Re: disappearing messages (!)
ken green wrote: So I know that I am not *completely* insane. Actually, that may have been the problem after all. I think this issue has been resolved, and quite frankly, I'm too embarrassed to explain what happened. I'm only posting now because I don't want some very helpful list member spending energy trying to figure out my problem and help my addled brain. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: disappearing messages (!)
Hello ken, Anyone else ever experience anything like this? Yesterday I moved manually (ctrl-v) a message to a certain person from the sent folder to a folder that is only for messages from and to that person. It disappeared. Like you I can nowhere find it. And in the folders list is indicated that there are 9 messages in that folder - but only 5 appear in the message list. All my messages to that person are no more there. No filter (that shows only messages to that person) seems to be active. I will check with a backup asap. -- TIA, Regards Hanspeter The Bat! v1.61 unter Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange dialog
Friday, December 19, 2003, 12:11:13 AM, Tony wrote: TB Quite often happens if you use Bayesit and TB can't find the plugin. Aha! I do indeed have Bayesit installed. I now see that the dictionary is in my My Documents folder, which she doesn't have access to. I think I can take it from here. Thanks! -- Allister Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: disappearing messages (!)
Ken Green, [KG] wrote:
KG Later, I went looking for the message that was sent. It was nowhere
KG to be found. Not in the appropriate folder dictated by the Read
KG filter, not in my Inbox, not in any Trash folders.
KG I performed a search on all accounts matching the sender's name with a
KG date after today (only today's messages) and still did not find this
KG message. I know that the message did, in fact exist at some point
KG because my reply to it is in my Sent folder, and the quoted text shows
KG the message I am looking for. So I know that I am not *completely*
KG insane.
Just a tip.
If you wish to find a message you replied to and you have found the
reply, just select the reply and hit CTRL-Backspace. TB! will search for
the original message until it's found. The converse also works, in that
if you have the original message and wish to quickly find your reply,
then select the original message and hit CTRL-Backspace.
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Re[2]: disappearing messages (!)
Hi, On Friday at 2:51 AM you wrote: AM If you wish to find a message you replied to and you have found the AM reply, just select the reply and hit CTRL-Backspace. That is soo cool! I never knew about this feature. Thanks for sharing that -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: disappearing messages (!)
Darrin wrote: AM If you wish to find a message you replied to and you have found AM the reply, just select the reply and hit CTRL-Backspace. D That is soo cool! I never knew about this feature. Thanks for D sharing that Sure! Anytime .. TB! has those little hidden gems here and there. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.02.8 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Despatching emails at set -- but different -- times
Hallo Batpeople, I wish to despatch several e-mails (separate instructions to a listserv for a mailing list I run) at different times over the coming days: for instance, send e-mail #1 at 15:00 hours today, e-mail #2 at 16:00 hours tomorrow and e-mail #3 at 12:00 on Wed, 24 Dec. Is this possible using The Bat? I have been testing using the Scheduler, but find it just sends all the e-mails at the same time. Any other suggestions (apart from don't be so lazy)??! Best wishes, Iain. -- Iain Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on a Windows 2000 computer Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Despatching emails at set -- but different -- times
Hi Iain, @19-Dec-2003, 14:27 Iain D. Brown said: I have been testing using the Scheduler, but find it just sends all the e-mails at the same time. Surely, if you create a Create message entry in the scheduler for each event, they should be distinct and go off one at a time. What's the problem? -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html email help?
Hi daveiw, Thursday, December 18, 2003, 12:39:26 PM, you wrote: dcn Hi all, dcn I am now using the xmas edition of v2 and would like to dcn send out some snazzy emails to my kids, but everytime I create an dcn email using html and click 'send' - nothing happens, I mean I can dcn see that the button has been clicked, but the message is not sent. dcn As you can see, text only works fine, what's going on? dcn Many thanks in advance, dcn Dave Wilson. dcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcn (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) Surely someone on this list can advise me on this please? -- Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 8:08 AM (Pacific Time) Hello Bat Users, Well, I held off as long as I could before upgrading to version 2. I used 1.62r a long time with no problems. Then I seen where I could upgrade for only $14.00 until Jan, 10th because of the Christmas specials. I just couldn't pass it up. I am really glad I did! The new folder maintenance centre is very well done. I backed 1.62r up first in case I had problems. Then I just installed 2.02.3 over the top of 1.62r, I wasn't sure you could do that but I had my back up so it didn't mater. To my surprise, everything works fine so far. Even my templates are working,and I thought I read something where they had to be changed for version 2. Anyway, I have always been very conservative when it comes to upgrading software. I don't do it just because but I can tell you that now is the time especially with the Christmas discounts. I am still in the early stages of using version 2 but have not, yet anyway, experienced any of the problems that I have seen others have on the list. I just wanted to say how pleased I am with version 2. Everyone have a Merry Christmas! -- Wayne Black Using TheBat 2.02.3 CE under Windows 98 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Opening Folder on top?
