Re: Problems: I am not getting any messages from TBUDL and TBBETA

2004-09-15 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Monday, September 13, 2004, 22:54, Zonnet wrote:
 Maybe an ISP spam filter, free of charge as extra service :-)

I suspect this. Anybody else from Germany having problems with GMX?

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Re: Problems: I am not getting any messages from TBUDL and TBBETA

2004-09-15 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 21:44, Denis wrote:
 NFS is still very buggy, and it seems that if messages incorrectly
 trigger several filters, they can just be left in Windows temp
 directory instead of being moved to their proper place.

I am not using TB3.

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Re: Sudden Maintenance pop-up ... 3 months of mail lost!?

2004-09-15 Thread Cory
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:41:19 +0100, Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Check to see is there's a scheduled task (Alt+F11) that runs the Folder
Maintenance Centre.

Lynn, Martin,

Thanks for your reply. This case seems to have part of both, and I'm
unsure of what exactly has happened here - I'm not the user of this
installatiion myself, and sure enough never had likewise problems
before.

It seems to have been a corrupted TBB file, nothing else  I found that
could influence the behaviour but a few large (10+ MB) atachments.
These have been removed from the msgs now, in hpe that will cure (for
some time anyway)...


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Re: upgrading

2004-09-15 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2004-Sep-14 1:37:31 PM
 upgrading
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2. For similar reasons I have not yet installed Microsoft's SP2. (I
 once installed SP1, only to uninstall it after it slowed my pc down
 to a crawl.) However, is SP2 compatible with The Bat ver. 1.62r or,
 should I upgrade to ver. 3.0 if I intend to install SP2?

 I have actually noticed a speed increase, especially when working with
 network file systems, with SP2. And, yes, The Bat! 2 and 3 work with
 SP2.

An insteresting (I hope) addition for XP users, and the quality of SP2,
by Bruce Schneier. http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0406.html


Microsoft and SP2
*

The security of your computer and your network depends on two things:
what you do to secure your computer and network, and what everyone else
does to secure their computers and networks. It's not enough for you to
maintain a secure network. If everybody else doesn't maintain their
security, we're all more vulnerable to attack. When there are lots of
insecure computers connected to the Internet, worms spread faster and
more extensively, distributed denial-of-service attacks are easier to
launch, and spammers have more platforms from which to send e-mail. The
more insecure the average computer on the Internet is, the more insecure
your computer is.

It's like malaria: everyone is safer when we all work together to drain
the swamps and increase the level of hygiene in our community.

This is the backdrop from which to understand Microsoft's Windows XP
security upgrade: Service Pack 2. SP2 is a major security upgrade. It
includes features like Windows Firewall, an enhanced personal firewall
that is turned on by default, and a better automatic patching feature.
It includes a bunch of small security improvements. It makes Windows XP
more secure.

In early May, stories were written saying that Microsoft would make this
upgrade available to all XP users, both licensed and unlicensed. To me,
this was a very smart move on Microsoft's part. Think about all the ways
it benefits Microsoft. One, its licensed users are more secure. Two, its
licensed users are happier. Three, worms that attack Microsoft products
are less virulent, which means Microsoft doesn't look as bad in the
press. Microsoft wins, Microsoft's customers win, the Internet wins.
It's the kind of marketing move that businessmen write best-selling
books about.

Sadly, the press was wrong. Soon after, Microsoft said the initial
comments were wrong, and that SP2 would not run on pirated copies of XP.
Those copies would not be upgradeable, and would remain insecure. Only
legal copies of the software could be secured.

This is the wrong decision, for all the same reasons that the opposite
decision was the correct one.

Of course, Microsoft is within its rights to deny service to those who
have pirated its products. It makes sense for them to make sure
performance or feature upgrades do not run on pirated software. They
want to deny people who haven't paid for Microsoft products the benefit
of them, and entice them to become licensed users. But security upgrades
are different. Microsoft is harming its licensed users by denying
security to its unlicensed users.

This decision, more than anything else Microsoft has said or done in the
last few years, proves to me that security is not the first priority of
the company. Here was a chance to do the right thing: to put security
ahead of profits. Here was a chance to look good in the press, and
improve security for all their users worldwide. Microsoft claims that
improving security is the most important thing, but their actions prove
otherwise.

SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me to
remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more secure.
And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.


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Re[2]: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla

2004-09-15 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Bob,
Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 11:33:29 PM, you wrote:

BM Thank you.  This worked fine and I now have The Bat! back as my
BM default e-mail client without needing to uninstall Mozilla Mail.

BM For anyone who needs to do it in Mozilla just type about:config in a
BM browser window.  This opens the utility that edits prefs.js in your
BM user profile. Scroll down the preference names until you come to the
BM network.protocol-handler section, right click and select New then
BM Boolean, and insert
BM network.protocol-handler.external.mailto and
BM true in the appropriate boxes and you are done.  I then closed and
BM reopened Mozilla to check that it was saved. As long as The Bat! is
BM set as your default e-mail client it should now pop-up whenever you
BM click on a mailto: link on a web page.

