infamous Folder template found in the MDP folder properties. Add %TO=''%TO='Send here [EMAIL PROTECTED]' MDP to the folder reply template and all messages will have the current MDP To contents cleared and replaced with: MDP Send here [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I am aware of the pit falls but it is very rare that I click on a mailto link anyway :) Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net BBS: tcob1.thebbs.org 1800- GMT THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. Usign TheBat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/WkWqHMnSWn2nApQRAsJRAKCHXRkp1+fixqgaXXE5xyZr8MdQUwCfb9Wu qugI7DTVgOVgIkbgQqgjttY= =cJga -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduler - programs won't start?
Hello all, I've been playing with V2 for a couple of days on my test machine (running Win98 4.10.1998), but can't for the life of me figure out how to use the scheduler to start a program. I've followed instructions in the help file to the letter, but programs just won't start; nothing happens. Other tasks (i.e send/check mail) are performed without any problems. Maybe it is a Win98 issue? Haven't tried V2 on WinXP (yet) Any suggestions? -- Best regards, Jan-Arild Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Hello Jonathan, JA Have we stopped beta testing then? No. You can just take a little break for some rest :-) We are currently dealing organisational problems and new site issues, but a new Beta will be available really soon... JA Or are these changes irrelevant for testing? The changes to 2.00.1 (aka 2.00.6 - the build number just slipped as a result of some experiments with new numbering system and happily created some confusion :-) are in the readme.txt, by the way. I am sorry about all these quirks, but this week was really tough... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - programs won't start?
Hello Jan-Arild, JAL I've been playing with V2 for a couple of days on my test machine JAL (running Win98 4.10.1998), but can't for the life of me figure out how JAL to use the scheduler to start a program. Hmm. You are right :-( Looks like a reason to refresh the build number on the site really soon :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Hello Listers, On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 0:25:30, Stefan wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : S We are currently dealing organisational problems and new site S issues Please don't forget my message on 9/1 about site translation ;) -- Chema Berian (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Moderator, Spanish TB User Discussion List (GDUTB) More Info: http://www.gdutb.org Using SecureBat! 1.62s on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Stefan, On 06-09-2003 19:17, you [S] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: S This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... Affirmative. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expand all threads command?
Hello Steve, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:13:12 PM, you wrote: SMK Try CtrlNumPad * for all threads, CtrlNumPad + for the selected SMK thread, and CtrlNumPad - to close. But for expanding only threads with unread messages, is there any key combination? -- Cheers, Bere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: same old problem: disappaering folders
Jonathan- Saturday, September 6, 2003, 11:58:55 AM, you wrote: JA The .tbi files are the mail folder indexes. Removing them won't JA rediscover the folder, but will remove all special flags on the mail JA (unless IMAP), such as deleted, replied, and any notes you may have JA attached to the emails. Close, but no cigar. The .tbb file also contains copies of the message flags. Removing the .tbi file and then refocussing on the account will allow TB to sort things out, though, and reset the flags to a best guess. To see things otherwise, delete all the files from a message folder, then move the focus to another folder. Delete the .tbi file in that folder and then set the .tbb file to read-only. When you move the focus back to that folder you'll see a momentary flash as TB recreates the index file and finds the deleted messages Then the number goes back to zero when TB discovers it can't reset the flags in the .tbb file. Did I mention backing things up before attempting anything like this? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving between messages
Hello Günter, On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 02:42:28 +1000 GMT (06/09/2003, 23:42 +0700 GMT), Günter Minnerup wrote: GM Useful, thanks! And now for the reverse scrolling... Is alt+UpArrow what you mean? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. MEOW. . . SPLAT . . . RUFF . . . SPLAT . . . (Raining cats dogs) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre grabs full screen
Hello John, On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 03:54:26 +1000 GMT (07/09/2003, 00:54 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: JP In V 2.0, my Connection Centre grabs full screen. JP I have tried clicking all the top rhs icons, and apart from minimising JP the Connection Centre to the tool bar, nothing much else happens. The the resize/maximise button (the middle botton betweeen minimise and close) works here as expected. Maybe the resized size is (almost) full screen on your machine? Have you tried resizing with the mouse when the middle button shows a square (which means it will maximise when you click on it, as now the window is not full screeen)? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen. (Winston Churchill) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving between messages
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 9:52:57 AM, Thomas F wrote: Is alt+UpArrow what you mean? Yesss! :-) Just have to get into the habit of using ALT+down Arrow now to scroll down. I hate having to change key shortcuts for related operations... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
Hello Jonathan, On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:28:47 -0500 GMT (07/09/2003, 02:28 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... JA Have we stopped beta testing then? Or are these changes irrelevant for JA testing? What changes? Have you seen a changelog? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It's paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn't appeal to anyone. -- Andy Rooney Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Moving between messages