Thursday, December 18, 2003, 6:54:33 PM, you wrote: KS When I open a Folder, it always open at the point where I last READ KS a message in that folder. Some people don't like that. But when I open Outlook Express, and switch between folders, it never remembers anything. It does Not impress. KS If I select - but don't open - a message, KS and then go to a different folder, when I return to the original KS folder, it is back at the last read message, not the last selected KS message. I have never noticed this distinction. Generally if I select something, it is read. KS Is there any way to have the folder always open at the top or To have more than one default option of where to return in your message list is something I don't think any mail client has. It's like, to have a default option, it is always the behaviour it does anyway when you don't tell it anything particular. Now, The Bat! is an intelligent animal, and it remembers things. So when it helps users in this way, to return where you were last, many users are happy about that. I think that to return to the top, you can type ALT Home. KS failing that, open at the last selected message instead of the last KS read message? I never noticed the distinction. And now I tried moving to a message without setting it as Read. The Bat upon later returning to this folder returned to this exact spot where it left. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: disappearing messages (!)
Allie Martin wrote: If you wish to find a message you replied to and you have found the reply, just select the reply and hit CTRL-Backspace. TB! will search for the original message until it's found. The converse also works, in that if you have the original message and wish to quickly find your reply, then select the original message and hit CTRL-Backspace. Thanks for that tip. I was aware that I could find the reply using CTRL-Backspace. I use that feature occasionally. But I wasn't aware the converse worked as well. Good tip. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: disappearing messages (!)
AM If you wish to find a message you replied to and you have found AM the reply, just select the reply and hit CTRL-Backspace. D That [feature] is soo cool! Thanks for sharing that AM Sure! Anytime .. AM TB! has those little hidden gems here and there. Is there a TB's little gems book (or PDF)anywhere? When I ordered my version 2 CD w/ manual I was told there isn't one! -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import problem
Thursday, December 18, 2003, 1:44:09 PM, you wrote: TF === forwarded message === TF Hello Thomas, TF I dumped part of my mail in ONE box and tried importing it. TF Result a hang. I cannot remove duplicates and/ and or use filters. By this do you mean that after importing a mailbox, the mail system is compromised? Like, broken? Not in a standard mailbox format? I presume (although that might depend on your situation, and the answer) that you could just import to a different mailbox. Or add a new account, and import to it. I am not sure what kind of effect could stop you from using filters. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Despatching emails at set -- but different -- times
I have been testing using the Scheduler, but find it just sends all the e-mails at the same time. MDP if you create a Create message entry in the scheduler for MDP each event, they should be distinct and go off one at a time. I went in to look at the scheduler but every time I either open it or click anything in it I get an error dialog box that says: Failed to set calendar selected range -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Hello Wayne, Friday, December 19, 2003, 12:34:58 PM, you wrote: Even my templates are working,and I thought I read something where they had to be changed for version 2. It's not the templates per se, it's related to the template macros. There's a bit of information in TB!'s help, in regards to some syntax changes. And, apparently some macros behavior changed. But I'm not able to comment, since the only thing that I do remember is that I didn't use any of the affected macros. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior Software Developer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Despatching emails at set -- but different -- times
Hi Rich, @19-Dec-2003, 12:09 -0500 (19-Dec 17:09 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: I have been testing using the Scheduler, but find it just sends all the e-mails at the same time. MDP if you create a Create message entry in the scheduler for MDP each event, they should be distinct and go off one at a time. RG I went in to look at the scheduler but every time I either open RG it or click anything in it I get an error dialog box that says: RG Failed to set calendar selected range Yes. That's a bug. Why not use a version in which that bug was fixed? 2.01 fixed it. 2.02 is current. We're testing 2.03. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: disappearing messages (!)
rich gregory wrote: rg Is there a TB's little gems book (or PDF)anywhere? When I rg ordered my version 2 CD w/ manual I was told there isn't one! Have you tried reading the tips of the day, enabled via the help menu? I haven't, but some of those gems may very well be lurking there. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.02.8 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Wayne Black wrote: WB To my surprise, everything works fine so far. That's no surprise to me. :) I've never done a major upgrade and had problems. WB Even my templates are working,and I thought I read something where WB they had to be changed for version 2. It depends on how complex your templates are. Most templates should still work. They've offered more options with the macro syntax and have changed some things with how some of the complex recursive templates work. So, if you don't use any of those, then things should be just fine for you. WB Anyway, I have always been very conservative when it comes to WB upgrading software. I don't do it just because That's a good attitude to have. :) I try to practice it. WB I just wanted to say how pleased I am with version 2. Everyone WB have a Merry Christmas! Thanks for sharing and to you and yours, do have a Merry Christmas as well. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.02.8 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: disappearing messages (!)
Hello Allie, If you wish to find a message you replied to and you have found the reply, just select the reply and hit CTRL-Backspace. TB! will search for the original message until it's found. Great! That solved also my problem (in case you read my reply to Ken). - I just do not understand why this lost message can be opened and is obviously in the right folder but does not appear in the message list. -- TIA, Regards Hanspeter The Bat! v1.61 unter Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: disappearing messages (!)