Has someone passed this info on to the new Wiki?

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Mod: Top posting (was: Problem about the SSL authentication)

2004-09-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mavers,

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:51:20 +0800GMT (15-9-2004, 7:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

M What do you mean stunnel solution? 

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Re: Reconstructing Munged E-mail Addresses

2004-09-15 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Joseph N. writes:

 How, if at all, can I reconstruct the munged e-mail addresses that 
 appear here through the Gmane NNTP gateway?

You should go to the following URL:

http://gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ¯
... where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the encrypted
Gmane address. It leads you to an obfuscated image of the wanted
e-mail address.

Carsten
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Test - Please ignore...

2004-09-15 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Tracing down mail problems...

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drag/drop capabilities

2004-09-15 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Battyfolk,

Has there been any talk of giving TB! drag/drop capabilities so user
is able to d/d email to another program?

Thank you.

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Re: IMAP - Triggering the filter.

2004-09-15 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Chris,

On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 21:43 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW]
wrote;

CW Is it me, or do messages that require filtering from the Inbox to
CW another folder require you to leave the Inbox and return before it'll
CW trigger the filter?

Only me then? :-(

IMAP seems to work reasonably well, but when it comes to filtering, it
turns into a major show stopper.
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Re[2]: IMAP - Triggering the filter.

2004-09-15 Thread JakeLM
 [ Wednesday, September 15, 2004 at 23.22.54 (GMT -120min)]
Chris,
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, at 22:05:11 [GMT+0100] (which was 15/09/2004, at
23.05 where I live ) you wrote:


C Only me then? :-(

C IMAP seems to work reasonably well, but when it comes to filtering, it
C turns into a major show stopper.

I have the same sad problem !
I have to work with IMAP and filtering is obviously needed.
Nobody knows if some particular setting in the imap account can help
to work better ?

Thanks ^_^



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Re[2]: Sudden Maintenance pop-up ... 3 months of mail lost!?

2004-09-15 Thread Lynn

Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 5:30:19 AM, you wrote:

C It seems to have been a corrupted TBB file, nothing else
C I found that
C could influence the behaviour but a few large (10+ MB)
C atachments.
C These have been removed from the msgs now, in hpe that
C will cure (for
C some time anyway)...

Let us know, please if that helps .. though I doubt it
will help me, as there are no attachments involved in the
misbehaving folders I have.

A new twist: when I started a new message yesterday in the
account which had been working perfectly, it came up with
the correct sig file, then when I put a recipient addy in
the 'to' field, it suddenly couldn't find the old files
that have been plaguing the other accounts!

It's a gremlin :-(

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Re: Charset for received mail

2004-09-15 Thread Dan Grunberg
Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:45:31 +0200 (2:45 PM EDT here) Peter Fjelsten wrote:

 For issues like this www.windowspowerpro.com is a good bet - it does
 at host of other stuff, too.

The link to PowerPro is:

http://www.onlythebestfreeware.com/program.asp?program_id=143


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Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla

2004-09-15 Thread Bob Morris
G'day Stuart,

Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 10:58:38 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Bob,
 Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 11:33:29 PM, you wrote:

 [snipped]

 Has someone passed this info on to the new Wiki?

I'm sorry but I won't volunteer to do this - I am still having major
problems accessing the Wiki site, but if anyone else wants to submit
it please feel free to do so.

Maybe there is another magic trick to solve my access problems
:GRIN: , Leif couldn't reproduce what is happening to me.


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Allow sound only within time interval doesn't stick

2004-09-15 Thread Robin Anson
Batlovers

Can anyone suggest why the interval during which sound is played for
incoming mail (under Properties-Sound) no longer sticks?

It used to work. I had it set to only play sounds between 07:00 and 21:30
so that it would stay quiet at night. However I noticed the other day
that it was making incoming mail noises when it should have been silent.

I don't know when this started, or what I might have done to trigger it,
but if I set an allowable time period, then close and open TB!, it has
reverted back to 00:00-24:00.

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Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla

2004-09-15 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Bob,

Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 6:31:07 PM, you wrote:

B G'day Stuart,

B Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 10:58:38 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Bob,
 Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 11:33:29 PM, you wrote:

B  [snipped]

 Has someone passed this info on to the new Wiki?

B I'm sorry but I won't volunteer to do this - I am still having major
B problems accessing the Wiki site, but if anyone else wants to submit
B it please feel free to do so.

B Maybe there is another magic trick to solve my access problems
B :GRIN: , Leif couldn't reproduce what is happening to me.





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Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla

2004-09-15 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Bob,

Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 6:31:07 PM, you wrote:
B I'm sorry but I won't volunteer to do this - I am still having
B major problems accessing the Wiki site, but if anyone else wants to
B submit it please feel free to do so.

B Maybe there is another magic trick to solve my access problems
B :GRIN: , Leif couldn't reproduce what is happening to me.

What happens when you use IE?



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