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 3:21:44 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Actually Ctrl+Arrows are used for moving to next/previous unread message. Alt+Arrows are used for moving to next/previous viewed message. This is how they are described in the pop-up menus :-) Ctrl+Alt+Arrows should be used to move to unread messages when the preview pane is selected. This is because Ctrl+Arrows are used for moving between words... OK, fair enough. That seems logical but in daily use isn't: I don't normally move back to previous unread but to previous viewed. Similarly, I rarely move forward to next viewed but to next unread. So it would be much more intuitive to have Alt+Right for next unread and Alt+Left for previous viewed. Ideally, to reduce finger strain, I'd like a really lazy method for reviewing messages (I get a lot every day), like: ArrowDown moves to next unread message, and if it's larger than the preview pane, PgDown scrolls downwards, PgUp upwards, with automatic change of focus. ArrowUp moves back to last viewed. Or an option to reconfigure keyboard shortcuts to any way the user likes it: I personally hate all those CTRL/ALT finger gymnastics for something as simple as moving through new messages. Hope this makes sense. Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat will no longer launch without /nologo
Saturday, September 6, 2003, Jamie Dainton wrote: If I try to launch TB! without the /nologo option the splash screen appears and disappears but no TB! No problems here. W2k, TBv2 standard-install, no plugins and a whole bunch of other proggies running. -- Urban Rhubarb: A kind of celery gone bloodshot. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On this web page: https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html?productid=519829languageid=currencies=EUR it shows: The Bat! Upgrade from 1.xx (Private) $17.50 until 10/31/2003. What will be the The Bat v2 Upgrade price after 10/31/2003? -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changed from 2.00 through 2.00.06?
On this web page: The Bat! Downloads http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php shows an updated release for The Bat! v2, version 2.00.6. The old RIT Labs web site had a link to the change log and now there is no link to a change log. What are the differences between 2.00 through 2.00.06? -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to login anonymous to ftp.ritlabs.com
Did RIT Labs recently change the ftp.ritlabs.com login where it no longer accepts anonymous logins? I have been downloading The Bat! updates and betas including the associated text files through the FTP web site to keep up on all the changes. -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat will no longer launch without /nologo
Hello Urban, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 10:19:27 PM, you wrote: If I try to launch TB! without the /nologo option the splash screen appears and disappears but no TB! U No problems here. W2k, TBv2 standard-install, no plugins and a whole U bunch of other proggies running. I'm now convinced it's a conflict with bayesit04.dm -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Will AVG Antivirus 7.x work with The Bat! 1.62r?
Will AVG Antivirus 7.x work with The Bat! 1.62r? -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: same old problem: disappaering folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Mark Wieder wrote... JA The .tbi files are the mail folder indexes. Removing them won't JA rediscover the folder, but will remove all special flags on the JA mail (unless IMAP), such as deleted, replied, and any notes you JA may have attached to the emails. Close, but no cigar. I don't smoke ;) The .tbb file also contains copies of the message flags. Removing the .tbi file and then refocussing on the account will allow TB to sort things out, though, and reset the flags to a best guess. Interesting... never had that happen to me before. In fact, last time I did it, I had to manually go through and delete over 300 emails (was a busy email day, and I'd not compressed the folder), and I noticed a bunch were not marked as replied or read... so unless they changed something in the 1.63 betas, I'm not too sure. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) All that glitters has a high refractive index. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1qI8CuD6BT4/R9zEQKLSACg53K4W1JReeqTWUfkfWUocpOsLpsAn1V5 OTmoMuhwSUBrCBmbnb64yplT =13Mz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Thomas F wrote... This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today... JA Have we stopped beta testing then? Or are these changes JA irrelevant for testing? What changes? Have you seen a changelog? I'd assume there were changes, as they released 2.00.1 (2.00.6 in the about box), so it must have spurred something to increase the version number. However somebody had pasted the changes since the 2.00 release to the list earlier. Apparently the changes are still shipped in the install program. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Love me tender / love me sweet / push me out at 12,000 ft -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1qKliuD6BT4/R9zEQL59gCgge51F3RK1EIdMOfQNWcgBF6e2VAAn1E4 XRhhURFHZPBpSv3nXFAe9A0f =7Xw8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to login anonymous to ftp.ritlabs.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Mark wrote... Did RIT Labs recently change the ftp.ritlabs.com login where it no longer accepts anonymous logins? Yes, they changed it while doing their site updates. Stefan says it should be back up and running again shortly after they've dealt with some other minor issues first. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) My other vehicle is a Galaxy Class Starship -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP1qLNiuD6BT4/R9zEQK7cgCg0Tgi7v7t1stc3RPj5Qyoj9NojjYAn2Gr XXR9Pbj0nbMpvHZFdjb2U33S =Ey2y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to login anonymous to ftp.ritlabs.com
On Saturday, September 6, 2003, 9:34:34 PM, you wrote: On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Mark wrote... Did RIT Labs recently change the ftp.ritlabs.com login where it no longer accepts anonymous logins? Yes, they changed it while doing their site updates. Stefan says it should be back up and running again shortly after they've dealt with some other minor issues first. Thanks for the information. :) -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand all threads command?