Hello Hanspeter, On Friday, December 19, 2003, 7:46:21 PM, you wrote: Great! That solved also my problem (in case you read my reply to Ken). - I just do not understand why this lost message can be opened and is obviously in the right folder but does not appear in the message list. Do you have set an filter in your view mode? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.02 CE, Windows 2000 5.0.2195 The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life. - Muhammad Ali To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import problem
Hello Thomas, He is using The Bat! (v2.0 Beta/2) Personal. Tell Tracer to upgrade first. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Despatching emails at set -- but different -- times
RG I went in to look at the scheduler but every time I either open RG it or click anything in it I get an error dialog box that says: RG Failed to set calendar selected range MDP Yes. That's a bug. Why not use a version in which that bug was MDP fixed? 2.01 fixed it. 2.02 is current. We're testing 2.03. I did not upgrade to 2.02 (aka CE) as I read that folks had folder issues upon upgrading. (2.01 must've flown by in the dark on sonar... I missed it entirely!) -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: disappearing messages (!)
rg Is there a TB's little gems book (or PDF)anywhere? When I rg ordered my version 2 CD w/ manual I was told there isn't one! AM Have you tried reading the tips of the day, enabled via the help menu? AM I haven't, but some of those gems may very well be lurking there. I get many tips from there. I've not disabled it yet as sometimes I'll need to see a tip 40 times before I remember it! I would like to see someone create an expanded TIPs file to replace the default one so that tips are always new! -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Import problem
Hello Adam, ===8===This is a forwarded message From: Phuket [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 20, 2003, 8:01:00 AM Subject: Fwd: Re: Import problem Hello Thomas, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 12:37:43 AM, you wrote: [...] TF I dumped part of my mail in ONE box and tried importing it. TF Result a hang. I cannot remove duplicates and/ and or use filters. TF By this do you mean that after importing a mailbox, the mail system is TF compromised? Like, broken? Not in a standard mailbox format? Well it never seemed to finish when importing either the 2 mails in one box or the combined 12 in another one. Nothing seemed to be happening so in the end the bat stopped working. Couldnt filter either, same thing so there I was with 1 huge inbox... Removing duplicates didnt work either but then there werent any anyway. Next day I tried filtering again and it just worked. I didnt try to correct mail as last time I did that I lost like 1 mails. At present things seem to be back to normal except I donot really see or didnt where the duplicates where removed or where the filtering took place. Still have to add some more mail but sofar it looks like I have mail but that 3000 or so stayed unfiltered no doubt as filters on both systems arent the same. TF I presume (although that might depend on your situation, and the TF answer) that you could just import to a different mailbox. Or add a TF new account, and import to it. TF I am not sure what kind of effect could stop you from using filters. I have a feeling that if import is a LARGE file it may require a lot of ram and that maybe data has been imported but Bat doesnt tell you until it has done some cleaning up work. ===8===End of original message text=== Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
shortcut editor
When editing the shortcuts or TB, I find that a number of shortcuts are repeated multiple times. For instance, in the message-list-popup section, there are three or four instances of view next unread, view previous unread, etc. -- I'm assuming that there are different uses for them (though it's not specified) but . . . well, what's the secret? Thanks . . . -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org Education makes a people easy to lead, but difficult to drive; easy to govern but impossible to enslave. -Baron Henry Peter Brougham Bat! 2.03.10, | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: shortcut editor
Hello Allen, on Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:06:36 -0500 (2003-12-20 03:06:36 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [] wrote (at least in part): A When editing the shortcuts or TB, I find that a number of shortcuts are A repeated multiple times. For instance, in the message-list-popup A section, there are three or four instances of view next unread, view A previous unread, etc. -- I'm assuming that there are different uses for A them (though it's not specified) but . . . well, what's the secret? A screenshot would be of some use I guess. Including your actions. From your description, this somehowe sounds somewhat like what happened before in early releases of ViewModes. -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03.10 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: shortcut editor
The shorcut editor is somehow broken. There are several shorcuts that can not defined and several shortscuts that would not act like it cloud be expected. -- With best regards Lars Sölter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: shortcut editor
12/19/2003, 9:33 PM: Lars said in shortcut editor LS The shorcut editor is somehow broken. There are several LS shorcuts that can not defined and several shortscuts that would not LS act like it cloud be expected. Ah, which I suppose includes a few that I just stumbled across that won't allow 3-stroke shortcuts (2 or fewer only) . . . Thanks. Didn't want to cry out Bug! when it, in fact, was a feature :-) -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org Life is a fatal complaint, and an eminently contagious one. -Oliver Wendell Holmes Bat! 2.03.10, | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html email help?
daveiw- Friday, December 19, 2003, 8:26:17 AM, you wrote: dcn Surely someone on this list can advise me on this please? Why not just create a web page and send them the url? BTW - your sig delimiter doesn't seem to be working... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