Saturday, September 6, 2003, 11:49:48 PM, Bere wrote: B But for expanding only threads with unread messages, is there any B key combination? You can map a shortcut key yourself that will show unread messages only - I just did this myself. Go to the View menu » Edit Shortcuts » then look for the Message section and expand it - scroll down it till you get to the View section and expand that then scroll down it till you reach Display - select Only Unread Messages and double click on it - this will bring up a little box for you to create a new hotkey in. (I used the combo Ctrl+# as this wasn't used anywhere else so there were no conflicts). Type in the key combo to use and click OK and then OK again to close the Edit Shortcuts box. Now you can toggle between Unread messages using your key combo (e.g. Ctrl+#) and all messages (Ctrl+=) - and if you expand all threads using Ctrl+(numpad*) you should get the effect you're after. Hope this helps :-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB2 - Turning off PGP/MIME
I'd like to be able to clear sign with GnupG (Nullify v1.2.2-nr2) as before, the way I did with 1.6x. Has anyone figured out a way to prevent TB2 from attaching the signature as a binary attachment? It works well, but if I send to a Netscape mail user, Netscape strips away the attachment completely. With Outlook, it comes in as a *.att attachment. I'm working around the problem, for now, by adding %NOUSEPGP and %NOUSESMIME in my template, and then selecting Privacy / OpenPGP / Sign Entire Text to clear sign the message before hitting send. Another problem I've had is with taglines (cookies). My template has always read %COOKIE=c:\blah\The Bat!\Cookie.txt Now, when I use OPenPGP sign, TB2 seems to be adding an extra . to the beginning of the tagline, which obviously makes my sig verify as Bad. My eternal gratitude to Ultraedit for finding this subtle difference for me. Interestingly, the message in my Sent folder is good, with only three ..., but the message that comes into the Inbox has four . This could very well be a PGP / Gnupg issue rather than a TB2 problem, but it did work perfectly before I upgraded to TB2. I have dropped the ... from my template and it's working now, but I thought I'd mention it here, as it's quite common to use ... at the start of a tagline, and this might save others some head scratching. -- Best regards, Keith Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB2 - Turning off PGP/MIME
Hi Kittyboy, @6-Sep-2003, 22:46 -0400 (03:46 UK time) Kittyboy [K] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: K I'd like to be able to clear sign with GnupG (Nullify v1.2.2-nr2) K as before, the way I did with 1.6x. Has anyone figured out a way K to prevent TB2 from attaching the signature as a binary K attachment? Use %NOPGPMIME in your template. K Another problem I've had is with taglines (cookies). My template K has always read K %COOKIE=c:\blah\The Bat!\Cookie.txt K Now, when I use OPenPGP sign, TB2 seems to be adding an extra . ... snip K the message that comes into the Inbox has four . This could K very well be a PGP / Gnupg issue rather than a TB2 problem, but K it did work perfectly before I upgraded to TB2. Nope. It's a routing server problem. The message in your sent folder is the one that left your system. The one received is what happened to it *after* it left. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB2 - Turning off PGP/MIME
Thanks Marck, MDP Use %NOPGPMIME in your template. That worked fine. I hoped there would be something like that, and poked around in the help for it. Anyway, thanks again. K very well be a PGP / Gnupg issue rather than a TB2 problem, but K it did work perfectly before I upgraded to TB2. MDP Nope. It's a routing server problem. The message in your sent folder MDP is the one that left your system. The one received is what happened MDP to it *after* it left. Makes sense. I'll try to experiment a bit and see if I can find out what's going on. -- Best regards, Keith Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: same old problem: disappaering folders
Jonathan- Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:24:54 PM, you wrote: Close, but no cigar. JA I don't smoke ;) Oh. Right. A round of no cigars for everyone, then. JA Interesting... never had that happen to me before. In fact, last time JA I did it, I had to manually go through and delete over 300 emails (was JA a busy email day, and I'd not compressed the folder), and I noticed a JA bunch were not marked as replied or read... so unless they changed JA something in the 1.63 betas, I'm not too sure. The file format's been stable at least as far back as 1.53 - I don't feel like checking any farther back than that. Best guess as far as TB is concerned with the flags seems to be if we can mark this as undeleted or unhandled, then do so. I think the key to avoid having to delete all those messages manually might have been to write-protect the .tbb file, then let TB rebuild the index, then write-enable the file again. Haven't tried this in a real-world situation, so YMMV. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
